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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 22 2014 04:20 GMT
#2281
I can't tell if I'm looking forward to Ver's analysis or not.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 22 2014 05:06 GMT
#2282
I played bad and I should feel bad.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 22 2014 06:44 GMT
#2283
On May 22 2014 13:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't tell if I'm looking forward to Ver's analysis or not.

http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 22 2014 06:44 GMT
#2284
i'm afraid my best play was to get modkilled
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
May 22 2014 07:05 GMT
#2285
Setup Notes:


Town Roles:
3x Martyr
4x Day Vigilante
1x Pardoner
1x America (Dud)
1x Parity Cop

Mafia Roles:
3x Day Vigilante
1x Normal Vigilante
1x Martyr
1x Traitor//Recruiting Mason

Overall, I felt the setup was pretty balanced. Though it was unfortunate for mafia that a lot of potential mislynch targets ended up martyring for confirmed townies. Mafia had several opportunities to win this game early, but squandered those opportunities due to a mixture of inattentiveness and inactivity. I'll post more about that in my next post.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
May 22 2014 07:26 GMT
#2286
General Gameplay Thoughts:


Overall:

This game played quite a bit like a "stereotypical" newbie game: town was inactive/disorganized early on and did not get much done. Mafia for the most part skirted around and avoided suspicion by lurking in the background, while town shot and lynched each other.

However Marv replacing in on Day 6 gave town a much needed burst in activity. Town pretty quickly got their shit together, and Mafia never really had the activity to keep up.

Mafia Missed Victories:

Pretty simply, this game was a guaranteed win for Mafia if both Oats and Gumshoe had used their Dayvig KP. Instead, they got too greedy/passive with it, and ended up being unable to fire with votes piled on them.

Also, mafia missed a guaranteed win:
On May 13 2014 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Vote Count:


Ace (6) - Alakaslam, marvellosity, justanothertownie, gumshoe, VisceraEyes, WaveofShadow
tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, Palmar
gumshoe (0) -
vayneauthority (0) -
Marvellosity (0) -

Not Voting (2) - Ace, tehpoofter

Day ends in . There are 10 players alive, and it takes 6 to lynch.


On Day 6, this was the votecount that got Ace lynched. Had gumshoe unvoted/shot someone at the last minute on Day 6, mafia would have mathematically won the game.

Day Vigilantes:

I felt that no many town players really understood this game how to use Day Vigilante KP effectively. The no-flip mechanic was designed to make it less of a scum-removal tool and more of a lurker-removal tool. Instead, Alakaslam ended up making an incredibly emotional shot (ironically shooting Yamato, another Day Vigilante). JAT's shot on Caller was OK, but Ace/Gumshoe were screaming to get shot for days due to their inactivity and inability to establish their townieness.

On the mafia side, Tehpoofter managed to get away with a shot on Koshi (which was a good result), but people should have realized that it is an incorrect play from a town perspective to shoot a scum-read. The no-flip mechanic makes it extremely undesirable to shoot your scumreads if lynching them can provide valuable information to the thread.

Player Shoutouts:

Blazinghand for playing a fairly solid Traitor game. He had to guess 3 players to make it into the mafia QT, and ended up guessing correctly on the first night (gumshoe, Ace, Oatsmaster). A parity cop check by Cephiro ultimately gave him an early death, but I think overall he played well, and by far the best of the mafia-aligned players.

WaveofShadow // justanothertownie // Marvellosity for leading town into back-to-back-to-back scum lynches in MYLO. This game would have been a trainwreck for town had you three not stepped up to the plate in the late-game.

Austinmcc for leading the first mafia lynch, and an enjoyable sequence of drunkposting.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 07:47:43
May 22 2014 07:27 GMT
#2287
I'll most a more complete mafia-analysis later. Ver will take care of the town-half of things.

[reserved for analysis]
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 07:47:24
May 22 2014 07:45 GMT
#2288
Player Warnings/Punishments:


Warning to Gumshoe for missing the first 48 hours of the game, and barely skirting around the activity requirements on several cycles. He made one post on Days 4 and 5 with barely any time left in the day (30 minutes and 2 minutes) respectively, and played the first half of the game as if he was only trying to avoid being modkilled. It was an unacceptable level of activity, regardless of alignment.

Otherwise, I didn't feel there was anything else in the game worth a warning or ban. Feel free to post of PM me if you feel I missed something.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2014 07:59 GMT
#2289
thx other townies.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2014 08:19 GMT
#2290
gg wp town

unusual that all the mafia are who they are "supposed" to be.

game seemed kinda mafia favoured. 6 mafia lynches and 2 mislynches and mafia should still have won the game if they'd used their bullets. feels a bit icky.

prplhz you played great. Didn't want to use it as an argument in the game, but I checked your filter before I asked to replace you, because I wanted to know I was replacing for a townie, and I was pretty damn sure.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2014 08:22 GMT
#2291
#rekt
Computer says mafia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 22 2014 09:04 GMT
#2292
On May 22 2014 16:26 Hapahauli wrote:


On Day 6, this was the votecount that got Ace lynched. Had gumshoe unvoted/shot someone at the last minute on Day 6, mafia would have mathematically won the game.




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Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2014 09:56 GMT
#2293
On May 22 2014 17:19 marvellosity wrote:
gg wp town

unusual that all the mafia are who they are "supposed" to be.

game seemed kinda mafia favoured. 6 mafia lynches and 2 mislynches and mafia should still have won the game if they'd used their bullets. feels a bit icky.

prplhz you played great. Didn't want to use it as an argument in the game, but I checked your filter before I asked to replace you, because I wanted to know I was replacing for a townie, and I was pretty damn sure.



On May 12 2014 17:49 Palmar wrote:
Also I thought prplhz was town, so you get the benefit of replacing in for a very good player.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#2294
also why the fuck does wos get credit for townie and I don't?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#2295
I mad now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2014 10:00 GMT
#2296
mafia QT pls?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#2297
On May 22 2014 16:26 Hapahauli wrote:
On the mafia side, Tehpoofter managed to get away with a shot on Koshi (which was a good result), but people should have realized that it is an incorrect play from a town perspective to shoot a scum-read. The no-flip mechanic makes it extremely undesirable to shoot your scumreads if lynching them can provide valuable information to the thread.


people immediately realized it made him mafia. We just had so many mafia to lynch.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 10:08:05
May 22 2014 10:06 GMT
#2298
I'm so glad I wasn't made into a fool by defending you repeatedly, Plam.

edit: from a personal perspective, i'm also glad that the only non-mafia i had my vote on all game (VE) is also the only person i never had my vote on at the end of a cycle. it's so hard having to accept you're probably wrong
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 22 2014 10:10 GMT
#2299
On May 22 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
I'm so glad I wasn't made into a fool by defending you repeatedly, Plam.

edit: from a personal perspective, i'm also glad that the only non-mafia i had my vote on all game (VE) is also the only person i never had my vote on at the end of a cycle. it's so hard having to accept you're probably wrong

Just say it, you never really thought I was scum. You were just trying to rustle my jimmies weren't you?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2014 10:12 GMT
#2300
On May 22 2014 19:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
I'm so glad I wasn't made into a fool by defending you repeatedly, Plam.

edit: from a personal perspective, i'm also glad that the only non-mafia i had my vote on all game (VE) is also the only person i never had my vote on at the end of a cycle. it's so hard having to accept you're probably wrong

Just say it, you never really thought I was scum. You were just trying to rustle my jimmies weren't you?

no, i did. i thought everything you did and pushed was scummy :p

(un)fortunately all your responses every time i was after you were townie
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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