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 04:00 GMT (+00:00) In about 7 hours 30 mins right? | ||
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##Vote Caller I am voting Caller because what Caller has done so far points at him being scum. He has fired a pretty much random nuke 10 posts into the game at someone who didn't post yet and you could not reasonably expect to have posted yet. It's a completely random nuke. We all agree that Caller is sometimes a little off but we also agree that he's a smart guy. And smart guys don't do this if they are town because there is absolutely nothing to be gained from it. I think that Caller is scum who thought "Fuck it, I'll nuke somebody and hide behind my crazy reputation" because that's much more likely than Caller being town and thinking "Fuck it". It seems like everybody is second guessing themselves on the Caller issue. @VisceraEyes I'd like you to explain to me why voting Palmar will prevent him from "shooting"? If he has a night shot then he will be dead by the time he can shoot anyway, if he has a day power then he can use it before getting lynched. I would also like for you to tell me why you have a town read on Caller. @BlazingHand @Oatsmaster Please explain why you think Caller is town. | ||
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On April 15 2014 04:45 Ver wrote: There is a Traitor I think that for now we should assume that the nuke is real. If it is fake then I think someone (Caller) is going to tell us at some point (along with an explanation of why he thought firing it was a good idea, something I'd like him to provide anyway). @Ace What do you think of this nuke thing? On April 26 2014 20:40 Ace wrote: You guys believing Caller's nuke is real? :/ This post makes it look like you don't think it's real but why do you think that? What do you think we should do about it right now? Also, I'm a little scared and a lot curious what Palmar thinks he can do in ~20 posts that will ruin the game. | ||
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On April 26 2014 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote: No, trading 1 for 1 is dumb and stupid for scum either way. Firstly, Caller knows that this shit is totally not helpful for scum especially with no flips. Its way better to claim nuke and say its for a double lynch then nuke and nobody knows whether that dude was scum or not but caller gets cred. Thats just 1 example. Also, it doesnt even take Palmar out of the game and since Palmar's self-professed day 1 is his best, its arguably a waste of a nuke when palmar leaves his super sick list of scum. Caller had no idea what/how palmar would react to this. Geript not seeing this and masking this lynch as a policy lynch is really bad, especially with the dude with the most votes not being able to shoot so thats a totally better policy vote/lynch than caller who has already shot. Its a 'townie' reaction but its not actually a townie reaction, lynch that shit. I just think you are looking at this wrong. No matter if you're town or scum, firing a nuke 5 posts into the game is a very theatrical thing to do. You absolutely know that you're firing a nuke for no reason. And the bottom line really is that townies don't do this. I've played with Caller before and he didn't do exceedingly dumb shit then and I have no reason to believe he'd suddenly start doing it this game. One thing is to propose a dumb plan or come up with a dumb read, townies do that all the time and disagree on whether it's actually dumb or not. Another thing is shooting someone a couple posts into the game, everybody know that's a dumb thing to do. There aren't multiple points of view here, I know it's a dumb thing, you know it's a dumb thing, Caller knows it is a dumb thing. Caller knows it's a dumb anti townie thing and he's doing anyway and that's really all there is to it: people who know something is anti town and yet proceed to do it are likely scum, it's that simple. | ||
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So you're admitting that what you did was exceedingly dumb? My out for you was pretty much that you explained why what you did was town motivated but instead you're going with the "Look at me, I'm crazy Caller doing crazy stuff! Don't lynch me when I nuke random people for no reason, I'm just that crazy!"-defense and as I already said, I don't buy that. You didn't play in that game, you hosted that game. No idea where you're going with this but it seems that you're not giving two fucks about this game, more scum points for you. | ||
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You don't join a game thinking "I'll fuck this up good". You just don't do that. Even if you're a lunatic, Chezinu or Alakaslam, you join thinking "I'll catch some scum, I'll do good, I'll be a good townie" but that's not what he's doing. I get the "too dumb to be scum" argument but it doesn't apply here. That argument applies when people do stuff like having a dumb scum reads. For example "he's scum for posting a smiley" or something like that, and it's not really "too dumb to be scum" it's "too paranoid not to be town". This is too dumb to be town because no one would ever do this as town, ever. And the "1for1 2dumb4scum" argument is not good, the reason it is not good is because of how much we're arguing about it now. It's simply not a 1 for 1 if you can get away with it and you can evidently get away with it with how much we disagree on it. VisceraEyes' argument that a scum Caller would shoot Foolishness/Ace is okay. I like it. I don't buy it though, Caller could easily have thought "Well, I wouldn't get away with nuking one of those guys!". You cannot reason about the motivation of a scum. Caller is scum for doing something no townie would ever do. This isn't a "that read is a little off, I don't think townies would do that", this is a guy shooting another guy 5 posts into the game. Caller even admitted that it was exceedingly dumb and he hinted that he thinks his meta permits him to get away with it. Townies don't do things they think is dumb just because they believe their meta allows them to do it without getting lynched. Completely scum. | ||
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also, since you can't figure out the answer to my question, it's "town". | ||
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On April 27 2014 18:39 Ace wrote: snb wagon o.0 Who would you lynch over strongandbig? (and why) ##Unvote | ||
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His filter is 1 post long and it's a boring list post that doesn't show real interest in thinking about and solving the game. I don't like the case on strongandbig. I simply think he's trying and that's a rare quality in this town. | ||
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Just some questions for Foolishness: If what Caller did was super scummy to everyone then why didn't people want to lynch him? He only got 4 votes, including sandroba and Ace who usually have quite a bit of town pull. Hence it needed more explanation, I responded to people using arguments like "too dumb to be scum" and explained why they didn't apply. If what caller did was super scummy to everyone then why didn't people want to lynch him? Why is Cephiro definitely not getting lynched today? And why do you think I should know this? Your meta on Cephiro is also wrong, check out Cell Mini Mafia for Cephiro's latest game and his latest game as scum. I have no idea why you think that a lurking Cephiro should just be left alone for an arbitrary amount of time and I have no idea why you think I should know this. Why is Cephiro definitely not getting lynched today? And why do you think I should know this? You last point about why I switched from Caller to Cephiro is also bad. Something happened between me wanting to lynch Caller and me wanting to lynch Cephiro. SOMETHING HAPPENED. The nuke landed and was a dud. There. I wanted to lynch him for killing someone and then it turned out he didn't kill someone. So I changed my opinion on Caller, decided I didn't like the current wagons in the game and decided that I'd like to lynch Cephiro. | ||
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