EPTSweetfrost actually voted for Sqrt while Tamburini voted for Yellow. That is quite strange to me, but Sweetfrost could have been keeping his vote on Sqrt early, just to switch on Yellow when more people jumped on Yellow so he doesn't look as scummy. His rationale for voting Sqrt was just that he thought either Bunny or Yellow was scum, but not both, so he didn't want to risk it and voted Sqrt. I don't think anybody else has any real fear of Bunny being actual scum right now, and her actions read town to me, so I think Sqrt was covering his tracks through his action here, ready to switch the vote out later when people started calling Yellow scum again.
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
Sweetfrost actually voted for Sqrt while Tamburini voted for Yellow. That is quite strange to me, but Sweetfrost could have been keeping his vote on Sqrt early, just to switch on Yellow when more people jumped on Yellow so he doesn't look as scummy. His rationale for voting Sqrt was just that he thought either Bunny or Yellow was scum, but not both, so he didn't want to risk it and voted Sqrt. I don't think anybody else has any real fear of Bunny being actual scum right now, and her actions read town to me, so I think Sqrt was covering his tracks through his action here, ready to switch the vote out later when people started calling Yellow scum again. | ||
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ritoky
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MysteryMeat1
United States3291 Posts
On April 29 2014 11:25 mtamburini wrote: Bunnies is on the hunt! Ill let you borrow my noose. On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote: Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w On April 29 2014 11:53 mtamburini wrote: I need to prove to myself and the others that have played with me that I am not a donkey and can find scum. My piss poor performance from last game mis hammering on Moose had bothered me for a while and when I heard there was another noobie game I was excited to come back and gain redemption. My inspiration. On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote: Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. On April 29 2014 22:21 mtamburini wrote: She didn't ask how to be more towny, she asked why is she getting slack for pushing on you and voting on you when Eden just casts a vote on someone who has not said a word and has no accusation towards then. If you can't see the difference in questioning and tone from your question to hers then I don't know what to tell you. On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote: I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too) Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else? It is way tooo early in a mafia game to start trying to pocket someone this hard. Literally at least half of his posts are bunny lets do this, bunny lets do that. She ain't your gf bro. Also I like how in the last post i quoted, dfs points that yellow has been cleared and tamburini asks for details on yellow first and mentions other people as an after thought. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
Also, a lot of his posts follow logic and reasoning, such as some I'll throw below. On April 30 2014 04:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I don't like the fact that yellow is under suspicion. I don't think he's mafia. Joking and sarcasm is perfectly fine in the early stages of the game. That post was from the early stages of the game. I don't think this warrants a case against yellow. The only fault I see so far is that he should be contributing a bit more. Which can also be said for a lot of others. I agree just about completely here. Yellow was under suspicion for making jokes, which was why I ended up defending him early on. Sqrt comes up with the same conclusion as I do, that the suspicion wasn't warranted. On April 30 2014 02:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: EBWOP *Eden was clared because he's been asking good questions. However, he's a bit more low tone than last game, so I think I need to keep an eye on him. I agree with this too. I read through that last game as it was running and Eden got shot day1 as town because of how well he was doing. He seems to have taken a step back this game, but is still contributing, just not as much. It's something to take notice of. On April 30 2014 02:36 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Amiko has been talking, and his posts make me think that he's seriously trying to figure this one out. Cleared. @dfs, This post, his first post, makes me think that he's mafia. Everyone is mafia, according to him, until proven otherwise. This is the small point that made me suspicious. Generally, you think people are town until proven mafia. I've cleared yellow as town, but at the bottom of the scale. Why? It's because I have greater suspicions on other people, and those other people are pushing yellow. Eden was cleared because he's been asking good questions. He's a bit more low tone than last game, so I think I need to keep an I on him. I have the same suspicions as Sqrt. I believe that the people pushing for Yellow's lynch are more suspicious than Yellow himself. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
On April 30 2014 15:42 MysteryMeat1 wrote: It is way tooo early in a mafia game to start trying to pocket someone this hard. Literally at least half of his posts are bunny lets do this, bunny lets do that. She ain't your gf bro. Also I like how in the last post i quoted, dfs points that yellow has been cleared and tamburini asks for details on yellow first and mentions other people as an after thought. I literally just brought that up in my big post 40 minutes ago or so. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3291 Posts
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Epishade
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Alright, well, it's 3 AM over here now, so I'm getting off. I'll have to see what everyone thinks later. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On April 30 2014 15:15 Epishade wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, so I've been looking through filters for a while now, and have come up with my likely scumteam candidates: Sweetfrost, Tamburini, and Ritoky. I'll give my reasoning. The main thing that I can see between these three is that all of them are pushing really hard for Yellow's lynch, but also clearing each other at the same time. Sweetfrost clears Ritoky as town and is trying to kill Yellow while attempting to discredit Bunny (and Sqrt) through these posts. On April 30 2014 05:43 Sweetfrost wrote: I can understand that it seems supicious that I don't want to voice an opinion on everyone in the game but since I'm not really sure what I think about the people I haven't talked about I feel it would be stupid to talk about them. I'm not going to give an state an opinion that I actually don't belive in. But I'm willing to say that I consider Ritoky cleared as town, I like his analysis and they don't seem supicious and he's not jumping on any bandwagons and instead making good independet analysis. I agree with him that sqrt posts are very numerous, short and prodding at people to make analysis all the time. I believe that it's a sign of sqrt being scum. So to sum it up. Cleared : ritoky Possible scum : Yellow/bunny and sqrt On April 30 2014 04:57 Sweetfrost wrote: Well as I stated I suspect Bunny being scum for his efforts of trying very hard to build up a positive relationship with everyone. See my previous posts. As for the rest I'm very unsure and still don't want to give a public opinion on anyone since it would just be misleading, I don't have an opinion on the rest yet. So the only thing I'm willing to say right now is that I don't trust Bunny and Yellow. Sweetfrost's plan was to undermine Bunny by saying that he thought she was trying too hard to play townie. I disagree and think Bunny was moving town in the right direction by engaging Yellow in that initial push. Ritoky has been slightly accusatory against Sqrt, which is in line with Sweetfrost's opinion on Sqrt as well, as shown in the post above. They are slowly building up support against Sqrt to lynch him at a later time it seems to me. On April 30 2014 05:26 ritoky wrote: sqrt:I don't know if it is a stylistic thing or what, but there's something weird here. Lots of prods, short comments, and question asking, not much in the way of legwork. Combine that with the lack of seriousness early on and it just strikes me as all very odd. I don't read him as projecting town in any way; whereas most other people I can read town aspects to what they do and say. My biggest problem with Ritoky though, is how quickly he changed his opinion on Yellow. He first decided that Yellow was likely not Scum when it seemed that pressure had been taken off Yellow. However, when Yellow was pressured again and started piggybacking off of what I said earlier, I think he saw an opportunity to bandwagon people against Yellow. On April 29 2014 12:14 ritoky wrote: I don't think yell0w is scum right now at all, he responded how he responded. It wasn't ideal, but he is sticking to his story saying it was a joke and I don't read him as hyper defensive about it. But you seem to be very pushy about this entire topic and very heavily deflecting for him. It could just be a legitimate read and belief that it is a joke, but you could also be mafia deflecting for another mafia or mafia trying to deflect/pocket a town who faced early pressure. ^Ritoky said this before Yellow got suspicion on him again. His wording here is what throws me off a bit. "I don't think Yellow is scum right now at all." He says this when pressure starts dropping off of yellow. Then, a little later on, Yellow is put back in the spotlight. Eden votes for Yellow, then Ritoky decides to join in by saying he isn't opposed to a lynch. I think he thought that, with other public support against Yellow outside of mafia, he'd be able to bandwagon against Yellow as the first lynch. On April 30 2014 13:15 ritoky wrote: @yellow: Regarding your opinion on mtamburini, it may just be a difference of opinion. But you were highly defensive and highly concerned with appearance. And I think it is very right that you are pressured heavily based on that fact. Regarding what you said about sqrt, I could not agree more with "he did seem to be trying to start conversations when there wasn't one, I just don't think he was doing anything when there was one". And in my mind he just did it again. He said there is nothing going on when you and I were clearly interacting. He just seems to be waiting for everyone else to play the game so that he can pick the winning side. Again, maybe it's a stylistic thing cuz basically nothing he says seems town to me so far, but I just can't find any reason to put him on the good side of the tracks Here is where he attempts to discredit Sqrt. Tamburini has been desperately trying to kill Yellow way too hard. On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote: Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w I mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This sounds like a flimsy excuse to me to lynch someone. Obviously town SHOULD care that they appear townie. You want to try everything possible to stop from getting lynched. Acting town AS A TOWNIE is the best way to accomplish that. He even continues his assault below. On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote: Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. I believe Tamburini was trying to get Bunny back on Yellow's case so that she might rally other people in support against Yellow so that he and his group would be able to vote for Yellow with the majority of Town. On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote: I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too) Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else? When dfs comes into the thread and says something against Sqrt, Tamburini says "I like this fellow" and basically nothing else. Once again, he's working one small step at a time to get support against Sqrt with his team. Then he asks dfs what he thinks about Yellow and/or anyone else. He doesn't just say "Can you give more details on anyone?" He makes sure to include Yellow outside of that 'anyone else' so that dfs would be more likely to respond specifically on Yellow. Then, if dfs thought that Yellow was scum, Tamburini would have even more support to lynch Yellow. ------------------------------ I believe that Eden had some good reads to come up with on Yellow (like that he wasn't actively scumhunting) that led to him arriving to vote at Yellow at his own discretion. I still wouldn't classify Eden as scum, but I do disagree with his vote. tldr: I think Tamburini, Ritoky, and Sweetfrost are all scum for a couple of factors. They all want to get rid of Yellow. They've shown distrust in me and Bunny, whom I would consider the most town player here so far. They have cleared each other at different times (Tamburini as an exception, hasn't cleared Ritoky and Sweetfrost, but has been cleared by them). And, they've all shown support against Sqrt as well, which I assume is to lynch him easier down the road. This is a great post. I have nothing insightful of my own to add to the analysis there. However, out of the three, I think mtamburini is the best lynch here. ritoky and sweetfrost's posts are better in that they talk about many different people, whereas mtamburini seems to be gunning straight for yell0w. Therefore it'll be handier to keep ritoky and sweetfrost around for longer as we can get more information out of them provided they continue their way of posting. ##Vote: mtamburini | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On April 30 2014 15:33 ritoky wrote: @Epishade: Before I really start typing in response, I have a simple question for you. You find a common thread to be that all of us don't like sqrt. What has sqrt done to make you think he is town? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
bunnies scum read on mtamburini pressed yellow town reads: epishade, yellow, amiko mafia reads: eden, mtamburini fence: sqrt, sweet, dfs, meat sweetfrost scum read on yellow scum read on bunnies town read: ritoky scum read on sqrt ritoky scum read on sqrt and epishade clears yellow defends tamburini neutral-town read on bunnies now reads yellow as odd mtamburini straight scum read on yellow agrees with dfs yell0w clears bunnies clears epishade scum read on eden no read on meat, ahswtini, dfs scum read on mamburini and sweetfrost epishade defends yellow but is suspicious scum read on sweetfrost and mtamburini clears amiko and bunny town read on eden neutral read on drav suspicious of meat town read on sqrt | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
Sweetfrost (0): mtamburini (3): Epishade, ahswtini, MysteryMeat1 Epishade (0): dfs (0): Yell0w (2): Eden1892 (1): sqrtofneg1 sqrtofneg1 (1): Sweetfrost Not voting (6): Yell0w, Amiko, dfs, ritoky, dravernor, 27ninjabunnies Currently, mtamburini is set to be lynched. Deadline is Thursday, May 01 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + ERROR: Eden1892 voted invalid player Eden (post) WARNING: Eden1892 unvoted without vote (post) VOTE: 27ninjabunnies voted Yell0w (post) VOTE: 27ninjabunnies unvoted Yell0w (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Sweetfrost (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Sweetfrost (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Epishade (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Epishade (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Epishade (post) VOTE: mtamburini voted Yell0w (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Epishade (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted dfs (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted dfs (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Yell0w (post) VOTE: sqrtofneg1 voted Eden (Eden1892) (post) VOTE: Sweetfrost voted sqrtofneg1 (post) VOTE: Epishade voted mtamburini (post) VOTE: ahswtini voted mtamburini (post) VOTE: MysteryMeat1 voted mtamburini (post) | ||
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Sweetfrost
Sweden211 Posts
On April 30 2014 15:15 Epishade wrote: Ok, so I've been looking through filters for a while now, and have come up with my likely scumteam candidates: Sweetfrost, Tamburini, and Ritoky. I'll give my reasoning. The main thing that I can see between these three is that all of them are pushing really hard for Yellow's lynch, but also clearing each other at the same time. Sweetfrost clears Ritoky as town and is trying to kill Yellow while attempting to discredit Bunny (and Sqrt) through these posts. Sweetfrost's plan was to undermine Bunny by saying that he thought she was trying too hard to play townie. I disagree and think Bunny was moving town in the right direction by engaging Yellow in that initial push. Ritoky has been slightly accusatory against Sqrt, which is in line with Sweetfrost's opinion on Sqrt as well, as shown in the post above. They are slowly building up support against Sqrt to lynch him at a later time it seems to me. My biggest problem with Ritoky though, is how quickly he changed his opinion on Yellow. He first decided that Yellow was likely not Scum when it seemed that pressure had been taken off Yellow. However, when Yellow was pressured again and started piggybacking off of what I said earlier, I think he saw an opportunity to bandwagon people against Yellow. ^Ritoky said this before Yellow got suspicion on him again. His wording here is what throws me off a bit. "I don't think Yellow is scum right now at all." He says this when pressure starts dropping off of yellow. Then, a little later on, Yellow is put back in the spotlight. Eden votes for Yellow, then Ritoky decides to join in by saying he isn't opposed to a lynch. I think he thought that, with other public support against Yellow outside of mafia, he'd be able to bandwagon against Yellow as the first lynch. Here is where he attempts to discredit Sqrt. Tamburini has been desperately trying to kill Yellow way too hard. I mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This sounds like a flimsy excuse to me to lynch someone. Obviously town SHOULD care that they appear townie. You want to try everything possible to stop from getting lynched. Acting town AS A TOWNIE is the best way to accomplish that. He even continues his assault below. I believe Tamburini was trying to get Bunny back on Yellow's case so that she might rally other people in support against Yellow so that he and his group would be able to vote for Yellow with the majority of Town. When dfs comes into the thread and says something against Sqrt, Tamburini says "I like this fellow" and basically nothing else. Once again, he's working one small step at a time to get support against Sqrt with his team. Then he asks dfs what he thinks about Yellow and/or anyone else. He doesn't just say "Can you give more details on anyone?" He makes sure to include Yellow outside of that 'anyone else' so that dfs would be more likely to respond specifically on Yellow. Then, if dfs thought that Yellow was scum, Tamburini would have even more support to lynch Yellow. ------------------------------ I believe that Eden had some good reads to come up with on Yellow (like that he wasn't actively scumhunting) that led to him arriving to vote at Yellow at his own discretion. I still wouldn't classify Eden as scum, but I do disagree with his vote. tldr: I think Tamburini, Ritoky, and Sweetfrost are all scum for a couple of factors. They all want to get rid of Yellow. They've shown distrust in me and Bunny, whom I would consider the most town player here so far. They have cleared each other at different times (Tamburini as an exception, hasn't cleared Ritoky and Sweetfrost, but has been cleared by them). And, they've all shown support against Sqrt as well, which I assume is to lynch him easier down the road. My plan was not to undermine Bunny I'm just trying to question all of these analysis being made and put some pressure on them. The reason I have cleared rikoty as town is that I didn't like that all the focus was on Eden and Yellow and he made good points about sqrt being very pushy and trying to get analysis out of everyone all the times with short provocing posts. I still hold to my opinion that either Yellow or Bunny is scum but not both of them. | ||
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
My thoughts on new developments so far: Meat - the least active. Says he is paying attention but has nothing to say, then justifies it with being busy, and then he finally makes a post focusing only on mtamburini without actually speaking his mind clearly. No point for a townie to sit out that long and then barely provide any thoughs of his own. Doesn't have anything positive going for him at all as of yet. Bunny - keeps doing what she was doing from the star: being active, asking questions and calling attention. Tries to bring as much information to the table as possible. The most town-looking person to me right now. Yell0w - keeps wasting everybody's time by being super defensive when getting attacked. He just can't stop himself from staying around the centre of attention. He was acting odd at the start, now instead of sharing his thoughs he goes defencive again. His posts don't convince me he is town. Although there are a bunch of people who clearly want his blood (Eden and mtamburini in particular), which might be worth looking into. Eden - wants to lynch Yell0w, badly. He makes his vote look like it's final. His pressure finnaly made Yell0w talk more about his reads, though. I do not agree that his points paint Yell0w as clear mafia. This is his only focus right now, which is better than his erratic votes at the start at least. Not enough info to think he's town still. mtamburini - our leader been gone since yesterday. Not a very leadership thing to do. His last post was very weird as some people pointed out, as his weird obsession with Yell0w. Need to see more of his thoughts on today's developments. Sweetfrost - not very active, but speaks his mind. Disagree with his Bunny read. Don't do anything to convince me he is town yet. Epishade - provides a theory of 3 mafia which looks a bit farfetched to me right now, but it would be interesting to go back to this later. Nothing else to say. Amiko - very thotough with his posts, i like it. Very much seems like working for town in general, especially his tip for masons. Sqrt - find his reads weird, especially how he cleared Yell0w "because I have greater suspicions on other people, and those other people are pushing yellow." I don't think that's justifiable enough to call someone town just like that. Don't like his Meat-possibly town read either. He also finds me suspicious for having a different approach to the game that he thinks is not the right one. Other than that he's been a bit more to the point wth his posts today, but I don't like his reads so far which makes me quite suspicious of him. ritoky, dravernor, ashwtini - can't say anything still. Too much other stuff to follow and they didn't really cought my attention yet. | ||
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