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EBWOP: Like I said, we should shoot thrawn and lynch cav. That way, we lose two scums.
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On April 17 2014 23:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi why are you indulging this stupidity if you think i'm 100% town?
It's fun and they are pretty set on the fact you are scum. It's hurting nobody except maybe your ego. It's even helping town because they are really really set on it.
Do you see something wrong with how they push you as scum? Do they do it all scummylike?
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Also imagine if I am wrong.
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@Koshi I meant it literally, I know that story and now every time I hear it from now on I'm gonna think of bitch 1 and bitch 2 lol
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On April 17 2014 23:23 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 23:22 Koshi wrote:On April 17 2014 23:21 thrawn2112 wrote:On April 17 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote:
thrawn can you answer OTW his case? There are some good parts in there. It should be cleared up. no there aren't. Sure there is. The part where you look like you want to lynch Cavalinho unless FT fucks off and you vote FT anyway. What happened there? ft fucked off. he told us it was ok for us to lynch him him to avoid a no lynch and then stopped trying to save himself.
So you're telling me he fucked off in the 2 minutes you gave him to respond?
On April 17 2014 12:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
omg.
Cavalinho and FT
post stuff!
On April 17 2014 12:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok. i think i'm going to vote for FT
even though in that time Tofu was the only one out of the 2 to be posting!
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So you have scum read Cav > Tofu at this point because you switched off of tofu to vote Cav when everyone was going onto him. At the time you make the statement that people shouldn't disappear and they should speak, yet Tofu is not off the table in terms of a lynch. You tell both people to speak up and talk.
Tofu is the only one to respond in this time whereas Cav is not around but then you vote for Tofu even though he was responding to everything being asked?
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People keep saying my filter is scummy, but nobody actually sits down and specifies why. What is scummy about my filter?
And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early?
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hi cav. what is most scummy about your filter, i would say, is the weak ressons behind your scumreads
CAV, you keep saying you gave reasons why FT over mderg.
I can't find where you gave them.
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I wasn't impressed with FT's responses. he was being too passive, it didn't feel like a guy who was upset about potentially being mislynched. he wasn't trying to get cavalin lynched. cavalin was trying to get FT lynched, FT gave some last minutes read but it was a shitty list post and he didn't explain any of them. it didn;t feel like he was trying to help at all.
another big part of why I swtiched was vivax. especially this post
On April 17 2014 12:43 Vivax wrote:Question 1: Why does scum add the bolded to a post when they've already explained who they want to lynch? Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 13:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Looking through FT's filter, I see a big post that discredits Omni without actually coming to any conclusion aside from trying to make him look bad, a long post on skab that boils down to "he claimed vig, so he's probably town," and a big post that doesn't go anywhere.
I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players.
##Vote FirmTofu
Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well. Question 2: The point he makes about kush is actually quite valid if the representation is correct. Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 03:33 Cavalinho wrote:
Your whole reasoning for voting me is that I'm focusing on FT rather than mderg. Guess what? I think mderg is scummy too. I just wanted to bring FT's actions into the spotlight rather than mderg's because more people were focusing on mderg.
Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer. Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 03:37 Cavalinho wrote:On April 17 2014 03:34 kushm4sta wrote:On April 17 2014 03:33 Cavalinho wrote:
Your whole reasoning for voting me is that I'm focusing on FT rather than mderg. Guess what? I think mderg is scummy too. I just wanted to bring FT's actions into the spotlight rather than mderg's because more people were focusing on mderg.
Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer. How is that my only reason for thinking you are scummy? That is one of many reasons. From my point of view, it looks like that's what it boils down to. If there are more reasons, tell me what they are, because I don't see it. Also, what's up with my handle? >.> Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 03:50 Cavalinho wrote:On April 17 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote:
my case on cavalinho outlined
1. you think FT is scummy for answering a question thoroughly, rather than just saying "im null on that guy
2 you are calling FT scummy for one very unspecific, generic reason: He is writing a lot while not doing anything, basically. And you keep saying that in different words over and over again.
3 it looks nothing like your town game, where the reasoning behind your reads are much more in depth.
4 You are scumreading FT, when what you are scum reading them for, not taking a stance, mberg does much worse. Oh you had a secret scumread on mberg, ok... 1) It's not because he answered a question thoroughly. He didn't answer it thoroughly. He made a post that looked like he was doing analysis which boiled down to an analysis with no definitive conclusion. 2) His filter is less than a page long. He doesn't answer my questions and doesn't really respond to/deny accusations. It's possible he's genuinely afk, but I'm going to keep my vote on him until he convinces me otherwise. 3) Newbie games and regular games are two completely different things. Just because my reads aren't as elaborate as they were, that doesn't mean my reads were necessarily better then. The key difference is that I was outing my reads as a whole, rather than just scumreads. 4) You act like I was supposed to ignore mderg so I would look scummy, and then I admit I have a scumread on him too. This makes me scummy...How, exactly? I don't understand your logic. 1) His thoughts on FT: My thoughts 2) One more reason for his FT read. 3) He disarms the meta argument with something that sounds reasonable. 4) Here kush says he's scum for admitting to having a scumread on mberg when asked. How is that scummy? You guys don't even look at his defense, don't even reply to it. This wagon stinks of scum. And FT says "we should look into him" LOL. Still waiting on that miracle.
also OTW wtf is up with you shitting on me for choosing the lynch you voted for? you think I shoulda gone with the other guy? apperently not, according to your vote.
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On April 18 2014 01:03 Cavalinho wrote:
People keep saying my filter is scummy, but nobody actually sits down and specifies why. What is scummy about my filter?
And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early? \
djag is town. do you disagree?
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and who are you even asking that question....lol
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On April 18 2014 01:08 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 01:03 Cavalinho wrote:
People keep saying my filter is scummy, but nobody actually sits down and specifies why. What is scummy about my filter?
And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early? \ djag is town. do you disagree?
I'm not sure. I need rethink a ton of shit after this lynch.
and who are you even asking that question....lol
What exactly are you getting at here? Am I supposed to just roll over and die when people want me lynched/shot? Nobody is telling me what makes me scum, even though my lynch was deemed a terrible idea in the first place.
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It's not a trick question.
You say "And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early?"
I want to know who you wanted to answer that question. Who did you write it for?
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On April 18 2014 01:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
It's not a trick question.
You say "And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early?"
I want to know who you wanted to answer that question. Who did you write it for?
Myself, I think. I'm probably going to do a write-up on several people when I get the chance, specifically Djag, because I don't think his thought process makes sense.
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On April 18 2014 01:05 thrawn2112 wrote:I wasn't impressed with FT's responses. he was being too passive, it didn't feel like a guy who was upset about potentially being mislynched. he wasn't trying to get cavalin lynched. cavalin was trying to get FT lynched, FT gave some last minutes read but it was a shitty list post and he didn't explain any of them. it didn;t feel like he was trying to help at all. another big part of why I swtiched was vivax. especially this post Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 12:43 Vivax wrote:Question 1: Why does scum add the bolded to a post when they've already explained who they want to lynch? On April 16 2014 13:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Looking through FT's filter, I see a big post that discredits Omni without actually coming to any conclusion aside from trying to make him look bad, a long post on skab that boils down to "he claimed vig, so he's probably town," and a big post that doesn't go anywhere.
I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players.
##Vote FirmTofu
Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well. Question 2: The point he makes about kush is actually quite valid if the representation is correct. On April 17 2014 03:33 Cavalinho wrote:
Your whole reasoning for voting me is that I'm focusing on FT rather than mderg. Guess what? I think mderg is scummy too. I just wanted to bring FT's actions into the spotlight rather than mderg's because more people were focusing on mderg.
Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer. On April 17 2014 03:37 Cavalinho wrote:On April 17 2014 03:34 kushm4sta wrote:On April 17 2014 03:33 Cavalinho wrote:
Your whole reasoning for voting me is that I'm focusing on FT rather than mderg. Guess what? I think mderg is scummy too. I just wanted to bring FT's actions into the spotlight rather than mderg's because more people were focusing on mderg.
Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer. How is that my only reason for thinking you are scummy? That is one of many reasons. From my point of view, it looks like that's what it boils down to. If there are more reasons, tell me what they are, because I don't see it. Also, what's up with my handle? >.> On April 17 2014 03:50 Cavalinho wrote:On April 17 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote:
my case on cavalinho outlined
1. you think FT is scummy for answering a question thoroughly, rather than just saying "im null on that guy
2 you are calling FT scummy for one very unspecific, generic reason: He is writing a lot while not doing anything, basically. And you keep saying that in different words over and over again.
3 it looks nothing like your town game, where the reasoning behind your reads are much more in depth.
4 You are scumreading FT, when what you are scum reading them for, not taking a stance, mberg does much worse. Oh you had a secret scumread on mberg, ok... 1) It's not because he answered a question thoroughly. He didn't answer it thoroughly. He made a post that looked like he was doing analysis which boiled down to an analysis with no definitive conclusion. 2) His filter is less than a page long. He doesn't answer my questions and doesn't really respond to/deny accusations. It's possible he's genuinely afk, but I'm going to keep my vote on him until he convinces me otherwise. 3) Newbie games and regular games are two completely different things. Just because my reads aren't as elaborate as they were, that doesn't mean my reads were necessarily better then. The key difference is that I was outing my reads as a whole, rather than just scumreads. 4) You act like I was supposed to ignore mderg so I would look scummy, and then I admit I have a scumread on him too. This makes me scummy...How, exactly? I don't understand your logic. 1) His thoughts on FT: My thoughts 2) One more reason for his FT read. 3) He disarms the meta argument with something that sounds reasonable. 4) Here kush says he's scum for admitting to having a scumread on mberg when asked. How is that scummy? You guys don't even look at his defense, don't even reply to it. This wagon stinks of scum. And FT says "we should look into him" LOL. Still waiting on that miracle. also OTW wtf is up with you shitting on me for choosing the lynch you voted for? you think I shoulda gone with the other guy? apperently not, according to your vote.
I had imperfect information and was away from the deadline so could not ask questions or reaffirm myself, I also only voted based on the scummy way he pushed me for a lynch, whereas you were present and just declared ultimatums.
I knew you'd bring up that post but I fail to see how that specific post could be read in 1 minute and then you were able to process it all in that time and vote for Tofu straight away (1 minute between vivax posting that wall of quotes and text and thrawn changing vote - in vote thread at :44 too).
On April 17 2014 12:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok. i think i'm going to vote for FT
You also state:
he wasn't trying to get cavalin lynched. cavalin was trying to get FT lynched, FT gave some last minutes read but it was a shitty list post and he didn't explain any of them. it didn;t feel like he was trying to help at all.
If this was the case then your posts at the actual time of the event were not true?
On April 17 2014 12:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
tbh i don't feel that great about either of these lynches. something feels wrong
On April 17 2014 12:55 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 12:51 Cavalinho wrote:On April 17 2014 12:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
tbh i don't feel that great about either of these lynches. something feels wrong Why? neither of you are fighting very hard
Here (^) it states that you think passivity is something that a towny does.
I wasn't impressed with FT's responses. he was being too passive, it didn't feel like a guy who was upset about potentially being mislynched. he wasn't trying to get cavalin lynched. cavalin was trying to get FT lynched, FT gave some last minutes read but it was a shitty list post and he didn't explain any of them.
Whereas here(^), your reason for voting Tofu was passivity.
If what you just say is true now, then Cavalinho absolutely should have been your top lynch choice, yet you went to Tofu directly after people started piling onto him.
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On April 18 2014 01:18 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 01:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
It's not a trick question.
You say "And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early?"
I want to know who you wanted to answer that question. Who did you write it for? Myself, I think. I'm probably going to do a write-up on several people when I get the chance, specifically Djag, because I don't think his thought process makes sense.
his thought proces makes perfect sense. it'[s just unbelievably noobish and lazy.
so that's really weird that you asked a question to nobody in particular, a question puts djag in a negative light, except when I pressure you on it you're just talking to yourself? and you don't know if you're scum reading him yet you plan to do a write-up on him?
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Cavalinho, when you first joined the game, you made this post:
On April 16 2014 12:56 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote:I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever. On April 15 2014 14:36 Cavalinho wrote:On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote:On April 15 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi. Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now? Nothing has happened yet. So...Nothing. Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not). On April 16 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote:On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. Uhh. Also I don't get the points in your post at all. I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset. I have three posts and you're scumreading me off them. That doesn't make any sense. I'd actually argue, but you have no real information to determine my alignment one way or the other. (Though, in all fairness, I have been somewhat inactive.) Oddness aside, I'm actually going to go ahead and say that I somewhat like this post in the sense that it feels like you're trying to generate discussion. Sure, it's wrong, but that happens. With the activity of the thread being so mediocre as it stands, trying to generate discussion is a pro-town move in my eyes.
Which was fair enough and it seemed like a way a towny would respond, however, practically your next post was:
On April 16 2014 13:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Looking through FT's filter, I see a big post that discredits Omni without actually coming to any conclusion aside from trying to make him look bad, a long post on skab that boils down to "he claimed vig, so he's probably town," and a big post that doesn't go anywhere.
I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players.
##Vote FirmTofu
Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well.
How are the two events different? Why mention in the first place that reading someone as scummy from only a few posts is a weird thing for town to do (admittedly you town read me for it anyway) but then in your next post do the exact same thing?
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Also, I found it extremely odd at the time that Vivax had Cavalinho as his town read based on his filter (hence why I wanted him to expand on this) but then pointed out specifically just me for my initial post on Cavalinho and not Cavalinho on his post on FirmTofu.
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On April 18 2014 01:24 OneThousandWords wrote:Cavalinho, when you first joined the game, you made this post: Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 12:56 Cavalinho wrote:On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote:I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever. On April 15 2014 14:36 Cavalinho wrote:On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote:On April 15 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi. Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now? Nothing has happened yet. So...Nothing. Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not). On April 16 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote:On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. Uhh. Also I don't get the points in your post at all. I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset. I have three posts and you're scumreading me off them. That doesn't make any sense. I'd actually argue, but you have no real information to determine my alignment one way or the other. (Though, in all fairness, I have been somewhat inactive.) Oddness aside, I'm actually going to go ahead and say that I somewhat like this post in the sense that it feels like you're trying to generate discussion. Sure, it's wrong, but that happens. With the activity of the thread being so mediocre as it stands, trying to generate discussion is a pro-town move in my eyes. Which was fair enough and it seemed like a way a towny would respond, however, practically your next post was: Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 13:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Looking through FT's filter, I see a big post that discredits Omni without actually coming to any conclusion aside from trying to make him look bad, a long post on skab that boils down to "he claimed vig, so he's probably town," and a big post that doesn't go anywhere.
I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players.
##Vote FirmTofu
Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well. How are the two events different? Why mention in the first place that reading someone as scummy from only a few posts is a weird thing for town to do (admittedly you town read me for it anyway) but then in your next post do the exact same thing?
The difference is my posts have no content while FT's posts looked like they had content but didn't.
The two are completely different, albeit I was still wrong.
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On April 18 2014 01:22 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 01:18 Cavalinho wrote:On April 18 2014 01:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
It's not a trick question.
You say "And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early?"
I want to know who you wanted to answer that question. Who did you write it for? Myself, I think. I'm probably going to do a write-up on several people when I get the chance, specifically Djag, because I don't think his thought process makes sense. his thought proces makes perfect sense. it'[s just unbelievably noobish and lazy. so that's really weird that you asked a question to nobody in particular, a question puts djag in a negative light, except when I pressure you on it you're just talking to yourself? and you don't know if you're scum reading him yet you plan to do a write-up on him?
Better question: why would I know his alignment before I do a serious filter dive?
I have to run errands, be back in a couple hours.
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