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On April 17 2014 05:12 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 05:09 OmniEulogy wrote:
FT I'm pretty sure everybody in this game should know how Koshi and Kush feel about me at this point. Koshi and I have like two pages of this game entirely focused on conversations between ourselves which started and ended in him calling me scum and Kush has said he thinks im town in like three different posts.
This comes off as a useless question to me that anybody in this game should be able to answer. Current thoughts are not always identical to past thoughts.
with nothing to add to them they normally are. I'm just wondering why you want to talk about the same subject for another 2 pages instead of actually moving forward.
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I should also add hide what? The question was directed at them not me, but sure I'm in their thoughts and I can control what they post so I'm trying to stop them from repeating the same thing for the 5th time each. You are digging a little bit too deep with no substance to make those types of claims lol
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I'm in agreement with you there OTW.
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On April 17 2014 07:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 07:39 Koshi wrote:On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago. So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book... You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now. Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards? Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? On April 15 2014 21:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.
Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta? No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing. Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours. ^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 18:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:04 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards? Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? not reading it properly. All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia. especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? I see no reason to think he is town. so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge. + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2014 03:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.
And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.
No, I blame him for playing it period. Also On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote:
You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.
The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim? you say it yourself. Somehow you missed it while you were typing it I guess. It has nothing to do with his amount of scum games he's played. Could be one now and it wouldn't stop him from saying he's never played as scum before. You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta? And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything. Anyway, my vote is on the right person. Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that? + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 22:38 Djagulingu wrote:On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.
I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.
In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus: And so I found him. The prodigal problem child. Alleyman. Peleus.
The sniper was a little resitant to my ideas. That's understandable. I was actually pleased that he didn't take to them so quickly. Enlightenment shouldn't come immediately. It took me a long time to discover the truth. We can't all be Paul on the road to Damascus.
He had the methods down. He's messy and he leaves too much of himself behind, but he's efficient. His numbers are great. And I appreciate his attitude toward others of our kind. He won't tolerate their whiny, backstabbing bullshit. Their opinions are threefold- they can help, they can get out of the way or they try to find their way out of a body bag. He doesn't know the words for it yet, but somewhere in there he knows that if you're not curing the cancer, you are the cancer. There's no in between. unless you are roleplaying as somebody in your book I fail to see how it changes what he said and how this answers none of it =/ My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it. sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though. Vivax. Your opinion on this post? Idk lol. It's confusing. I don't get what he's trying to accomplish by bringing up all those points about you. I actually don't know if he wants to paint you in a better or worse light, and why it's relevant in his reply to Djago since he doesn't show any signs of having a scumread on you afterwards. I would like to hear OE's intentions behind this post.
at no point in that case do I call Koshi scum, I tried to discredit his ridiculous thinking for sure considering everything he was doing and saying made absolutely no sense, I was also a bit irritated with him because I think I had to repeat myself for him twice at that point within a short period of time.
Just because I was upset with Koshi didn't mean I thought he was scum, just that he was extremely wrong with his thought process. Which he still is but w/e
As far as the Thrawn / Kush thing goes, I meant Kush and the other lurkers more or less all seemed as likely as candidates for scum and why would I vote for one of four people when Thrawn stood out to me? I explained it earlier. I'd rather lynch somebody I think is scum as opposed to one of multiple people who are just scummy. At the time Thrawn's contributions were literally asking for a policy lynch and voting for a lurker who had said he had no time to play that day.
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On April 17 2014 09:30 kushm4sta wrote:
I think OE is a better bet.
you'd be wrong 
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shoulda bought an AWP sooner. You're probably town. I wish there wasn't snow on the ground. I dunno who to vote for anymore.
in no particular order.
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seriously though this game is god damn confusing right now. I can't tell if the people I'm checking off as town are actually town or if I'm just bad at judging this shit.
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On April 17 2014 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok.
I don't think we should lynch OE.
that's awesome, but I still have no fucking clue who scum is in this game.
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All I can say Vivax is that Djag was figured out at that point for everything he had said and then I went to sleep and he made more posts. What can ya do, people continue to talk even when you're not there.
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Oddly enough my last post also works as an answer to your latest post too Vivax.
What can ya do, people continue to talk even when you're not there. Thrawn was no longer just somebody who wanted a policy lynch and a dead lurker who had already stated he had no time to play.
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On April 17 2014 10:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 10:32 OmniEulogy wrote:
All I can say Vivax is that Djag was figured out at that point for everything he had said and then I went to sleep and he made more posts. What can ya do, people continue to talk even when you're not there. If you were town you would have to have some suspects. Why aren't you mentioning thrawn after your previous points on him if not cause he's defending you right now? Also what do you mean by figured out? You mean you were so sure he was scum and he became townie to you cause of his later posts? If so, you should be able to elaborate on the posts that changed your mind and the reasons for it. If so, you should have found out more stuff about Djag, asked him stuff. All I can see is that you blamed him for saying he never played scum and the meta thingy.
Considering I've subbed in for scum before I did almost exactly what you've done so far and it was quite easy I might add.
Of course I still consider people scum, the problem is I have no clue which of them actually are.
On April 17 2014 09:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
seriously though this game is god damn confusing right now. I can't tell if the people I'm checking off as town are actually town or if I'm just bad at judging this shit.
this doesn't mean I think everybody is town just so you know. Cause you seem to think I'm only having issues deciding who is scum lol.
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On April 17 2014 10:44 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 10:43 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 17 2014 10:37 Vivax wrote:On April 17 2014 10:32 OmniEulogy wrote:
All I can say Vivax is that Djag was figured out at that point for everything he had said and then I went to sleep and he made more posts. What can ya do, people continue to talk even when you're not there. If you were town you would have to have some suspects. Why aren't you mentioning thrawn after your previous points on him if not cause he's defending you right now? Also what do you mean by figured out? You mean you were so sure he was scum and he became townie to you cause of his later posts? If so, you should be able to elaborate on the posts that changed your mind and the reasons for it. If so, you should have found out more stuff about Djag, asked him stuff. All I can see is that you blamed him for saying he never played scum and the meta thingy. Considering I've subbed in for scum before I did almost exactly what you've done so far and it was quite easy I might add. what are you talking about?
I'm just comparing my scum game to how vivax is playing right now as a replacement and how they tend to lineup pretty well, as a response to me not thinking anybody is scum
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On April 17 2014 10:48 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 10:47 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 17 2014 10:44 thrawn2112 wrote:On April 17 2014 10:43 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 17 2014 10:37 Vivax wrote:On April 17 2014 10:32 OmniEulogy wrote:
All I can say Vivax is that Djag was figured out at that point for everything he had said and then I went to sleep and he made more posts. What can ya do, people continue to talk even when you're not there. If you were town you would have to have some suspects. Why aren't you mentioning thrawn after your previous points on him if not cause he's defending you right now? Also what do you mean by figured out? You mean you were so sure he was scum and he became townie to you cause of his later posts? If so, you should be able to elaborate on the posts that changed your mind and the reasons for it. If so, you should have found out more stuff about Djag, asked him stuff. All I can see is that you blamed him for saying he never played scum and the meta thingy. Considering I've subbed in for scum before I did almost exactly what you've done so far and it was quite easy I might add. what are you talking about? I'm just comparing my scum game to how vivax is playing right now as a replacement and how they tend to lineup pretty well, as a response to me not thinking anybody is scum yeah I'm asking you to explain how vivax is playing, and how you played.
alright, I found that if you come in late to a game from somebody with virtually 0 posts it's impossible for people to really know your alignment from how they played (obviously). I used that to get in pretty good with town by feeding off the huge amount of information and really driving home the mistakes that town had made and using that to get mislynches while more or less guiding other players to see things from my P.O.V and then after the townies got lynched going "oh well, this town really fucked up and I came in late so what can ya do at least I tried!"
I see a lot of vivax asking other people to explain themselves which is fine in its own right, but the lack of original content has bothered me a bit.
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On April 17 2014 10:49 FirmTofu wrote:
What's with this "I'm new and I don't know what anyone is" excuse that OE keeps going on about?
OE, give me a few scumreads. Work with me here and we'll figure out where you stand.
I don't think I said it was due to me being new at all. Just all of my former idea's about this game being flipped while I go afk for a few hours multiple times.
also vivax I've said I was irritated with Koshi when I made that post previously so yeah maybe it doesn't make the most sense but it's also why I don't call him scum anywhere in it. I don't think he's scum I was just pissed off with him cause I know I'm town, I was the only other active townie talking to him, and we kept going in circles.
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reading through kush and cavalinho's filters FT
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On April 17 2014 11:10 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm going to move my vote to Cava. I think we need to be looking into him further. OE, if you continue to ignore me, I'll leave my vote on you.
##Vote: Cavalinho
I said this to Koshi too but you can do what ever you want dude. till you actually do it keep your empty threats to yourself
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On April 17 2014 11:13 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 11:11 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 17 2014 11:10 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm going to move my vote to Cava. I think we need to be looking into him further. OE, if you continue to ignore me, I'll leave my vote on you.
##Vote: Cavalinho I said this to Koshi too but you can do what ever you want dude. till you actually do it keep your empty threats to yourself I just want some scumreads man... You're telling me you haven't found anyone you think is scummy yet. I know you said something about Vivax, but it seemed pretty half-assed. Give me a reason not to vote you.
like I said, it's not that I don't think anybody is scummy, it's that there are like five people being cavalinho, Kush, FT, mderg, and possibly Skan that I could see being scum, and then Vivax is unreadable to me at this point.
What I will say is that afaik mderg never said anything about being busy today. He left us without giving us any real input into what happened during the day other than a small back and forth with Skan argues with OO and OTW and then votes for FT because he thinks his case on OTW is bad (who he also doesn't like).
In terms of the choices I think I have for scum I'd probably go mderg, FT / Kush, Cavalinho in that order.
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mderg's M.O seems to be to dislike cases people put forward and then call them scummy because they are trying to scum hunt. That's the biggest thing I noticed from his filter that sets him apart from Kush / Cavalinho / FT.
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On April 17 2014 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
dont group me with those noobs
sorry  if it makes you feel any better your 3rd not 2nd and it's almost entirely because of how you play / act so sure of player roles. lol
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I think FT is still 2nd because despite what others have said his recent words and actions don't quite add up properly.
He doesn't make a case on OTW but votes for him because of a case he makes on Thrawn in order to discredit him to defend Thrawn, but when Thrawn says he didn't really defend him, he agrees. moves on and misreads / misinterprets a few posts in order to make me look worse because the facts don't quite work in his favor. Then talks about how OTW is a good lynch and votes for Cav in the next post while saying he really wants to vote for me if I'm no longer here.
these things don't convince me he's town Kush.
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