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On April 08 2014 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote: So...somebody vig geript k? Don't tempt me Wave... Don't do it. | ||
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On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote: Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this: The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether? Yea, I think syllo is probably scum. Ok so I knew I was replacing in earlier today and have semi-been following the thread. I started off by filtering Keirathi because he's the shit and has amazing meta reads. I don't get why he calls hopeless town but I'm 100% going to sheep that. The important thing is this post which burried Syllogism. The specific thing that I think Keirathi didn't look at was that the true is essentially the same as Sandroba. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:23 Paperscraps wrote: @geript, Why did you even opt to be a replacement? You said you didn't like half the people in this game and you don't like bigger games in general? Because I'd prefer to not have modkills because they ruin games and Greymist is the shit and shouldn't ever have his game ruined because people are not being nice. Plus apparently VE has a green check on me which takes off a lot of the pressure to be a try hard and catch up 100%. FWIW, I'm essentially viewing this as Day 1 for me so I'll likely probably be focusing on what people say from here on but meh. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:28 Holyflare wrote: geript if you don't full role claim i will legitimately bomb you You can try but I don't think it will go through. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Full roleclaim. In fact at this point considering how much behind the scenes KP we have stocked up it may yet be prudent for massclaim? At least for the non-greens on the list. That I'm not sure of, what are peoples thoughts There really aren't non-greens in this game :/ me no likey | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Not talking to you. If you don't claim we kill you. High priority. Ok I'll claim. I'm town. ggnore | ||
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meh, I'll prove it by the end of the night and by end of the night I mean by like 5 am. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Why is everyone all up on Geript's dick and no one is even CONSIDERING VayneAuthority? I'VE GOT A GREEN CHECK ON HIM PEOPLE, GTFO yah he was on my scumpile... 2 page filter. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey geript, if you're not reading properly, how do you know of the persistence of the term 'scumpile?' I saw Palmer do it earlier and found it funny. | ||
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On April 08 2014 10:55 Holyflare wrote: Geript I'm just going to tell you now. I actually CAN stop the bomb. If I die it goes off regardless so it's in your interest to claim right now or prove you are super town. Role =/= alignment | ||
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lulz I'm town. By definition my role is not anti-town Now if you wanted to claim that I'm anti-town regardless of alignment, that might actually be true but whatevs at best you're hypocritical. | ||
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On April 08 2014 12:25 Holyflare wrote: but whatever, going to bed! geript you really need to full role claim or you will explode va, reply or mafiaz cell mafia confirmed tomorrow, gg (might not be around tomoz) I'm not claiming so get over it. | ||
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On April 08 2014 13:03 austinmcc wrote: Geript I'm going to sleep, but if I get naked and dance for you (in game, not promising out of game benefits) will you claim? If not, I will show you an ankle if you will reveal two words that are located anywhere in your role PM. You can even change the capitalization if you wish. I don't remember if I liked your filter or not when I read it. I think it was something like: Austin seems to make more sense than this as town. I like ankles but I prefer other things. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote: You do realise that its possible to change your playstyle? Is it brtter to find all the scum in day 1 and get mislynched day one or to slowly convince people to lynch your targets since you profess to have awesome reads. chill the fuck down, nobody is being personal. I personally don't find Oats to be aggressive or offensive at all this game. This post is really odd for him. I'd lynch him just over this post alone. I know that he's changed a little bit as town, but often as town he's in your face. My dive of Oats says there's a bridle on town Oats nature which means he's scum. I'd definitely lynch him. | ||
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On April 08 2014 17:31 sandroba wrote: Guarding the device is a very good idea for anyone that doesn't have anything useful to do during the night. You still around? | ||
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On April 08 2014 18:14 sandroba wrote: Yeah I'm here. Ok so I've missed a bunch of stuff and haven't read everything. Who are the people you think I should read? | ||
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JAT has a huge filter already I'll look at it more shortly but he had a 30+ page filter in LoL and I don't think he's a great player so I think he would really struggle posting that much as scum. In reading Vayne, I'm honestly not great. What Rayn's told me on how to read Vayne is to see how much he cares about being Mislynched and how much he cares about being right. Like he really cares about his reads being right more than he cares about winning. I don't 100% remember but the last game I played with him I think he actually pegged me and another person (HF maybe) as scum but his reasoning wasn't great. It's hard to explain the difference but his game looks even more passive and more so less caring who gets lynched. That combination is a good reason to lynch him. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote: Is holyflare always this paranoid? I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile. | ||
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On April 08 2014 19:14 sandroba wrote: "JAT has a huge filter already I'll look at it more shortly but he had a 30+ page filter in LoL and I don't think he's a great player so I think he would really struggle posting that much as scum." "Amiko... claimed 3p. Lynch it with fire. Don't care... not town." Okay so amiko claimed survivor and was pursued by mafia. Jats however claimed SK, adimitted to killing someone n1 and apparently tried to kill me day 2. I need to explain to me how on earth what you are saying makes any sense. JAT claimed 3P/ Oh. Didn't know that. Lynch pile then, don't care. In case you haven't figured out, I'm a "throw the baby out with the bathwater" type of player; you can blame Palmer for that. | ||
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Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote: That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it. As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched. This post and interaction feels odd but I hate associative tells. Don't like his townread on Hopeless at all. I saw Banks' case on Robert; from what I remember of NMM he threw a bunch of townreads out as scum early. I think there's a 'transmission error ' in the change between video/forum. On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote: OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was. Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM! This post seems really out of place to me. Like none of Roberts reads at this point make any sense at all, but this is a pretty valid point. That's a really weird switch IMO. He hated one of the LSB posts I hated; sadly he doesn't give a reason for it. Likes a completely non-alignment indicative post by JAT. Meh. I don't hate his read change on Joey; I kinda agree that's the meta I've seen of scum trolly Joey but not much experience with seeing that. I'm not seeing any really town indicative thing. I'd just policy lynch him for shitting up the thread and BM and move on. Other than that he's just a PoE lynch; better to lynch someone else first. | ||
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On April 08 2014 19:23 WaveofShadow wrote: I can see that you have made a conscious decision to play without caring, and I think you're doing it to cover up the fact that you're scum. Think what you want. I don't care. I'm coming in effectively 200 pages behind and who knows how many pms short. I have a general idea of what's happened previously but that's it. Like I'm a fucking phenominal player but I'm not a magic worker. Plus it's way easier to get a read on good players based on what they suggest and push while giving me a leg up to see who I should spend my limited time on. If you don't like it then throw me in the lynch pile for Djo not doing anything worthwhile. But you don't get to call me scum without evaluating my reads this game. Like you can't expect me to be usual asshole geript when I'm already super behind and haven't caught up. | ||
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On April 08 2014 19:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey geript, why do you think scum ve claims a green check on you? Don't know. Don't care. Not going to waste time on wifom. | ||
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Palmer's in the scum pile because I rolled town. VE's role claim makes sense from my perspective. He could be lying here and be a role cop or something but I kinda doubt it. If he's scum I accept his pocket for now. And with that I can go to sleep 2 hours late. | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok , what if I call you scum based on this post you conveniently ignored? I'd call you a Wave and a worse player than me. People do scummy shit; generally people who do scummy things are town. But lots of times you can prevent Mislynches if you just look for reasons not to lynch someone too. Like LSB was super scummy in Handslaps too; I can accept that he's bad town. I just find the town evidence far more compelling than the not town evidence. It's that simple. Like people who are actively thinking about the game critically are almost always town. Like I haven't verified that HF was paranoid acting at that point but if it's true it shows thought which is towny. | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:23 Oatsmaster wrote: its not wifom though. Like wtf, you dont care to figure out someone who is linked with you? Feels a fucking lot like gf knowing that someone is town and therefore isnt lying. Asking me if VE would fake a green check on me for cred is 100% wifom and useless. As my high school physics prof used to say,"Let's not go into iffen land." | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Completely weird explanation that does not make sense at all. Why would you think like that???? Focusing on all the wrong things. Knowing my role, what it does and my role name I find that VE's role claim is believable. Doesn't make him town or scum. Like if VE is scum then other people are going to have to catch him. The only thing that makes me think he might be scum right now is that Marv is dead and those two read each other really well. | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Its VE kinda confirming totally possible lynchbait if hes scum. But no, you just think its as simple as ve claiming a green check on geript. No. I'm just saying that the role that he has claimed is a believable role claim to me. I really don't care what you think. If I had a gun I'd shoot you before HF(bomb might not be real), Amiko (claimed 3P), JAT (apparently also claimed 3PM) or anyone else. | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:33 Holyflare wrote: Tick tock Geript. I really don't care what you do, say you're going to do or whatever else. If you kill me, then that's your bad not mine. But I'm not role claiming now or ever. If I die I hope I get janitored just to spite you. | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote: So, let's get this straight. You think Sandroba is the same level of scummyness as Syllo (who was scum). You think i'm also scummy, you'd shoot me after oats, yet, when Sandroba tells you to sheep MY list you blindly go "ok, let's follow that!"??????? It's a starting point. I really don't care that Sandroba gave me your list instead of making one of his own. You can be decent as town. I just needed a starting point. Btw you've probably townread at least 1-2 scum so you should fix that. | ||
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On April 08 2014 20:56 Holyflare wrote: that's cool, i'll just find all the scum and you can blow up now! Like I was thinking about something else and flipped back to this forum on my phone and see you posted. I think," oh maybe he's made an insightful post I can think about or analyzed my reads at all." You come back with nitpicky bs after someone, maybe even you thought there could be like 8-9 scum in this game. Like the blues are super OP and the greens are blue. Seeing >5 scum in this game is in no way farfetched. But whatever, like if you want to be a dick about it then your loss if you're town. | ||
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On April 09 2014 03:39 Paperscraps wrote: From video mafia, your town meta is to be very self-centered in your reads. You read people based on if they reading your correctly or not. i.e. anyone who doesn't immediately call you town is mafia, haha. You are more disruptive as town than as scum, because you don't care if you are lynched. You will try to argue about minor details and derail the flow of conversation to suit your own purposes. Disclaimer: There is very small sample size of data to back this up. I haven't played a ton of games with geript. The self-centered part is true. As far as reading people based on how they read me, that's partially true but only true for specific players. Like if certain people scumread me then that's effectively a scumclaim in many games. Disruptive... meh. I don't really see how I've been disruptive this game but whatevs. Maybe you're not full of bullshit I don't know. | ||
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On April 09 2014 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Because you have been quite categorically shit. Says the person who says I'm going to live or die based on whether or not I claim my role. | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:15 sandroba wrote: Well geript we have just moved from a very busy day with enabled pms where we cleared a whole bunch of people and you are one of the few left that could be scum. It doesn't help your cause that your LSB town read is totally illogical and based on way less evidence than the reasons you said for him to be scum. Also the fact that you refuse to claim when we are close to figuring out the game is really telling. But as of now town people are shooting other more important targets, so I wouldn't mind telling the sk to shoot you so it speeds up the process if he decides to do it. I disagree that the LSB read is totally illogical. When I find points that people are actually thinking about the game, I don't like lynching those people because they're almost always mislynches. Do you disagree with that point? Why are you reading his as scum then? | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote: There's nothing to process because a) you're going to sit there and nitpick through everything we've done when there are hard reasons why we've reached the conclusions we have b) we don't trust you even remotely enough to share sensitive info with you Like I don't care about any of your "sensitive info." Hell I probably wouldn't even believe you if you did. But there's literally zero reason not to allow me to analyze your "hard conclusions" or whatever. It's like you guys are pissed that I joined a game and actually want to analyze it and play. Like I really don't get that sentiment at all. | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:35 austinmcc wrote: Also, instead of just dumping on this, can I ask, specifically, what "sort of play" you think this recognizes? Like, in the context of Holy posting and LSB posting at this time, what's the angle that you think LSB is coming from and is putting pieces together from? I fully agree that people can come from different angles and that some are pure townie. I'm trying to understand what you think LSB was thinking here. Most times, scum generally don't make insightful posts. It just doesn't happen. Like a lot of times those type of posts come from town. Prplhz did the same thing in cell where he made some pretty insightful posts on me but early I was blindly tunneled on him and Rayn was blindly tunneled on me so I didn't stop to actually read and analyze either properly. So when you see a good post like that, it's generally town seeking some sort of confirmation. Is it quite possibly a scum soft pushing a mislynch based on perceived behavioral difference? Sure. But I don't think so. Like he doesn't bother pushing that point at all and doesn't lump HF in his scumpile. I just think he's town who's wrong/bad/whatever. That simple. As for your promise/bet/offer/whatever, like I don't care if you show me ankle, your not hard pee pee or Marv's heterosexually challenged pee pee. I'm not role claiming. I will however be more than happy to read Joey. | ||
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On April 03 2014 12:14 Killing wrote: You wanted to know the reasoning of the WoS read but never asked for the robik one. I never said that you read them the same way. It seemed that you were curious about the WoS read but then you didn't really care about why he read Rob town. Your only read has been that you liked the smiley thing so I wouldn't agree than "that is more than most people here did". Don't really like this post at all. Curiousity is something I generally attribute to town not scum, so that's an odd heuristic he's following. On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote: Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia. I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it. Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post. This is one thing that I specifically find odd. Robert somewhat early on made a post about how Daniel would 100% write backwards as scum and would 100% keep up with it to keep trolling as scum. He finds Robert to be town, specifically comments on the Daniel meta but doesn't in anyway analyze Robert or Daniel in that light together. Not 100% but I'm pretty sure Robert was suspicious of Banks too somewhat early on (just as Banks was suspicious of Robert) but he neither explains the read or builds on Robert's read. Like that combination is really odd to me. When TL started playing Video, VE (i think was) made a very insightful comment in the postgame that many of the TL people weren't townreading each other and that that should be a good tell that at least a few of them were scum. In the least that they should be pressured to force out their alignment. I know that Joey playes Epic mafia a decent amount, but I do find it odd that he's focused so much on JAT early over reading the Daily people that he's accustomed to. On April 05 2014 01:20 Killing wrote: I know some people have made legitimate cases on why paperscraps is mafia, I'm just saying that people that are saying that is their strongest point are either dumb or mafia trying to get an easy lynch. I don't really like this post at all. He's never actually explained his reasoning for Daniel to be town and he's hard defending him without it. Like that's pretty major alarm bells imo. On April 05 2014 01:42 Killing wrote: Quickly on tehpoofter before I read amiko's filter, as town he's much more passionate about his reads. He's never willing to setttle for going along with the general town consensus but rather wants to push his own agenda. As mafia, he doesn't really want to rattle people and if he sees a ML, he'll just bandwagon onto it. This read to me as like scum happy that someone fucked up. It probably reads like nothing to you guys but it seemed like it to me. He states that he thinks that marv and rob could both be scum mates. I don't think banks could ever read rob as scum in this game. It's just so obvious to me that rob isn't mafia. I think he'd be with me thinking that rob is probably town. I disagree with the majority of his meta read post. I think if banks was town he'd be attacking marv harder here ( this was before marv found the paperscraps thing ) but he's kinda doing this friendly agree to disagree stuff even though he thinks they could be together. Then he votes on paperscraps and says we can lynch rob tommorow. None of this probably makes sense to any of you but just reading through tehpoofter's filter and then comparing it with his video meta, he reads scummy to me. I don't agree with his video meta on Banks here. Banks also isn't one of the players who "transfers over" to TL Forum well from video imo. I can see this post coming from either alignment Joey though. His push against horse/the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse is really odd to me. Like from what I've seen of Town Joey, he really doesn't give a fuck. He just pushes what he thinks are good lynches and gives ok reasons for them. Like there are lots of reasons to push to lynch Vayne other than just "claimed anti-town role" and "claimed horse." Like that's a super easy copout as scum. I can absolutely see this being a scum on scum push where you don't want to bury them but you 100% want to be on the right wagon especially when Vayne is not playing the game. It's also interesting to me that he votes Amiko over the "horses" that he fears especially when he wants to kill an anti-town claimed role. Joey's Iamp read comes completely fucking out of nowhere too. Like that's really, really fucking weird. Like after the Gum lynch he still wants to lynch Banks and adds Iamp to that. Like that's really super odd. Overall, Austin I don't really like your reasons for Joey being scum at all. Like assuming that roles are town or scum based on what they do is really fucking terrible. Hell I remember people trying to game you as town in PTP4 based on how you used your role and how/when you claimed it. Like that's really bad and it's really weird to me that you're not making any argument based on what he's done that makes him scum instead of his role makes him scum. | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:46 austinmcc wrote: Yes.Okeedoke on the claiming. So that post is...LSB trying to figure out HF, but not pushing him for scum? You think he's legit trying to learn about HF's play to read him? THIS ISN'T REALLY A TRAP HERE I JUST DON'T GET THE SAME SENSE YOU DO FROM THAT BUT I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR SENSE IS COMING FROM | ||
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On April 09 2014 05:00 justanothertownie wrote: I am normally not the person to agree with you but this is totally understandable. This game stopped being fun for me when pms were allowed. Who knows how/why people think they have cleared other people. There is no way for you or me to verify this or think it through for ourselves. You just have to blindly trust that people aren't retarded which is a hard and dangerous thing to do. I wouldn't have approached pms any different as town although in a game with this many roles it is evidently totally broken and townfavoured to be able to pm people. Apart from that a friendly reminder: Stop painting me as SK people. I am not. My goal is not to wreak havoc and kill as many people as possible/fuck town over yada yada. My goal is to survive longer than sandroba does and if that means I have to cooperate with town then I will do just that while hoping that scum finds a way to kill him (they won't shoot me as long as some retards seriously consider lynching me over them that's for sure). There is no reason for me to play anti town besides the sandroba thing. I never believe that people aren't retarded. As a default, I assume that people are stupid. | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:40 sandroba wrote: What else do you want me to say? The people who are not green in the list are people that we were unsure about or pretty certain that were mafia. I'm not gonna explain those greens because a lot of them involve roles and the way they were used, others involve hours of convo and planning together. I'm not saying that I think you are absolutely scum and need to die otherwise other people would be doing it, I'm saying you are a wild card and wouldn't mind 3rd p resourses being used to clear up the air. If you want to do something useful go at it and analyse the hell out of anyone you want, right now I just feel like chilling and believing we are on the right track unless something goes south and gives me reason not to. And btw paper looks very green to me after that post. Look sandro, this is an exceptionally bad reason to clear anyone. Like super exceptionally bad. Austin got a free pass for a while in PTP4 because of how he used his role. Hell I got a free pass in PTP4 for a while because I tried to kill Kita. In the end he endgamed town with some help of my superfriend Kita. I really don't get at all why everyone's cleared Kita. When I skimmed his filter before I joined none of it seemed scummy, but he's pretty slick as scum and tends to post less and post less good stuff as scum. Also, you should be a good enough player to recognize that when Town goes on autopilot, it's almost always exceptionally bad for town. Hell, last night I got out of a game where I almost won because as scum I made some good soft pushes against people at the right time after one scum partner got caught on day 1 and another refused to play and got lynched so we were stuck with 1 KP the whole game; then the third shit the bed with a Cop claim after he already had immunity. Town proceeded to go on auto and I proceeded to wiggle my way further down the "lynch list" because people were 100% not thinking about what I was actually doing. If you're town, get the fuck off autopilot. If you're town, stop associating roles and role usage with town. Like seriously, you're a better player than that and you shouldn't be doing that. | ||
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On April 09 2014 04:32 austinmcc wrote: Friendly Neighborhood Bird God Inquiry, Everyone who super loves and believes this 100%, please raise your hand:I believe most Grey roles to be balanced, especially in games like this with multiple counters, and apparently insanity and dragons and whatnot. I think, on the whole, Grey is unlikely to make a "Chaos counter to 0" role in this game, especially where the chaos counter is apparently bad for town if it gets high. It's there to loom and be bad and to make us use roles that influence the chaos counter in a certain way. It's not there for some townie to go "LOL ZERO NOW" and wipe out any decision making. At least, that's my personal opinion. heck, I'm more inclined to believe that, if this were a townie role, it would be balanced out by something BAD. Giving up a power, doing something negative, whatever, because things that are very good for town, stuck on townies, are often balanced. Look at all the "you have this passive and this active, when you activate the active your passive is gone" roles that have already flipped. Based on what I know, there are few "This is good and always good and will only do good things ever, enjoy!" roles, especially of the sort that are affecting counters. But I also don't necessarily believe it's a townie role, still think Killing is unlikely to be blue or green, and is more likely to be red. The bad kind of red. Geript, my offer stands. Based on the last couple pages, I don't think you're going to get a better offer. I don't even see anyone offering half an ankle, or to let you stare at their faces without a veil, or sit in the same room as them, or coyly engage them in discourse about the monarchy. That's fine if you have other stuff on him. But it's really bad play to make this post for him being scum without reiterating those other points. I'm going of 200+ as my day 1. I'm happy to read other stuff but I'm not going to dive for it. You guys have to help me out some. Either way, I'm off to work. I'll look back into hopeless and Keir's meta on him when I get back if I'm alive. I'll also give a full meta read on Kita but I really don't think he'll be caught if there isn't both meta evidence and in game evidence. People really shouldn't forget Keir's meta on him because Keir has really, really good meta reads. Specifically, he thought Iamp was town early on but said he didn't think he could keep it up as scum; I doubt Iamp was able to honestly (not going to bother reading that). If I die and am Janitored, I'm town. Know that I think a lot of you are doing really stupid things like going on autopilot and not stoping to analyze and re-analyze the game. Seriously go do that; go do that again. Don't in any way associate roles or role usage with being town or scum. In heavy blue setups, scum tend to pull off that type of stuff to hide and I'm really surprised that so many players who are "names" and so many players who I think (or more appropriately thought) were decent players were and are doing that. That's really really bad for town because it's going to mean you're giving green passes to people who don't deserve them. I might post a bit more when I grab supper, maybe not. It all depends. | ||
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On April 09 2014 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote: This is why you are being bombed. Thanks. Now I can just read his filter for nuggets of truth | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:51 kitaman27 wrote: Aren't you the resident syllo expert? Based on my experience, syllo feels uncomfortable posting actively as mafia. He hasn't been very open with reads so far so I think he looks the worst of the three. Usually I'm convinced he is town a few minutes into the game and that hasn't happened yet. With marv, I liked his defense of LSB because he seems like an easy target based on his poor filter and he indeed does often look terrible. His post to reads ratio is good enough for me that he seems town for the time being. Eventually I'm going to want to see some stronger reads/follow-up though. Holy maybe has a cool role? Takes the same view as I do on paper. No strong read yet. Just to point out. I'm not going to bother filtering Marv right now to see his defense of LSB. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:03 austinmcc wrote: And I really don't think that "he doesn't even know what the majority of it is used for" points in ANY direction. Like...that's irrelevant to alignment, imo. "Hey guys I used my role so I'm super town and it did super town stuff and now I'm super town kkkk. Also I don't know what a majority of my role is good for. It might be good for mafia! I dunno. But it's townie and I'm townie yum yum." If you don't know what your role really does, when it's useful, what it's useful for, AND YOU'RE BEING TRUTHFUL about your role, then how in the world can you argue that your role is townie and it's use is townie. You're claiming both to not know exactly what it does AND know that what you're doing is townie townie. Good point +1 | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:21 kitaman27 wrote: I don't like this post from iamp. Suggesting that Balla was trying to look good for suggesting a random lynch is ridiculous. In what world does Ball enter the thread, decide that he needs to do something that is going to make him look townie, and then the best plan is can come up with is voting paper for no reason remotely related to the the thread? That's his suggestion for appearance? I don't have the same issue that Foolishness does with the 1-liners, but the posts that he have made don't do anything. I'm willing to lynch him today. ##Vote iamperfection I take back my town read on Amiko. He has focused on two topics this game: paper's backwards writing and robik's immunity claim. When I point out that the self imposed post restriction is just as likely to be a town action, he doesn't attempt to convince me otherwise or really state his opinion of the matter at all, even though it is his only reason for the vote as far as I can tell. Hope has a 2 page filter and hasn't even commented on any events this game. He looks bad even for his standards. Killing has focused on a single player. Doesn't appear to be figuring things out. I'm still waiting on syllo and Keirathi to do something of note. I don't have the same problem with poofter and Koshi anymore so I won't bring them up. The "I might shoot mafia, but that isn't alignment indicative comment" sounds townie to me, even if it probably shouldn't. Waiting on Koshi for role reasons. This post has been forgotten. Don't forget it again. Maybe it's just as easy as killing Amiko, JAT and a few others but this is a really good post so read it again for the first time. | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:09 kitaman27 wrote: Are you aware of the identify of the players in your qt? In the past, GreYMisT has created roles where mafia provides input on the shot and tries to influence town to use kp in a certain way aka the igrok role from personality 2. If you guys have multiple shots, I doubt that all of them are town. Also, to the townies in the group, I would take the shot before the mafia has the opportunity. This too people. Scum like to get townread for shooting bad town. They're also happy to influence to to shoot bad town. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:18 Koshi wrote: Like somewhere JAT should kill Killing and not geript. JAT shouldn't be allowed to use his power. | ||
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He's not town. There's no reason to expect him to use it in a manner that's in any way favorable to us. He will only and solely use it to further his own purposes. There's zero reason to trust him whatsoever. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:24 justanothertownie wrote: Interesting. Why? And how will you stop me from it? Idk. Magic? Smoke and mirrors? Like I could just faminate you which I might even be doing. You can't really know. I can say that you not doing as I tell you will end poorly for you. | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote: Maybe he wants to become an esteemed minion? His wincon is to get to endgame obviously and his targets ded. If he is lynched tomorrow he can't get to endgame. I also promise to JAT that I will lynch him if he doesn't kill scummer tonight. Sorry. This is fine in my book. Why is everyone tow reading you? Also, would you knight me so I can be Sir Famine from now on? | ||
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On April 09 2014 06:54 justanothertownie wrote: SANDROBA! Will you promise not to lynch me if I shoot geript? You can have your cake or you can eat your cake. Like you can't do anything else. Your fields are barren. | ||
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On April 09 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote: Yeah but he is sworn to town now. I might send a minion to GreYmist to change his wincon to town if he is a good boy. Will need some serious Chaos then though. Who knows who knows? JAT don't DISAPPOINT!!!!!!! I'm fine with this plan. | ||
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On April 09 2014 07:16 sandroba wrote: @jat just don't shoot anyone, I'm not 100% on either killing or geript. I'm going out to dinner. Pretty awesome shit awaits tomorrow. I'm also fine with this plan. | ||
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On April 09 2014 08:22 Koshi wrote: Actually. Geript can you defend button pls? I think scum can't perform kill and defend button. I am not sure but it makes sense. Otherwise not go for mass button pressing N1? So all people that are defending button did not perform a NK. No. I'm doing what I find important to do. I have neither seen nor been given any reason to defend the button. As far as I'm concerned, it's a troll game mechanic designed to get town to not use their night actions. Maybe there's an outside shot that it turns green roles into actual vanillas but I don't care about that. We don't need roles to win the game when we can just scum hunt. | ||
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On April 09 2014 10:25 Dandel Ion wrote: yo if a town viggi is still vigging around geript would make a pretty swell corpse just sayin going to sleep, level of the skipped day bothering me: pretty much 0 are you even trying scum Look you can either help me or kill me. I really don't care. I had good reasons for calling him scum and a bad reason for calling him town. Shit happens. I'm not going to get bent out of shape about coming to a wrong conclusion when you guys keep on withholding information from me. Quite frankly, had I known or expected to come into this game with being threatened the way I was despite a green check on me, to be treated the way I have despite missing idk 118 hours of the game, 200 pages and a pm land circle jerk... Had I known all that coming in I never would have replaced in. Quite frankly Wave, I'm doing the best I can and I don't appreciate you acting how you are. I don't care that you or anyone else thinks I'm scum. I personally think it's wholly BM of you to not in any way try and actually figure out my alignment. I think it's BM of you to respond to me like this when I've put in time and work and effort to make this a better game. I think it's wholly BM of you to be treating me like this. You can either help me get up to speed and on the same page or I hope that one or both of us dies. For the most par, no one has listened to anything I've said and most of you have been a jerk to me. You keep on complaining about how I'm not caught up or on the same page as you and I'm trying to be as nice and honest as I can be. If you aren't going to bother to think of me as anything but auto scum then quite frankly I hope that you lose because of it. | ||
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On April 09 2014 11:00 WaveofShadow wrote: It for the record, my issue has nothing to do with you being 'caught up' or not. There is no way I expect you to read a 200 page game. What I DO expect though, is for you to know who has died and who hasn't and what their alignments are. There is no way as town you wouldn't know that info almost 24h into when you replaced in. There is no way you wouldn't do a basic fact check of the OP if you were going to write about kita, for example. To me it looks like you are deliberately feigning ignorance/stupidity, and now 'righteous anger' to deflect those of us who know what is going on. Plans will continue as they are, geript. I see no reason to change them unless we as a group decide to. You go ahead and do what you want, rage or not. I knew Rayn's role was sweet and that Gum got Mislynched. I saw that IamP and Syllogism flipped town. I don't in anyway care about who's flipped town. I care about finding people who can let the Puppy loose to wreck havoc on scum. Who has flipped town doesn't wholly help me in that. Keir's filter was super town Keir when I read it just prior to replacing in. If you want to circle jerk in circle jerk pm/skype/irc/QT/whatever land then feel free to. But the fact that HF lied about his role and died is in the slightest telling that there might be an infiltrator in pm land but hey if you want to try and autopilot like you did in Cultural and lose the game then don't let me get in your way. | ||
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On April 09 2014 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote: I know how that is. I used to be a wubbybumpkins but now I'm not so sure. You still are, you're just exiled to the couch for now. | ||
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On April 09 2014 11:14 IAmRobik wrote: Really? Did you "find an item" like Paperscraps did? I have no clue what you're talking about. | ||
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On April 09 2014 11:33 justanothertownie wrote: Am I one of those people? I didn't get any info back. If I am not than someone did something roleblockey to me. Probably means geript is scum or scum was at least afraid of me (-> Killing). As long as rbing me wasn't in your great town masterplan of course. How dare you suggest such Blasphemy. I demand the heretic repent before we feed him his own feet. | ||
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On April 09 2014 11:59 WaveofShadow wrote: As far as I know you weren't roleblocked by any of us. Maybe I should call you Jon Snow. He is a bit cuter; probs not though. Jon likes a red head so I guess I'd be Jon then since you're the redhead. That makes my snooglewoogle Ghost. I'm ok with that. | ||
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On April 09 2014 12:05 justanothertownie wrote: Seems like it was geript. Listen here. You can eat cake or you can eat nothing. Do you understand me? like I'm a total badass; my sword is totes made of valyrian steel. Probs not good to cross me. Just keep on doing what you're doing. | ||
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On April 09 2014 12:07 austinmcc wrote: So I'm marv's cat and geript's direwolf. And, although I know I need not remind you, a Bird God. It's ok. I killed the bird guy and I think I can wort into it's feathers. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote: OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was. Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM! | ||
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On April 09 2014 13:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Unless somebody else has some idea of what 'faminate' means, I don't see how I could provide you with a generic anything without knowing myself. Well so far you may have seen a bit of what it's like to live in barren land. Vicariously of course but whatevs. Just a generic: here's who we want to kills, here's who we think has scary powers, here's who we think is using evil devices, here's who we think is doing evil, here's who we don't trust and here's a specific reason why we don't trust them in general. Just give me enough to allow me to make an informed decision and I'll do what I can to make the best decision I can both off what you've given me and off how I gnaw a bone. Nothing more nothing less. Like I don't care what roles or powers you guys have but I do care about using my abilities to the best of my abilities. | ||
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On April 09 2014 13:13 WaveofShadow wrote: The list is still the list. One of your fellow horsemen (if it's not yourself, of course) is a decent start imo. I don't think VE has any excuse at this point for doing dick all the entire game aside from a cop check on your predecessor, any thoughts on that? His role as I saw it explained makes sense to me and he's change so much I can't read him. Is he even playing anymore? Not is he alive but is he playing? VA is totes on my kill list, same for Oats but I don't think oats is a horseman iirc. Me/VE/VA/someone else. | ||
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On April 09 2014 13:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Dude. Rumble OP. And have you SEEN that skin? I have. It was very disappointing. | ||
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You're at like 2.5 out of 10 when I'm at 9.5 out of 10. Just think about that first fave and the +gold item I used to stack on said champ before DP or Yam ripped me a new one for doing that. It's kinda like that second newbie game. I was 100% truthful but it looked like complete bullshit. Like there's a meaning behind what I'm saying but you have to think about it in the direction I'm spinning you. | ||
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On April 09 2014 15:35 WaveofShadow wrote: That first 'fave?' Did you mean game? lol you know I'm terrible at this sort of thing. I need Rayn to translate and then someone else who plays LoL to translate what Rayn says. I don't honestly remember the item but I remember the champion. Again at least if the earlier part of this you're referring to what I think you're referring, we can probably use it to confirm you, though I'm not following everything you've said since, nor do I think it's going to be particularly consequential. But I have a not-so-lovely feeling the only reason you're attempting this is because you're afraid of being killed tonight. No I got my read on you. That's what I care about. If you're going to call a shot on me then whatevs. I've tried. Like that's the main part. I still don't trust your partners though but I'm not quite sure who exactly they are. | ||
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On April 09 2014 15:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm really enjoying this. Try again. No I tried. Didn't you enjoy our third game together. Just like Jesus I saved you. Then of course I let you die because I'm a fickle bitch and some hot chick caught my eye more. But like I can't really explain more and I'm disappointed you didn't get the candy land reference. | ||
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On April 09 2014 15:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Easy to find that out, but it might be better that way for now. If you could choose anybody, who would you want to give your nutter butter to? Butterless nutter remember. Well I'm a support player. Like my carry isn't really doing shit. I could just be a boss and morph to old me to Q the mid opp but I think the jungler's keeping him in check. Plus I have a ward in lane there. But it's late and I'm hungry, sadly there isn't a fast food place that serves cream of wheat. It's just like grits and if you're lucky yummy stuff. Those are my targets. | ||
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On April 09 2014 15:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah that I'm not so sure about. Has your carry been roaming at all? Not that I know of. I think he's waiting for his team to re spawn. Remember what I said about Lux. Tends not to Q her allies; she'd rather W. Usually though she drops R on an opp. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:04 WaveofShadow wrote: I THINK I'm ok with that but you really should have waited for the rest of the team to be ready before you initiated. How exactly do you think I can confirm it when I'm not looking at your screen? Me initiated I was the one waiting at the Nexus for directions.. What you talking bout Willis? | ||
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Nah, nah you're reading that wrong. At 6 I get R. I think I hit a player with R. I definitely didn't misclick my ult. Like I'm bad at LoL but I'm not that bad. Come on, give me some credit. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Has your team given you the opportunity to go back and buy or has it been impossible for you to get out of combat? I wouldn't mind going for dragon but I haven't been focusing on that part of the map and I don't know if the rest of the team has vision of it. Teamfights are always necessary at this part of the game though. Nah, haven't been back to buy. But I don't think I have gold to upgrade even my Relic Shield. But like I've got stacks and stacks of biscuits. Well I think those weirdos on the islands call them biscuits but us normal people call them cookies. Well dragon was locked down if that's what it is. But that might not be a dragon. Like I thought early on. People call me crazy just like in LoL but I have pretty sick reads on him. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:20 WaveofShadow wrote: And if you didn't EWQ then what did you use to hit them? Well I love my ult, it's like the only button I can push ever. Plus my keyboards broke. But it's like a magical keyboard; VelKoz gave it to me before I left. So my R is all I need. Like it does everything for me. | ||
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Don't hate me for who I am. You should love me for what I am. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Where did you get the candy? Where do you get your snickers from? I don't truly care I should say. I'm just curious you see. You will do as you may Just don't give it to me. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Be very careful geript. Look, just because little children in africa starve because of me, you shouldn't hate me. Like I'm not as sexy as War nor as solemn as Death. I just am what I am. Isn't Shakespeare who said, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." Just think of me as a rose; while I may not be the most pleasant when I see you, everyone likes me. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote: My snickers are pretty delicious. Can't decide if I want to eat one though. I'm not TOO hungry. Have you ever seen that movie True Grit? There were definitely people who deserved to go hungry in that movie. Sadly no, I have not seen True Grit. But I'm raised in the south, quite familiar with grits but my parents are northern and I prefer tradition northern breakfasts. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh you mentioned killing a bird earlier but I didn't see any feathers. That's a surprising one. Lux's boyfriend liked bird watching as I recall. My parents enjoy bird watching but it's boring to me. Like you're going to have to explain this target. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh don't get me wrong. I'm actually pretty ok with Hitchcock movies. I was just curious about your anti-bird propaganda. Just an observation I've picked up. It's nothing I feel exceptionally strong about as I only bird watch sporadically; often months apart. But I saw some birds tonight when getting off work just as the dark storm clouds were rolling in. The clouds didn't like them. The birds seemed a bit odd to me. Lux's boyfriend is more of a expert in birdwatching so I'm somewhat ok deferring to him. Like my hesitation is that those birds look similar in my eyes to two other games that we've shared together and they've been cardinals both times. Like you have more eyes to look at things and I'm sure I've missed stuff, but like that's my viewpoint. | ||
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On April 09 2014 16:59 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm only aware of one bird, and he's flown pretty far south. Where is the other one? Well I'm not going to have to fight you am I? Like if it's not a fight with me you want then maybe you can choose a fight for someone else. Especially when the the lumber jack comes to with his chainsaw, the machine will kick back how it's not supposed to. | ||
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On April 09 2014 17:02 WaveofShadow wrote: My friends and I enjoy eating waffles when we get together for book club. I think we may have discussed harper in passing. I usually study at Waffle House but I don't get much done there. Can you explain what I'm doing wrong to not see the reference. Asimov is an ok target too but the most of his books are pretty heavy. I can't carry that much myself so I prefer to do have someone do that for me. From what I've seen. My preference so long as the jungle is well warded would be to carry breakfast to Harper Lee then Isaac Aasimov in that order but I can be swayed. Hitchcock isn't really on the list to bring anything to unless you give me better focus on him but I can be swayed. | ||
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On April 09 2014 17:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Well so long as your friends don't mess with mine I think everything will be ok. We're studying different things, you see, and if we were to meet up while studying different things I think there would be too many distractions and one or both of our groups could fail the exam. Maybe we can meet up when breakfast has been cleaned up. I'm not sure who you think my friends are. I'm not even quite sure who my friends are. But like I don't give a fuck about any of them. Lux seems fine to me but that's with the aforementioned asterisk. Why don't you get that I'm Kid Rock. I'm a Cowboy baby. | ||
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On April 09 2014 17:38 Palmar wrote: Geript you should do exactly everything WoS tells you to. He is the master, you are the servant. Naw. My name literally means dog but I have no master. I can be fed to get me to play nice but otherwise I'm just a stray. Personally I'm severely tempted to raid your cupboard. | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:44 Palmar wrote: hmm syllo, analytical, reasonable. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Care to explain this post Palmer? | ||
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On April 09 2014 19:55 sandroba wrote: @geript palmar is town. he is trolling in thread but not in pm land. I'm positive of this. So he's scum in thread and not in mystical pm land. So you're saying he's scum. | ||
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On April 09 2014 22:44 austinmcc wrote: No or possibly yes-ish? We got a dead scummer. Koshi took the actual shot, I used a different action last night, so he would have been the killer if LSB had an item/items. Koshi also should have used a particular item or had a particular item that I assume you guys know about, and shot LSB + guarded button. The yes-ish bit is that (1) you should now be part of the group, unless I was blocked or something got in the way. Nobody has shown up today, and I've got a bunch of posts in all caps now wondering where you are and why you're not speaking. (2) Unless anyone has a killing machine repair kit + de-radiationator, we are unlikely to be able to pop off any more mafias I'll look for one of those. I might be able to find one. Perhaps your means of communication is bugged. | ||
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On April 10 2014 00:31 austinmcc wrote: Okay. I'm not sure whether my action went through or not. Based on you not getting anything and the counters being where they are, I believe that I got blocked or something. You should have received something and the radiation counter should have decreased, and my lovely Scum Shooter should not have broken. So i THINK I was blocked or delayed, unless someone else raised the radiation by 2 (cancelling my lowering), in which case the numbers work out for the problem to be on your end, and not on mine. If there's a way to confirm that you were actionable-upon last night without revealing anything, I'd be interested, because it would give me a small amount of insight into how the counters should have moved/actually moved. List here snooglewoogle, if you start getting googly eyes at anyone else I might get angry. Plus you didn't snuggle with me last night like you promised. I couldn't sleep enough. | ||
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I know for a fact that Palmer has played Dota since this game began. Palmer is therefore scum. #rekt | ||
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On April 10 2014 02:05 justanothertownie wrote: I you want me to do anything at all you better explain this. Also I find it hard to believe that you protected anyone AND did whatever you did to me. Look some of what I've said to Wubby doesn't have anything to do with my role. If you don't do anything tonight, then you're 100% safe. If you do something tonight you have a 25 or 50% chance of dying dependent on whether or not I target you again. I want you to shoot Palmer. I'm equally happy if you just do nothing. | ||
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On April 10 2014 04:10 IAmRobik wrote: I'll start working on a code for the two of us to use so that we can be the cool kids on the block and everyone else can be liek "wahhhh, that's so unfair." To be honest though, we'll only be discussing the weather and how big our e-dicks are Only people with e-vajayjays would talk about the weather. | ||
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On April 10 2014 07:03 justanothertownie wrote: Doesn't matter if he gets it if he is the only person that could possibly get it. If you are including LoL games you played together and similar shit like your favourite champion then there is absolutely ZERO chance that anyone else gets what you are saying. First off, I don't think he gets it as is pretty obvious by most of his responses even though I've like made it completely obvious and he's being him. Second off, I will not compensate for your laziness; hell, most of it is googleable if you have any sort of sense. Like I hate the townie or "townie" circle far, far more than you do. Enjoy what you can, if you don't want to try and read it or anything else then don't. | ||
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On April 10 2014 07:14 justanothertownie wrote: How am I supposed to google your favorite champion or what one of you did in a game you played together? I'm not going to spell everything out for you, but it's pretty simple actually. But if you're interested, my lol name is geript too. | ||
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On April 10 2014 07:39 justanothertownie wrote: You are not reading the thread, sir. Pot meet kettle. | ||
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On April 10 2014 08:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Doesn't need to be observed. Have enough info. When The Puppy isn't fed, The Puppy doesn't grow. Unlike others, The Puppy doesn't bite the hand that feeds it. | ||
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On April 10 2014 09:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript what did you do? I saved. Everyone else takes damage. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:15 WaveofShadow wrote: That's the only thing you're wrong about huh? Never mind you calling me scum. KK. Your thoughts on geript atm? I think he thinks I'm famine but little does he know I'm the Brain. Now where's pinky. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:18 VayneAuthority wrote: If you're scumteam is honestly VE oats and me you are either scum or garbage tier so take your pick, even you can't honestly believe that is not a laughingstock list. Its like you are deliberately trolling, which I get, amusing and whatnot. all I have under geript is the VE green check, nothing more to note really at this point in time. Hey... I had a hooker under my desk 2 nights ago. You should add that to your list. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar is a town-aligned Merchant. So there you have it. I don't believe this claim. Palmer has been playing Dota. Therefore he is mafia. Please hold your head before it explodes from my knowledge bomb. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:32 IAmRobik wrote: man. I can't believe that would be a real check. Also, VE, your first check didn't say anything about geript's role. You just claimed he was green/town: Not to mention, I THINK Geript claimed he was blue (not positive on this one). Something fishy with the checks. No I ride the short bus, I'm yellow. | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote: et tu geript? Fucking thankless job herding souls around. Whatever, you're doing fine without me. I can eat a lynch for the town. Did you not get told about the secret win condition either? | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not trolling with you geript. If you want to talk about the game then fine, but unlike Wave I'm not willing to indulge your little bullshit. That was like 10 pages of my life I'll never get back last cycle. I'm not really trolling you though I'm trolling them. Like I don't have great reads on you but I've thought you're town for a little bit. You're lux btw if you want to have some fun with that. | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave. scummy scum scum. ##vote jat This is a lie. | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:20 Paperscraps wrote: Firekeeper sounds kind of hot to me and ash maiden sounds like a fair lady that could use some lotion. Dat's racist | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote: It doesn't proc every time? Ugh. What about the night before? I didn't get anything either time. But the snickers can fall in a lot of people's laps if he had a snickers. | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave. scummy scum scum. ##vote jat Claims JAT has to be scum, kills Wave. Like ezpz | ||
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On April 10 2014 13:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok? I dont see the point of lying about that but ok The real question is what haven't you lied about? | ||
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On April 10 2014 10:52 Killing wrote: I am the paranormal investigator. I check people to see if they are of this world, if they are not, I get some shit about them. Here are my checks. Things that could not be of this world are basically anything ( dragons included, pokemon, digimon, angels, demons, shit like that ) Palmar, nothing strange Oats, is a wizard Amiko: nothing strange I also came across this information Gumshoe, biblical figure BH, alien Foolish, nothing strange Rayn, nothing strange LSB (if he appeared as himself), monstrous humanoid iamp, fallen knight Conclusions: No difference between blue and green. No difference between mafia and town. The only thing that i've gleaned is that all mafia returned as "something" and typically it sounds dark and scary (monstrous and fallen knight). If anyone has any information that pertains to my role, we can talk and whatever but otherwise I think i'm just gonna guard or disable the button because I'm useless afaik. L2R | ||
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On April 10 2014 14:48 Oatsmaster wrote: How about I give you another wubbybumkins geript? How about you just die (in game of course). | ||
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On April 10 2014 14:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol dude really come on man. Why would I do any of that as scum? Can you use your brain for a second and think about what I had to do as scum to pull this off? Yes. Yes you would. | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave. scummy scum scum. ##vote jat This was the point at which Oats was caught lying. Considering these actions are impossible without some other major craziness going on. He the proceeded to kill confirmed town. He's been caught red-handed and was a 100% lynch. At that point he's going to do what he can to help his team win. Lynch it with fire. | ||
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On April 10 2014 16:18 Palmar wrote: Why is confirmed town hero wave dead? Oats did it. | ||
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On April 10 2014 17:35 Palmar wrote: ##Vote Jat Serioiusly Palmer? | ||
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On April 10 2014 18:16 Palmar wrote: Geript is adamant about being obnoxious. Between talking in code, calling me mafia for no particular reason, and in general refusing to co-operate with people he knows for a fact are town. I rolled town. You've played Dota. It's ok though, you're not high on my "people that need to die (in game)" list. Like there's at least 2-3 people in front of you. Like I'm fine with killing JAT but that's only if everyone swears to policy lynch the fuck out of Oats tomorrow. Like there's some theoretical alternate bizarro world universe where Oats isn't scum. But in no way am I willing to believe that when my meta read on him says he's scum, when everything I know about this game says he's flat out lied multiple times and when he's taken it upon himself to actively kill obvious town. Like I'm a cowboy and do my own thing but I at least fucking recognize that I need some direction for all the shit I've missed. I've said it a thousand times already. I am not going to be a robot for the town circle to command. Give me the best info you have that isn't "state secrets" and I'll make the best decision I can. You can be pissed at me all you want for not "being a good little soldier" but you guys really aren't doing much of anything to give me a leg up. If you don't like it, then I can just be a cowboy. I prefer to play support and be a team player but you guys have to be team players too. | ||
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On April 10 2014 18:41 justanothertownie wrote: Oats isn't even a policy lynch. He is blatantly obvious mafia. Well certain people have called him town all game long... | ||
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On April 10 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote: The problem I have with lynching Oats is that I believe his claim. Don't get me wrong, I want him to die. He lied about his roleclaim to me. However the whole thing about him figuring out WoS was in orthanc and killing WoS because of that seems overly complicated for Oats to have thought of it on the spot to get an excuse to kill WoS. I don't think scumOats would believe for a second he could get away with it. There are more things at work here. If Oats is telling the truth, who do you think JAT is? I wonder who would roleblock someone by putting him in orthanc So my current suggestion is that we make Oats take poison. JAT has already claimed anti-town afaik (sorry if I'm wrong on this, not really reading the thread). So we need to kill JAT anyway. If JAT flips what I'm expecting him to flip, we should consider giving Oats antidote. It's important that JAT's flip matches Oats' description of his night actions. If not? We let Oats die. If Oats lies about taking the poison and somehow stays alive, we just lynch him the next day. Oats, I am expecting you to go along with this plan. I will be so mad if you put your own stupid agenda in front of town again. You're taking the goddamn poison and you will like it. It's a punishment for your blatant stupidity in shooting WoS. No Palmer. JAT was roleblocked on N2. Unless he has some magic anti-role locking ability to wholly avoid my ability OR unless he got bus driven with someone else (no other roleblocks claimed), no other random shit like that then JAT wasn't able to do anything N2. That's why I'm calling Oats a liar. Oats also should've claimed being roleblocked last night. He hasn't; as far as I'm concerned he's a liar liar pants on fire. Like if you don't believe me then whatever. But between the lying about shit that's happened and lying about roles and lying about other shit and paying even less attention than someone who joined on pg200 and gives no fucks and killing an obvious townie. Like I don't see a reason to kill JAT first. | ||
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On April 11 2014 03:28 strongandbig wrote: sandroba used the 24-hour-delayed dayvigshot I gave him on blazinghand. I had announced to the thread that I gave Sandroba Gumshoe's power for the cycle. BH announced that someone had put a 24 hour bomb on him. So really anyone could have figured that out. No, Oats is scum because I have modconfirmation that I was not roleblocked last night. I get my one-shot powers refunded when I get roleblocked. Neither of the powers I used last night were refunded, which means they went through. I roleblocked JAT, and I also made any actions he took target me instead of him. There is no way he visited anyone but me last night. Now, it is possible that JAT was busdriven, so I roleblocked and redirected someone else. However, if that was the case then Oats would have tracked the same person I roleblocked. Still no way he gets a result that JAT visited dandel and roleblocked wos. No, oats is confirmed lying. ##vote: oatsmaster That sure is a lot of words for saying what I said. Like people need to sheep me more often. Hell like I called this shit a while ago. But of course, I'm scum for not role claiming. Also, I don't get what your guys fascination is with VE's balls. I mean, I know he has super sexy hair; I know he has a daughter who is cute as a button and seems to be as sweet as buttercream icing. Like I get that you all want children of your own that are just like his, but you should probly be milking his rod instead of crushing his balls. I made something for you VE. | ||
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Like I really don't get why Palmer believes or believed Oats more than me. I don't get why Palmer trusted anything Oats said before or after he killed my WubbyBumpkins. Like we must not let my Wubby's death be permanent (sorry BH I <3 you and all but you're not my Wubby). I shall not let anyone attack my minions to death and get away with it. SnoogleWoogle I shall defend thy honor while my WubbyBumpkins serves his time in the doghouse. | ||
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On April 11 2014 02:29 Killing wrote: To town, Do you think I should continue checking people out or should I just start doing button duty? I'm personally interested in what JAT and Amiko actually are. Maybe this game was solved way back when. Could give us extra info of whether or not to lynch them. Me personally, I'd love to see VE check Killing, Austin, Hopeless and maybe even Dandelion. I would definitely prefer checks that give some sort of information to none. I doubt all of scum will return as not of this world. My guess is that at least 1 of the remaining scum is immune to Joeyms check and maybe 1 more is immune to VE's check (probly Palmer). | ||
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On April 11 2014 05:22 IAmRobik wrote: So you want VE to "check" everyone who is almost certainly town. That's interesting. When do you want us to find scum, geript? I'm less sure than you guys that those guys are all town. Even if Amiko and JAT are 3P, it's pretty normal for them to return scum/mafia to checks so that would be pointless. Who would you want him to check? | ||
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On April 11 2014 05:30 strongandbig wrote: that mspaint floating vagina looks like it took a lot of work It was. I'm better at drawing dicks. If you'd like I could do an mspaint of you | ||
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On April 11 2014 05:39 IAmRobik wrote: Daniel (paperscraps) and VA and to a slightly lesser extent Joey (killing). Although with 1 cop already dead, I'm less likely to believe a second cop, who didn't check who he said he'd check and whose 2 checks are on 1) someone who could have been modkilled 2) someone who was confirmed town in the thread by like 5 of the top town players that have ever towned 1. checking an inactive is a great check. It's the same reason why you vig an inactive. If you can't read people, having a way to read them/clear them is peachy keen. 2. You have to look at it from his perspective. Palmer hasn't done shit this game. His filter is useless. As of late, he's been useless a lot as scum. He's been playing Dota (scumtell). I'm town (scumtell). Like you may say that he's obvious town to a lot of people, but that's really not how VE works. Plus VE, like some other people, has been kept out of the loop on a lot of things. Like when you look at it from that perspective, it's in no way an unreasonable check despite what any of you or the "circle" thinks. | ||
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On April 11 2014 06:25 IAmRobik wrote: I don't understand how you can be both a role cop AND have another ability to transfer shit from one person to the other. Even Banks was nerfed in a way that he could only check people who voted on him, without some consequence occurring. Banks is always nerfed as town. Why is this a surprise? Like I think Greymist built some mechanic around the 4 horsemen that none of us (in the least none of the town of us) know about. | ||
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On April 11 2014 06:25 IAmRobik wrote: I don't understand how you can be both a role cop AND have another ability to transfer shit from one person to the other. Even Banks was nerfed in a way that he could only check people who voted on him, without some consequence occurring. Plus you know the whole, "Till Death do us part" thing. Seems like a flavorful thing GM could add. | ||
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On April 11 2014 07:18 Paperscraps wrote: Palmar's argument to Oats possibly being town has some merit too it. Logically Oats is a great lynch, but something in my gut says some of things Oats is saying he actually believes to be true. Conveying conviction on a forum is hard to gauge, but Oats has been relentless in his posting. Regardless Oats is a detriment to town discussion because of this incessant posting and has ulterior motives to kill Saruman for his win-con(this part of his claim I believe to be true), so killing him will be good for town even if he isn't scum aligned. This is a waiting game right now. We have a strong town (circle jerk) and just need to eliminate anyone who isn't in it. The one thing I am wary about is the lack of opposition. It seems after day 1/beginning of day 2 we have been set on a singular course and are just following through with it. Not much has been in the way of us running a train on mafia since that point. This isn't necessarily bad, but it speaks to at least 1 scum being in our circle jerk. On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave. scummy scum scum. ##vote jat This post is exceptionally full of fail, here's why: On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave. scummy scum scum. ##vote jat Look at the timeline: N1 Killed Keir RB'd Fool N2 Killed Koshi RB'd Koshi N3 Killed Dandelion RB Wave First off this doesn't compute. Foolishness left a message to town for D2. That strongly indicates he wasn't RB'd before he died. Second, I've claimed an RB on JAT for N2; that means that either I'm lying, my action somehow failed, he is somehow immune, JAT got bus driven (which would likely also bus drive the item Oats claims to have used) or other shenannies. His simplest answer there is that I'm lying about the RB target for N2; he hasn't proposed that at all. Like if he's town with this information that is the clear next progression. On top of that, S&B has claimed on RB on JAT on N3 when I claimed to Arab Oats. On top of all that, if he has this information, why didn't he claim it in Thread on N3? Like that's shit that is super important for town to know because it hammers JAT as a liar and scum and in the least heavily implicates me as a liar and scum. Like none of Oats' story makes any fucking sense at all. On top of being a proven liar, he's also flat out lied about his role to people (which while non-alignment indicative by itself IMO) isn't a point in his favor. Plus he fucking killed obvious town and my Wubbybumpkins. The story Oats has sold smells like a steaming pile of shit; that means that Oats ' story is most likely a steaming pile of shit and not a virgin who got a little too excited on her wedding night. Your thoughts on Oats being honest have zero merit whatsoever. That's why we're lynching Oats. Plus because revenge. | ||
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Oats is lying. Oats is trying to cover up his bullshit with even more bullshit. Oats is scum Oats needs to die now. Are there any rebuttals to the points I've made? | ||
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On April 11 2014 08:46 Dandel Ion wrote: That's a lot of words for what smarter people have already said, you should just sheep me without question. This is my lynch thank you very much. I was the first to call him out on his bullshit and I've wanted him dead for a while now. | ||
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On April 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote: no we're not lynching you until tomorrow The only way I get lynched this game is if some idiot (or scum) uses some vote rigger or emperor type power on me. You guys aren't going to lynch me because I'm town. | ||
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On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave. scummy scum scum. ##vote jat One last minor thing. How often do townies who are 100% sure they have scum red handed say they'll vote for someone and then forget to actually vote for said someone. | ||
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On April 08 2014 09:22 Killing wrote: ##But the Future Refused to change: LSB People seems to have forgotten about this, like it seems like Joey is in the town circle. I personally don't see This as a beneficial aspect of Joey's role given how he's explained it now. I also don't see a point to him faking to do this on day 2 as town. On April 10 2014 10:52 Killing wrote: I am the paranormal investigator. I check people to see if they are of this world, if they are not, I get some shit about them. Here are my checks. Things that could not be of this world are basically anything ( dragons included, pokemon, digimon, angels, demons, shit like that ) Palmar, nothing strange Oats, is a wizard Amiko: nothing strange I also came across this information Gumshoe, biblical figure BH, alien Foolish, nothing strange Rayn, nothing strange LSB (if he appeared as himself), monstrous humanoid iamp, fallen knight Conclusions: No difference between blue and green. No difference between mafia and town. The only thing that i've gleaned is that all mafia returned as "something" and typically it sounds dark and scary (monstrous and fallen knight). If anyone has any information that pertains to my role, we can talk and whatever but otherwise I think i'm just gonna guard or disable the button because I'm useless afaik. This is how he has last explained his role. Most of what he has given is obvious and can be gathered from flips. Much of it could be gathered from the thread or PM land. Given that Palmer seems to have assumed Oats was a PGO it seems a bit odd that Joey and the 'circle' don't seem to be collaborating on this point already. Other than the other things that I've already pointed out that are odd about Joey (which HF +1'd in his dying post), this combination is ringing alarm bells since he also seems to have been continually bullshitting about what his role does. How does a Paranormal investigator in any way affect the radiation level or what not. Like this shit really isn't computing. | ||
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On April 11 2014 10:08 strongandbig wrote: oh and also plz explain your thought process behind dayvigging someone you just claimed you saw a scum member roleblock Thank you for catching that. Not sure how I missed it. | ||
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On April 10 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote: The problem I have with lynching Oats is that I believe his claim. Don't get me wrong, I want him to die. He lied about his roleclaim to me. However the whole thing about him figuring out WoS was in orthanc and killing WoS because of that seems overly complicated for Oats to have thought of it on the spot to get an excuse to kill WoS. I don't think scumOats would believe for a second he could get away with it. There are more things at work here. If Oats is telling the truth, who do you think JAT is? I wonder who would roleblock someone by putting him in orthanc So my current suggestion is that we make Oats take poison. JAT has already claimed anti-town afaik (sorry if I'm wrong on this, not really reading the thread). So we need to kill JAT anyway. If JAT flips what I'm expecting him to flip, we should consider giving Oats antidote. It's important that JAT's flip matches Oats' description of his night actions. If not? We let Oats die. If Oats lies about taking the poison and somehow stays alive, we just lynch him the next day. Oats, I am expecting you to go along with this plan. I will be so mad if you put your own stupid agenda in front of town again. You're taking the goddamn poison and you will like it. It's a punishment for your blatant stupidity in shooting WoS. Hmmmm. I was going to write a big case on why I thought Palmer was scum based on this post alone and why I thought that Palmer had some sort of gf item. But when I stopped to reread this post again as I found it to quote it, it does make actual sense. ##unvote Oats here is exactly what we need from you: 1. A clear and explicit explanation of what your role does 2. A clear and explicit explanation of all pertinent items you have used to gain said information. 3. A clear and explicit explanation of when you received said information from you role/items | ||
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On April 11 2014 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok ok fine. im actually a 3rd party survivor assassin. Saruman. My target was gandalf. To aid my survivorness, im lynchproof. I win if I get to endgame and gandelf dies. everything else was lies. Beautiful lies. Never mind. Fuck it. Kill him. | ||
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On April 11 2014 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Well I cant get lynched so suck it geript. After all the lies you've told, nobody will fucking believe that. | ||
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On April 11 2014 11:25 Hopeless1der wrote: On the off chance he is actually unlynchable, I'm moving my vote to JAT and assuming that majority mechanics will ensure 2nd most votes will be lynched if 1st most is unlynchable. This is an ok thought, but Oats play in no way lines up with him being 3P, survivor or lynch proof. | ||
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On April 11 2014 11:25 IAmRobik wrote: I'd lynch Amiko over JAT This is a very good point. JAT has shown that he's willing to work with town and has abilities that are useful to us. If the second leader does get lynched Amiko is a more preferential lynch that JAT IMO. | ||
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Confirmed Town Confirmed Scum (Oats is being treated as confirmed scum) Confirmed non-Town + Show Spoiler [Big Spoiler Alert] + On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0 On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (1): Holyflare austinmcc (1): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB austinmcc (0): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77 LSB (0): Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27 Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, marvellosity (2): Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27 Holyflare (3): sandroba, LSB (0): Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, yamato77 (1): kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (1): Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, Holyflare (2): LSB (0): Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): kitaman27 yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, Amiko (3): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (6): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (16): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50 Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (17): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Reduced Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority Amiko (1): IAmRobik yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref I'm not going to analyze the day 2 votes because from what I remember of the day and there were essentially two caught scum which in many ways makes any sort of analysis pointless. However there are a few things to note. First, the Paperscraps wagon is exceptionally interesting. Somewhere around Hour 34, this wagon gets started With roughly 10 hours left in the day there are 2 scum and 1 confirmed non-town on the wagon. Six hours later, the wagon adds another third scum and a second confirmed non-town. Of these, only the two confirmed non-town jump off onto the "winning" wagon by the end of the day. This heavily indicates in my opinion that mafia had no preference between the two wagons because both were town. Second, there were two wagons started on confirmed scum on day 1. Scum didn't voluntarily join either wagon at any point. This means shows a mentality that scum aren't likely willing to bus their teammates on day 1. Additionally, the confirmed scum votes we have for the most part on earlier on the wagon instead of towards the middle or later on the wagon. These become important points later on. Third, the Amiko wagon is exceptionally interesting. Kita starts it at around Hour 42 when there's a scramble to get off of the paperscraps wagon. I find it interesting that other than JAt no other non-town elements are happy to jump onto this wagon. This wagon seems like it would be an easy mislynch to help get going if it were Town or not-Scum especially when Kita, Marv and Keirathi are at least tacitly support it. Considering Amiko's pretty early vote on Paperscraps and scum's reluctance to help feed this wagon, I think Amiko is actually lying about being 3P. It's not just the fact that the role claim seems interestingly weak for a 3P survivor given the setup, but seeing as how many items town seems to be able to get/produce/whatever, this looks far more like a scum role than anything else. I'm guessing here but I think Syllogism was probably distancing himself from Amiko; it seems like he knew that his number was up and there's little reason to not to try and separate the out to try and win. Especially so when Amiko as a newer player is far more likely to have an excuse to survive until late game. Fourth, the Dandel Ion wagon or more appropriately the lack thereof. Dandel Ion and IamP have in interesting back and for on Oats where he says: On April 04 2014 00:22 Dandel Ion wrote: Ok Oats is scum because he's trying too hard to be calm and rational, when he just isn't calm and rational as town. That's basically it. This is quite an accurate meta read on Oats. It's also roughly 3 hours into the game. Like it's really odd that Dandel knows about this meta, Oats follows this meta the whole game, Dandel pokes at him off and on throughout the game for it, yet he never pushes Oats as a wagon at any point OR votes for him. Additionally, no confirmed scum ever join in to vote for or push Dandel's wagon. Dandel moves his vote from Kita to Blazinghand to Holyflare to rest on Gumshoe. I know that there are seemingly a lot of people who think Dandel is town (HF did). I don't know what's happened behind the scenes and I haven't played enough with Dandel to have a meta read on him (my understanding is that as scum he tends to give up and ask to be bussed ASAP IIRC). I would just like "people in the know" to reconsider him somewhat if this strikes a chord with you guys. Fifth, another person I'd look at from the vote count is Austin. Usually experienced players tend to throw their vote around as a weapon to pressure people or as a show of confidence that they've caught scum. Austin is a good player and maybe he's been in a funk as of late. Him not voting until very late is odd to me. Add that to the fact that I don't like his push on Killing. No I don't think Killing is a bad target and is a reasonable lynch from what I've seen and red, but I don't like how he's pushed Killing specifically especially when, now, where Killing seems to have claimed something else entirely Austin seems to have forgotten much of this. Specifically, he's pushing on Killing for reasons which I don't particularly find scummy one way or another when there are things that I find (and someone agreed upon) to actually be scummy. Town Austin I can usually understand his points and follow reasonably, but not being able to do so on top of Austin voting late is really starting to bug me. Sixth, for the random stuff... I don't think the votes say much about Hopeless (noted lurker), Killing (not enough relevant meta imo) and a few other of the semi-questionables. Strongandbig looks like he could be in decent scum pile on slots; I'll need to read him later. It clearly doesn't show anything at all about me. I think, considering VE started on scum and hopped around a few times, it shows that VE is more likely to be town because town in general jump around more with their votes than not. Otherwise, I feel like I've wasted the past 4 hours trying to color and type this up and another 1-2 thinking about it when I looked at the end of day vote count at work. fuck my incompetence and sleepyhead | ||
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Hopeless prefers JAT; Robik and I prefer Amiko. Other thoughts? | ||
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On April 11 2014 18:54 Palmar wrote: I want JAT to be second, that's all that matters. If there are specific reasons why you think he's scum instead of Amiko I'd love to hear them. Voting patterns seem to indicate Amiko as more likely to be scum but I honestly haven't read a word in JAT's filter. | ||
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On April 12 2014 01:01 Dandel Ion wrote: No I want the jatty I want to lynch geript when Oats flips scum, he had that odd case on oats after the lynch was already more than guaranteed that added absolutely nothing, and before and after that too he made it pretty apparant that he just wants to be credited with the oats lynch, as if he did anything for it. His actions are of a scum trying to milk a buddy lynch for towncred. He also acts like I'm not confirmed town and is softpushing me which also means he must die but mostly it's the above. You're not conf town. Get over yourself. For the most part you've peaced out since D1, your filter is completely worthless and you're claiming to be confirmed town. Good joke Dandelion. | ||
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I would rate the risk as my little pony level. | ||
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On April 12 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote: So that's fucking dumb I can't see a non-town being immune to lynch always. Like that'd be really OP. | ||
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On April 12 2014 10:45 austinmcc wrote: Does this = "I geript, believe oats to be town"? Regardless of the answer, I am spreading the good news. Many of your friends and neighbors are already listening to the wonders of ABBA. Do you, snoogle woogle, believe in the healing power of the almighty ABBA? No. Oats scum (mafia) imo. It's a matter of nailing his teammate (s). As for ABBA, no clue what you're talking about. | ||
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On April 12 2014 11:30 austinmcc wrote: Language, mister. If this is true, you interpreted Robik's statement in a way that is funky to me, much different than my own interpretation ("this is fucking dumb" = wtf we just wasted a whole cycle on oats without doing a bunch, and now he's just lynch immune at the end and we no lynch? Bollocks") And "partner" IS STILL JUST WEIRD. YEAH WE KNOW THAT SCUM HAS MULTIPLE PEOPLE BUT WHO SAYS PARTNER. YOU DO. YOU NEED SOME ABBA IN YOUR LIFE. There's already 3 scum dead. Like when Oats is scum assuming JAT and Amiko are 3P roles then it's there's at most 1-2 other scum alive. Fuck it. Snooglewoogle enjoy getting spooned. | ||
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On April 12 2014 11:41 austinmcc wrote: Specifically Geript, it's both good for town AND good for fun if you don't do something negative to me tonight. Don't care. If you're town and have suspected killing off and on for a while, why haven't you built on or analyzed my various points on Killing? | ||
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On April 12 2014 12:08 Acrofales wrote: More erratum: the chaos counter is at 0. There will be an EVENT tomorrow. Hmmmmmm | ||
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On April 12 2014 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Does ABBA stand for anything Austin? Father | ||
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people should 100% be reevaluating Austin. | ||
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On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote: geript, question. If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day. Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities. KP is scum/2 right? So saving IamP/ syllogism doesn't change anything I don't think. Like syllo's getting shot/lynched again 100%. IamP probly that way too. That doesn't save KP even for a night IMO. Now. I think it's likely just a preserve numbers thing. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:30 austinmcc wrote: My b then, but I think the point behind my question is still there. Why does scum save oats over doing nearly anything else. This is such a dumb worthless question. Like maybe his partner can't use it on himself. away you, now I'm super duper scum for saying partner again. Like there's lots of potential reasons. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:33 austinmcc wrote: I don't know how many folks scum have. IF they had an even number, then losing 2 means losing 1 KP, but losin 1 means not losing KP (KP rounds up). So saving EITHER would mean a bonus KP that night IF mafia has even number of members. Why save oats to preserve numbers? Again, why not burn it on a townie or someone who likely has more stuff in the bag than oats. ALL uses of "x can't be lynched and you can use this right before lynch" cause chaos, screw up a lynch, and give you another night cycle. Pretty much ANY use of that power "preserves numbers", either by saving scum or by giving you NKs and probably putting the lynch the NEXT day on a target of you choosing. If that person is town, you essentially draw 2 mislynches out of town on the SAME townie. I don't think mafia is in a position to make that play. Like oats is super fucking scum. Maybe there are long 5 scum and 2 left. Like that's my point in calling this exercise worthless. I have specific thoughts and expectations of how the game is. But it isn't like we can realistically prove any of that. Like why in the fuck would a good player like you waste time on this? | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:36 austinmcc wrote: Nah. My dumb questions look like dumb questions. This one's real. Doubt it. Why not just say what you're thinking because like I don't see any reason for you to be poking here. I feel like you're just wasting my time because you have your own theory/knowledge/pinky swear/whatever. | ||
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What I do find particularly interesting about this claim is that my vote count analysis points to bot Dandel and Amiko being scum and JAT being 3P(acts more independent/like town in voting patterns). Like Dandel's here defending Amiko which is odd to me because if he's 3P survivor her death means nothing to him. There's just a lot of weird shit in there and it bugs me so I hope if he's not scum that scum shoot him and no one protects him. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote: Green: (Which is again what I think and I'm trying to understand why Geript thinks that oats does NOT do the lynchproof bit, someone else does) Blue: Possible, but chaos has been 1 and > 1, so this would be a radiation thing only. Possible. No color: It may be "like" that, but it ain't. It's really simple. I don't think I've seen a GM role where they get to do 2 things in one phase. Like we can't used roles and defend; or at least I can't afaik. My last GM role had a couple of things but I couldn't use them both at the same time (sadly because I totally would've done a double lynch and vote rigged Slam/BH to die). Like it's not impossible, but I just don't see it. Like if Oats were 1 shot lynchproof, I imagine that that would be some kind of item, which he 100% wouldn't have had. Like that's too weird as a 1 shot passive imo. So therefore Oats didn't do it. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:45 austinmcc wrote: You thought about past games, about actions per cycle, and why you think someone else did this. But it doesn't seem like you thought "why would they do this with oats", and I'm trying to figure out if you didn't think that through, if you believe something different from me, or if it looks like you're just making crap up for unknown reasons. Offsite I've seen scum pardoner role a bunch of times. Every time I've seen scum pardon town (except for once), it's always ended up fucking town. That first time, it didn't fuck up scum because it pulled a vigi shot. Plus, I can't think of a game where mid-late game, Scum ever pardoned non-scum. Like ever. It's just not worth the risk. Sure if Oats actually is 3P this is a decent time to pull that out but then we just get JAT to kill him and if JAT doesn't, then we kill JAT too. So I'm not seeing the point. Either way, I'm still pissed at you and you're still not making sense so I'm gonna be the big spoon. Snooglewoogle you can be the small spoon mmmmk | ||
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On April 13 2014 05:05 strongandbig wrote: What are people's current thoughts about VA and paperscraps? I feel pretty much blank about both of them, which I don't like very much. Daniel is kinda town. VA I'm not sure about but I'm calling 100% #YOLO townread on him. So I'm not interested in either right now. | ||
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On April 13 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote: WHERE THE FUCK IS SANDRO! On April 11 2014 00:46 sandroba wrote: really ve, if you are town I'm going to be so pissed off, i don't even About 52 hours afk apparently. | ||
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On April 13 2014 05:14 austinmcc wrote: VA a solid scum suspect. Paperscraps slightly less so, just on looking over D1? He picked up votes from 3/4 of our scummers (working off oats being scum). He ends the day with 3/4 scum votes on him, which doesn't say much I guess but you'd think they might move off once things are pushed elsewhere if paper is a scumbuddy and gumshoe ain't. LSB's vote and posts on paper especially make him feel a little unlikely. Syllo and oats don't do much for me either way on paper, but LSB's looks unlike a scum bussing. Or you could just read the reasoning I gave for why it would be highly unlikely that Scraps is town. Like it's not just the 3/4 thing it's that they were on that wagon with 10 hours left in the day. Considering their preponderance not to bus, that's really weird for them to bus a teammate there when it's quite possible that another wagon doesn't form. | ||
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On April 13 2014 08:00 strongandbig wrote: And we seriously need more out of va and paper scraps, I have them both as ??? Like at least the 3p are invested The 3P being invested isn't a positive sign IMO. | ||
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Did anyone roleblock JAT last night ? | ||
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On April 13 2014 10:39 Amiko wrote: It's kind of weirdly phrased- Like, if someone roleblocks whoever Robik hides behind, it would theoretically roleblock Robik. But, if Robik is roleblocked, he wouldn't be hiding behind them. I think there was something like that in back to the future, I forget. It inverts actions, so I read that as meaning that someone protecting his target would kill him. Hey geript did you get any items last night? if so a few things make sense. At first I didn't get any. Now I have a bunch if items. Waiting on info and stuff. | ||
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On April 13 2014 13:37 Oatsmaster wrote: I didnt shoot anyone and my gun disappered. Why guys, why. we should totally be lynching jat not me I agree. We should be lynching JAT instead of you. We should be shooting you in the face. | ||
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On April 13 2014 17:39 Oatsmaster wrote: shoot the currently only confirmed townie. Lulz. I didn't know that shooting confirmed obvious town makes confirmed obvious town. Let me get my gun. | ||
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The big problem right now is that people have fucking given up on a game when town is super ahead. Like come on let's finist strong. Daniel, I would like to see you give more information. | ||
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I would also like to point out that cops have failed to submit checks before. Palmer (as an assumed paranoid cop) decided not to send a check in before. I know that VE isn't claiming that in this case, but honestly I can see a world where pissed off and detached VE doesn't send his action in to 4 people and just sends it to like Greymist or something. Like there should be good reasons for people to call VE mafia well outside of "failing to send in a check." | ||
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On April 13 2014 10:01 Acrofales wrote: EVENT: Today you have an extra vote for one of two choices: Tomorrows lynch will be decided by an elected mayor, OR Tomorrow’s voted player will have their role name and alignment announced in the thread, instead of being lynched. It is now day 5. With 15 players alive it takes 8 to lynch. The day ends in [unparsable timestamp format] Like unless the host is lying to us in which case we will lynch him | ||
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On April 15 2014 16:08 Palmar wrote: If he was mafia he could've just claimed the check on Oats as he'd have known Oats' role name anyway. I don't think this is bad logic. But Oats had already claimed his name and was already confirmed not town. Plus VE has apparently checked out of the game so I don't know if he even would've thought of that. | ||
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Look at my family photo. I'm so sexy. | ||
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On April 16 2014 11:02 sandroba wrote: Basically it comes down to this: sandroba snb paperscraps killing geript? vayne? amiko? ve jat Now here is the deal. jat pretty much has to be sk at this point, reason being I held the ring for a lot of nights and he never took a shot on me. Also he went ahead and shot into town tonight, I think it's a safe assumption. The reason for him acting now is probably town being constrained on lynches and not able to act. Also amiko may very well be mafia, not doing what he was suposed to do to prevent town from getting back the res item. VE pretty much has to be mafia, not producing a single useful check in 5 nights he has had to act and being a complete non presence in the entire game. I agree that we make me and snb both top positions. Now on priorities of who we should kill, definitely jat first since we need to reduce the kp urgently. Ok. Here's the thing Sandroba. You are giving nothing here. You're town reading people you've been town reading since D2. It's time to explain those reads. On top of that, you have me as a big question mark. How is it that you still haven't bothered to try and read me. Why are you scum reading VE? Like explain anything here. | ||
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On April 16 2014 10:40 strongandbig wrote: i counterpropose we put sandroba as top and me as second I don't trust Sandroba. He hasn't done much and has checked out of this game. Austin said in the Cult Of ABBA QT prior to initiating me that: "Sandroba is a GIANT LURKER as scum and a... Good townie as town. He's doing jack all this game and that makes me dislike his butthole." I agree. There's been nothing that Sandroba has done that really impresses me. He's not really doing shit now and he's a phenominal player who can easily solve the game but isn't. Plus, he's not dead. Plus, Keirathi's meta read on Syllo (re:not trying to decipher Sandro's alignment) applies equally to sandro (not really trying to figure out Syllo). Like come on town... Let's finish strong. Don't puss out. Today we kill JAT. Like nothing of what he's done makes any sense to me right now. After that, IMO we look at Sandro VA VE and Killing. If you're town, be active. Be town go back and read. Let's discuss thoughts. Etc. I totally came in and Prome'd up this thread. I deserve to win this one. Come on here folks. Let's finish this out strong. | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:39 justanothertownie wrote: Let me show you guys what happens if you lynch me: Right now the situation is probably: 4 town, 3 scum, 2 3P You lynch me -> 4:3:1 Scum gets 2 nightkills -> 2:3:1 Amiko wins with scum - town lost, gg. Does anyone still think lynching me is a good idea? Well congrats - you are scum then. 4:3:2 unlikely. 7 scum starting? You pretty clearly have killed someone last night. Probably random kp from either side still out. I'm guessing we may have something as simple as 6:1:1. | ||
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On April 17 2014 00:44 justanothertownie wrote: Like, I can't put it any simpler: There were 3 kills. Even if you assume that I am responsible for one of them that leaves 2 for the mafia (like they had the nights before). The easiest explanation is therefore that there are still 3 scum left. Unless someone wants to claim one of the shots. Why can't 1 be from town? | ||
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On April 17 2014 02:12 justanothertownie wrote: Are you dense? EVEN IF I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE OF THE NIGHTKILLS YOU LOSE IF YOU LYNCH ME. Jesus. Also, you are lying or misremembering. The night you roleblocked me 2 people died. The night S&B rbed me noone did. Nope, you're right I'm misremembering. I RB'd Oats the night there were no kills. But S&B still claimed a RB on you then IIRC. Minor difference. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:28 justanothertownie wrote: This is getting ridiculous geript. 1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once. 2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me. 3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost. 1) No. I haven't read your filter. I don't need to. You have somehow failed to kill anyone that you've been asked/told to kill. N2 I roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N3 S&B roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N4 you supposedly kill oats who is immune still. N5 you did nothing? That's bullshit. Last night you killed someone; likely Dandel because he wanted to kill you. If you killed Palmer or Austin then you definitely didn't have permission to kill them. The thing is you've either been lying about being roleblocked or lying about who you've been killing. I find the latter far more likely. So because you're playing anti-town, then you're most likely scum. It's possible that you're not, but unlikely. 2) No, my reasoning expands as time goes on. You've been 100% worthless. I 100% think you're lying about not attacking last night. The deaths don't add up. I thought you were lying about Oats RB'ing you, apparently he was just immune; plus your role claim (3P survivor that requires to kill insane people) makes 0 sense. Like that's a super odd, hard to believe role especially when your KP has only targeted town aligned players. 3) WTF? Are you honestly trying to spout this shit? No, 1 KP was from you. I didn't RB you, afaik no one else has claimed an RB on you. There were 3 deaths when there have reasonably consistently been two for a while now. So no, there aren't 5 scum. At most, there are 3 scum. Quite frankly, we're at the point in the game where the people who we've slowly been putting of, need to be lynched. You're not town and you're not helping so we kill you. It's that simple. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:33 strongandbig wrote: I mean, jat *could* be scum, i just think ve is a safer bet for it I disagree heavily. Killing is a far better bet than VE. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:42 sandroba wrote: To be honest I have you as townie geript, but I'm just afraid that you might be a hero mafia that is putting in a lot of effort. That's mainly because of the LSB shennanies and now you are somehow trying to sell me as mafia. If you can guarantee jat is roleblocked tonight then I'm okay killing VE instead. The whole deal about jat is the following: He is either telling the truth, in which case he didnt try to kill me on the couple nights he wasnt rbed and amiko is lying to us about his ability. In that case if jat manages to kill me tonight we possibly lose 2 townies plus jat leaves the game which means tomorrow is lylo is VE isnt the last scum. If he is lying and VE isnt the last scum, we can possibly lose 2 townies and town is put into kingmaker position tomorrow chosing between who wins amongst sk or mafia. What I'm saying is that if jat can't be rbed we need to kill him today. As for explaining my reads I wont bother as those are pretty self explanatory if you look at the events of the game. The only one I could possibly be wrong about is killing, but he's kept his story straight and I trust the meta read from paper. So bottom line is if you can rb jat we kill ve, otherwise we kill jat. Look I'll be honest on the LSB thing. I didn't think he was mafia. I think there were lots of points that pointed to that, but I thought his paranoid post was pretty insightful. I hadn't read the thread (HF specifically) to know if he was actually being insightful or just scum shitting on town. It was a decent read based on the information I had. No on corrected the "HF wasn't ever really paranoid" point so I stuck to my guns on it. Like I read pretty fast, but I can't pick up 200 pages pretty quick and I never bother trying to read HF because, quite frankly, as far as I'm concerned he's best called scum on PoE rather than things he's done. Either way, I'm pushing you for solid reasons. You've been pretty inactive as of late and you really struggle to keep up with activity/wanting to play as scum. You hadn't, as far as I can tell, been trying to decipher Syllo's alignment. IIRC, you had 1 question towards him (i think re:paperscraps read) and 1 comment on him (i think re: not doing shit other than random stuff then scum). Austin feels/felt the same way. I can't share his QT and I don't think I can invite anyone to the QT. As far as being "hero scum," I have a really hard time doing that. Like I really, really struggle to post as scum. Right now, I'm doing what I have been doing the whole game: trying to find scum and pushing who I feel is scum. I would've prefered VE to check Killing like I asked him in thread and in QT, but the night before I had asked him to check austin. I don't hate the austin check per se. I don't think VE is scum; I can be wrong there. Here's the thing, I think Amiko is 3p. I personally find it highly unlikely that there are 3 3P in this game and if there were, then it's almost assure that there's only 5 scum. I think it's much more reasonable to lynch JAT and roleblock VA or VE rather than going a different path because I can see world where both VE and VE are town and because I can see a world where JAT is scum (despite my vote count analysis). Here's specifically what I want from you Sandro. I want your reads and your reasons for your reads. Moreso, reasons for why you find people to be town. I have a hard time right now seeing Killing as town. Paper has a townread on him and I trust Paper, but I'm not sure on it. | ||
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Confirmed Town Confirmed Scum Confirmed non-Town + Show Spoiler [Vote Counts] + On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0 On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (1): Holyflare austinmcc (1): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB austinmcc (0): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77 LSB (0): Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27 Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, marvellosity (2): [s]Palmar, Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27 Holyflare (3): sandroba, LSB (0): Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, yamato77 (1): kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (1): Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, Holyflare (2): LSB (0): Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): kitaman27 yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, Amiko (3): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (6): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (16): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50 Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (17): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Reduced Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority Amiko (1): IAmRobik yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Ok so this is updated now. Here's some points that weighs in your favor (sandroba) on VE being scum. 1. No one jumped on the VE wagon. Minor but fair considering how scum tend to be trying to pile on to push weak lynches. The problem with this is that Palmer was on and off the wagon pretty quick. Even still he got a free pass from flipped scum. 2. VE ends up on the "right" wagon at the end of the day. Three confirmed scum end up on paperscraps; one on Banks. It's unlikely that they'd end with 4 or more scum on paperscraps. 3. Oats soft pushes the VA lynch all day based on VE's points. VE never really makes a good case on VA being scum 4. Oats soft defends VE at points. 5. VE never really explains any read/reason for LSB. Points in my favor: 1. Oats jumps from BH to VA to Paper. If VE is scum, he's essentially jumping from a back to back scum vote to another back to back scum vote. That's pretty odd to me. So yah, I can see a reason for killing VE. The problem is that if he's town, then we will still need to lynch Killing and JAT. Killing is the only other person, imo, who could find out Wave's role (wizard). I still think he's town. I can't really explain it. Call it feels if you will. That said, if we're going to lynch him today, then I want a 100% promise that we just call it #YOLO lurker lynch and then proceed to assume he's town and scumhunt from there. | ||
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On April 17 2014 06:16 Killing wrote: Wow geript, you really wanna kill me. That's not cool bro No, you're just on my list of people I want to kill. JAT is at the top. You, Sandro and VE/VA are in there too. I'm pretty sure that only 1 of VE/VA can be scum. Looking at Oats filter, that's more likely to be VE but I don't think that's in any way definitive. Things are just kinda in flux as I read more after doing my online class work. | ||
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On April 17 2014 07:18 getmoript wrote: The point of vote count analysis isn't to hammer scum. It's to find a good person to look at for objective reasons. VCA is never definitive. Qff | ||
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On April 17 2014 07:44 strongandbig wrote: ve isn't a lurker lynch. if anything its closer to a policy lynch for having the least believable dt checks in the history of the game. still if you want to scumhunt from the assumption that we lynch ve and he flips town, then i'm down with that. what do you say to paperscraps' assertion that killing knew his role and would have killed him if killing was scum? That's an odd but understandable reason. Like it doesn't work if both are scum for obvious reasons. Iirc he's had other reasons. I'd rather have solid reasons I can point to. | ||
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On April 17 2014 16:17 getmoript wrote: Aust was kinda hazy at points about his order in QT. He prefers GE, Killing and VA (mostly in that order). He thinks the JAT/Sandroba stuff will sort itself out. I just find everything he does anti town and think he's lying. Like he had to have killed someone last night. What's his purpose? Kill Palmer because Palmer wanted him dead? Dandel's the only other reasonable option if JAT is 3P. I just don't see a reason for him to shoot from a 3P survivor standpoint. That makes no sense whatsoever especially when he supposedly has to kill Sandroba. It's all just too convenient. The more you think about the claims the less any of it makes sense. Qff | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:29 strongandbig wrote: Blergh with the bus driver having already flipped though ... Geript will you claim who you roleblocked each night? Also sandroba I'd like a full claim from you as well, complete role plus night actions. I'll claim all my night actions if anyone hasn't been paying attention: N1: target sandroba, one KP protect plus give him the power of the most recently lynched player (gumshoe) N2: target oatsmaster, make any roles targeting him unstoppable (no rb/medic/etc) plus make myself unable to be affected by him plus find out how many one-shot abilities and items he had N3: target jat, roleblock plus make him target me with any actions that go through the roleblock N4: target VE, make him lovers with his target plus make me and him start with 1/2 of majority of votes N1: nada N2: Target JAT (no known items) N3: Target Oats (no known items) N4: Target Amko (5 items) N5: Target Austin (got roleblocked somehow) | ||
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Sandroba Geript S&B JAT Amiko VA Killing Paperscraps Maybe it's just amiko. IDK. I feel pretty lost as I've called scum town :/ Whats worse is that it was for apparently bad reasons. | ||
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On April 21 2014 07:49 VayneAuthority wrote: if you really think its believable that almost the entire scum team pushed me and I bussed my entire team then feel free to go through with the lynch. Can't say I will be held accountable. Not posting a lot isn't my game as scum anyway. Actually, this is pretty reasonable. Let's just kill JAT then. It's quite possible he's the only one left. | ||
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My actions so far: N2 JAT--HF/Koshi died--Mafia 2KP + roles N3 Oats--No one died -- Mafia 2 KP + roles N4 Amiko--Robik/Hopeless Died--Mafia 2 kp N5 Austin (roleblocked)--Austin Palmer and Dandel died--Mafia 2 kp N6 JAT-- Daniel died -- Mafia 1 KP Ok, so let's assume there were 4 mafia alive when I started the game. So N2 I probably didn't affect KP at all. N3 I possibly affected it. N4 I probably didn't affect it. N5 I did not affect it. N6 I likely didn't affect it. IIRC JAT didn't claim killing any of Austin/Palmer/Dandel correct? | ||
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Here's what's going to happen. I'll try to announce my action right before the deadline. It's going to be on one of JAT/SAndro/Killing unless have I have any other real breakthroughs in thinking between now and then. | ||
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On April 22 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote: I heavily heavily doubt that VE could carry out KP as an unrecruitable traitor. Right... forgot about that. I'll thinka nd reread between now and then. I'm going to do what I'm going to do. We'll see, but I right now I'm leaning that it's Killing and one of either S&B or Sandro. Not at all sure which. Kinda hard to explain, but I think VA is town. After rereading amiko, I think she's 3P again. I'm considering VA's three 3P in 30 people heuristic. I'll figure it all out. Amiko. I want to be very clear. Please steal from me tonight. This is my gift to you. | ||
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On April 22 2014 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Whatever I dominated. Ever since you started playing Video mafia, you've stopped caring about playing forum. I don't get it. Like you used to be a goddamn amazeballs player and now you just come off as average. What happened? | ||
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On April 22 2014 12:27 VisceraEyes wrote: geript don't get me started. Even until my death you knew for a fact I was town. Don't tell me about how horrible my play was please and thank you. From now on VE I'm reading you in reverse. If I think you're town, I'm going to try to lynch you. I'm always wrong about you. | ||
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On April 22 2014 22:45 syllogism wrote: There were a ton of confirmed townies to kill and your protections weren't an issue since you had to claim them. We tried to kill you on the night with no kills, but, I assume, Geript RBing Oats blocked both of our shots. Oats was supposed to RB you and shoot someone else while Sandro was supposed to shoot you. I told you I was Jesus. I saved. | ||
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On April 22 2014 21:58 Koshi wrote: iamp lynch syllo lynch LSB shot basically. Towncircle was killed last. Who was in it btw? Palmar/Sandroba/WoS/SnB/Dandel? Holyflare in the end? I find this hilarious. The town circle included 2 non-town members. | ||
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On April 23 2014 07:49 Keirathi wrote: GG fellas. Thanks for hosting! Thanks for letting me sheep you. | ||
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