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On April 04 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why.
How has anything VA done townie?
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On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.
So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now?
You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time?
Why are you being so weird oats?
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On April 04 2014 21:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why. How has anything VA done townie?
VA in shit-tonne of his games never does anything townie as town. In fact he's known as being more "townie" and reasonable as mafia. You know this.
Claiming, unnecessarily, an anti-town role is actually somewhat townie. But no, apart from that he hasn't done anything townie. Sadly this does not make him mafia. You know this too.
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On April 04 2014 21:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why. How has anything VA done townie? VA in shit-tonne of his games never does anything townie as town. In fact he's known as being more "townie" and reasonable as mafia. You know this. Claiming, unnecessarily, an anti-town role is actually somewhat townie. But no, apart from that he hasn't done anything townie. Sadly this does not make him mafia. You know this too.
That is actually untrue, VA has started playing not well as mafia.
No, its not townie, he wants you to think its townie but in actual fact its not.
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On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now? You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time? Why are you being so weird oats?
Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare?
And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum.
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On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now? You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time? Why are you being so weird oats? Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare? And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum.
I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role?
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On April 04 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
Well I am not doing anything special today.
you're right, you really aren't.
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On April 04 2014 21:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now? You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time? Why are you being so weird oats? Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare? And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum. I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role?
What, that its townie rather than absolutely fucking claiming scum?
Duuuude.. No.
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I don't quite understand under which angle people are actually defending VA's play.
Elaborate pls.
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On April 04 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:49 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
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because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him
there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now? You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time? Why are you being so weird oats? Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare? And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum. I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role? What, that its townie rather than absolutely fucking claiming scum? Duuuude.. No.
Why is it claiming scum? Explain to me very simply.
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On April 04 2014 21:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I don't quite understand under which angle people are actually defending VA's play.
Elaborate pls.
Nobody is defending VA's play but nobody is saying it's scum play either. Apart from oats who is convinved VA is the only scum and that he claimed scum and that everyone on paperscraps (who he is now voting for) is scum.
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Also dandel, why have you called yamato scum all game but not really pushed that or tried to get people to see it at all and only really mention it when questioned?
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On April 04 2014 20:29 marvellosity wrote:sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscrapswhich was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie
JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.
Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.
Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.
hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.
I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post. Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote:
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If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.
I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.
You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though. There's actual insight and thought here. This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers.
It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"?
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Because that would be pointless
Why do you insist on wasting everybody's time by talking to them about what you wanted them to do because in your opinion they should do that instead?
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On April 04 2014 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Because that would be pointless
Why do you insist on wasting everybody's time by talking to them about what you wanted them to do because in your opinion they should do that instead?
because to me asking about people's motives about why they do something is not a waste of time
i fail to see how lynching scum would be pointless, unless of course your goal is to not lynch scum?
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You are all a bunch of spammers. Reading now - any important things to look for?
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It's pointless because he won't be lynched today.
Your question have nothing to do with figuring anything out, they're completely irrelevant to reads, you just go around yelling "HEY YOU SHOULD DO X INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING"
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On April 04 2014 21:58 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 20:29 marvellosity wrote:sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscrapswhich was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie
JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.
Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.
Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.
hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.
I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post. On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote:
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If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.
I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.
You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though. There's actual insight and thought here. This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers. It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"?
Without spending my time looking at a lot of austin filters, no. I've just played a lot of games with him and for quite a long time it became a tradition that I would be suspicious of him on D1 for not doing anything. I guess Rockband springs to mind? And although austin is a pretty experienced player, he still got lynched as town on Day 2 of PyP:LoL with only a 4 page filter.
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