Presumably if dandel had hatched he would've become the third party planar dragon? And maybe joined the scumteam? but it seems like there are no dragons in the game at the start so it's weird that sandroba would be able to kill them.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 18 2014 22:37 GMT

#5894

one thing is, on the night with no kp all of the medic protects and protective items were coordinated through our qt except paperscraps and robick. so that makes me feel like there wasn't scum in the qt.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 18 2014 23:01 GMT

#5898

also @amiko on second thought I'd prefer it if you didn't do your item shuffle thing, but instead stole from one of the following list of people: killing, va, paperscraps, jat.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 19 2014 16:55 GMT

#5918

I'm probably the most active I've ever been

I'm just not a very active player

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 19 2014 16:57 GMT

#5919

Also if geript is scum doesn't that make it unlikely he's still roleblocking you? We already flipped one scum with unlimited roleblocks

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 13:50 GMT

#5938

Paper said killing knew his role since day 2

It's unlikely scum let paper live if they know his role, esp since he hadn't been strongly townread and wasn't likely to get protected by anyone else

On the other hand the way killing's power is claimed to work doesn't feel right to me. It seems much more like a power that lowers chaos would be scum favored not town favored

But still, the paper flip makes me grudgingly pass on lynching paper for now.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 13:52 GMT

#5939

As for geript, he was the other person who I thought might've used the prince of darkness power, since he subbed in after pm day and if scum had pod on pm day they presumably would have used it then, but geript has played way more townie than I would expect a scum substitute to play especially after missing pm day

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 14:10 GMT

#5941

Then sandroba. He played really strongly to his townie meta, and was responsible for the town pm circle that got syllo, iamp, and lsb. Especially iamp, he felt much less "caught" than the other two and sandro could probably have saved him.

On the other hand, sandro hasn't done anything since then, which is more in line with his scum meta. Also he gave his resurrection invention to koshi who instantly got nightkilled.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 14:12 GMT

#5942

Then iamp. His claim seems believable except that apparently killing sandroba is his win condition and he hasn't even tried to shoot sandroba, plus the mystery extra KP night before last.

Then va. Has done basically no things all game.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 14:29 GMT

#5944

I guess here's where I'm leaning right now. Lynch one out of va/killing/geript, likely va but possibly one of the others. I think ve's role makes way more sense if one of the other horsemen is mafia, and geript's play has been townier but I want to look back and see where he was on scum lynches.. Then during the night phase we roleblock sandroba and have jat shoot him. Even if we mislynch today, we don't lose if a scum gets nk'ed.

Apart from me there are four town claims and two 3p claims. At least one scum and likely both are in the town claims. If we decide to kill sandroba with jat we can get half of the town claims this cycle. Idk, I'll have to think more about it this afternoon.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 16:05 GMT

#5947

Ok so here's a question is there any way we can verify geript's roleclaim? If he actually is infinite roleblocker he's probably town, cause scum probably don't have two of those plus an infinite bus driver. Jat who did you try and shoot the nights he roleblocked you?

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 16:10 GMT

#5948

This is hard to decide. Everyone has reasons I don't want to kill them - geript has been the only one playing and isn't a horse, killing knew papers role and didnt kill him, and va's apparently playing to his town meta (or at least according to Marv he was doing so day 1) and has been dropping relatively consistent hints about it, plus him being scum can't explain the prince of darkness power.

If you need to drop your vote I think va is my current preference but that's not a final choice by any means.

Aargh this is so tough... I haven't played in six months, why can't catching two scum be enough

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 17:01 GMT

#5953

On April 21 2014 01:54 Amiko wrote:
@JAT & S&b regarding geript:
I can't confirm geript, but from my POV there's a lot supporting seeing him as town (and someone I have to work with).
1) VE's PM suggests other horses are town
2) Geript previously took all my items; this suggests that he spent a night roleblocking me rather than doing any KP.
3) Geript night visited me and I didn't die; this suggests to me he doesn't have KP (It's possible, however - like, maybe he can only kill someone if they have no items).
4) Geript probably wouldn't roleblock/night visit me as scum because why bother targeting a 3p?
5) His claimed power seems to make sense with a "famine" role
Anyway if you had to pick between VA and geript for a lynch I think VA is better, but I don't really think either is scum.

Show nested quote +

Can't you just give me an item today? If the game does end on a sandroba lynch then I want to win too :c
In the words of ABBA almighty,
+ Show Spoiler +

Gimme gimme gimme (item), won't somebody help me chase the shadows away
Gimme gimme gimme (item), take me through the darkness to the break of the day
##༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give ITEM ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

(Also if you give me an item then you can pick what I take, and I can steal from someone else tonight if need be)

I'm going to try to vote with geript primarily, but I am willing to move to the majority on the off chance I'll get an item from them if I vote for them.

scum can use their role action and send in a factional kp in the same night, this was confirmed when i asked acrofales about my "make someone lovers" power and he told me if they send in a factional kp and a role action, i would only make them lovers with the target of their role action.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 21:12 GMT

#5954

Or, you know, people could just not post at all for the last 24 hours of the game.
Going to Easter dinner, maybe I will be able to post from the bathroom. Voting VA.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 20 2014 22:40 GMT

#5958

Va who do you think is scum

Amiko it's cause of the rolecop thing, without the qt VE being a rolecop doesn't help scum at a

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 21 2014 01:16 GMT

#5989

Well, if either of them is town then gg

Jat kill sandroba tonight, you might as well win I guess :/

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 21 2014 02:22 GMT

#5991

Killing killing suddenly seems cool

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 21 2014 12:08 GMT

#5994

Just let him kill sandroba

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 21 2014 14:21 GMT

#5995

I mean I know a midnight deadline is tough but seriously there were 48 hours to at least vote.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 21 2014 14:24 GMT

#5996

On April 21 2014 21:08 strongandbig wrote:
Just let him kill sandroba

You know what fuck that. Scum has to outnumber the town, and I'm not giving them one fucking inch. I'm not ready yet to yolo this game on sandroba being scum and jat telling the truth about his role.