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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 16 2014 21:42 GMT
#5801
On April 17 2014 06:31 geript wrote:
Color Coding:
Confirmed Town
Confirmed Scum
Confirmed non-Town
+ Show Spoiler [Vote Counts] +

On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0

On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
LSB (1): VisceraEyes
yamato77 (1): Holyflare
austinmcc (1): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar

Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
LSB (1): VisceraEyes
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
austinmcc (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar
marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet

Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27
Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27
Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (2): [s]Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27
Holyflare (3): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection
yamato77 (1): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (1): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46


IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (2): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig
Amiko (1): kitaman27
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (0): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27, syllogism
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (0): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig, Hopeless1der, kitaman27, kitaman27
Amiko (3): kitaman27, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (0): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (6): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (0): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig, Hopeless1der, kitaman27, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): kitaman27, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Keirathi
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster, gumshoe
gumshoe (16): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (1): Djodref

On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50
Day 1 vote count:

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, kitaman27, Paperscraps
Holyflare (0): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig, Hopeless1der, kitaman27, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): kitaman27, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Keirathi
yamato77 (0): Holyflare, LSB
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster, gumshoe
gumshoe (17): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (1): Djodref

Reduced Day 1 vote count:

IAmRobik (0):
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (0):
LSB (0):
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): IAmRobik
yamato77 (0):
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0):
VisceraEyes (0):
VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe
gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0):
Blazinghand (0):
marvellosity (0):

Not voting (1): Djodref

Ok so this is updated now. Here's some points that weighs in your favor (sandroba) on VE being scum.
1. No one jumped on the VE wagon. Minor but fair considering how scum tend to be trying to pile on to push weak lynches. The problem with this is that Palmer was on and off the wagon pretty quick. Even still he got a free pass from flipped scum.
2. VE ends up on the "right" wagon at the end of the day. Three confirmed scum end up on paperscraps; one on Banks. It's unlikely that they'd end with 4 or more scum on paperscraps.
3. Oats soft pushes the VA lynch all day based on VE's points. VE never really makes a good case on VA being scum
4. Oats soft defends VE at points.
5. VE never really explains any read/reason for LSB.

Points in my favor:
1. Oats jumps from BH to VA to Paper. If VE is scum, he's essentially jumping from a back to back scum vote to another back to back scum vote. That's pretty odd to me.

So yah, I can see a reason for killing VE. The problem is that if he's town, then we will still need to lynch Killing and JAT. Killing is the only other person, imo, who could find out Wave's role (wizard). I still think he's town. I can't really explain it. Call it feels if you will. That said, if we're going to lynch him today, then I want a 100% promise that we just call it #YOLO lurker lynch and then proceed to assume he's town and scumhunt from there.
[/s]
Gives reasons for VE to be scum, calls it #YOLO lurker lynch.
Gives zero reason for me to be scum. Wants to lynch me.
Seems legit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 16 2014 21:45 GMT
#5802
If I had a gun, I would shoot you right now for being annoying. Why can't people just fucking read what I write?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 16 2014 21:49 GMT
#5803
1) I read it.
2) Because it is fucking bullshit.
If you think you can solve the game by analysing the day1 voting over and over without even taking the reasoning for the votes into account you are a hopeless case.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 16 2014 22:18 GMT
#5804
The point of vote count analysis isn't to hammer scum. It's to find a good person to look at for objective reasons. VCA is never definitive.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 16 2014 22:19 GMT
#5805
On April 17 2014 07:18 getmoript wrote:
The point of vote count analysis isn't to hammer scum. It's to find a good person to look at for objective reasons. VCA is never definitive.

Qff
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 16 2014 22:44 GMT
#5806
ve isn't a lurker lynch. if anything its closer to a policy lynch for having the least believable dt checks in the history of the game.

still if you want to scumhunt from the assumption that we lynch ve and he flips town, then i'm down with that.

what do you say to paperscraps' assertion that killing knew his role and would have killed him if killing was scum?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
April 16 2014 22:59 GMT
#5807
My role can be OP with a lot of chaos. I highly doubt Killing would leave me alive here as scum. VE not being dead and supposedly being some super cop does not bode well for him at all. His checks are just bad. If VE if you could post some more substance that would be great. Right now he doesn't seem very invested in the game or trying to find scum.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
April 16 2014 23:00 GMT
#5808
JAT is being way too defensive for my tastes. It speaks more to him being mafia than 3p, since anytime anyone calls him out he has to respond and defend himself.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 16 2014 23:44 GMT
#5809
i was asking geript
and how does that point towards scum and not 3p
thats like exactly waht i would expect from 3p
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 16 2014 23:52 GMT
#5810
On April 17 2014 07:44 strongandbig wrote:
ve isn't a lurker lynch. if anything its closer to a policy lynch for having the least believable dt checks in the history of the game.

still if you want to scumhunt from the assumption that we lynch ve and he flips town, then i'm down with that.

what do you say to paperscraps' assertion that killing knew his role and would have killed him if killing was scum?

That's an odd but understandable reason. Like it doesn't work if both are scum for obvious reasons. Iirc he's had other reasons. I'd rather have solid reasons I can point to.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 16 2014 23:53 GMT
#5811
After work, I'll look at banks and Roberts reasons on Joey.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 17 2014 00:33 GMT
#5812
I'm going to vote for geript right now since he was cooperative with me earlier and I want to reinforce I am willing to help people who help me (I don't know if he is scum or town, but he seems to be towny since he is trying to solve the game and put forth some effort).

@strongandbig: If geript doesn't pick up votes I would consider voting for you since you seem reasonable, but I feel like it's unfair to do so over people who have helped me. If you end up needing a vote from me let me know and send me some useless item so it is fair.

Btw geript it seemed like austin wanted to lynch VE from his thread talk, but you are saying he was more set on JAT - did he want to lynch JAT in the QT? I don't mind if you ignore this it was just something I noticed cause I actually read austin's posts :3

As an aside, I'm not actually sure whether I should help JAT since I don't know if he did end up shooting at me, whatever I can deal with that later.
Also sandro is your position that you want me to use my 1-shot item scramble? I don't mind either way, but it would make things easier since it would let me make sure I'm keeping my word to JAT (though I don't know if he fulfilled his end).
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 17 2014 01:28 GMT
#5813
elect two people that will lynch VE and be done with this, nothing else to say
I come in for the scraps
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 17 2014 07:17 GMT
#5814
Aust was kinda hazy at points about his order in QT. He prefers GE, Killing and VA (mostly in that order). He thinks the JAT/Sandroba stuff will sort itself out. I just find everything he does anti town and think he's lying. Like he had to have killed someone last night. What's his purpose? Kill Palmer because Palmer wanted him dead? Dandel's the only other reasonable option if JAT is 3P. I just don't see a reason for him to shoot from a 3P survivor standpoint. That makes no sense whatsoever especially when he supposedly has to kill Sandroba. It's all just too convenient. The more you think about the claims the less any of it makes sense.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 10:55:48
April 17 2014 08:45 GMT
#5815
Catastrophic vote count:

sandroba (1): Paperscraps
geript (1): Amiko
strongandbig (2): sandroba, VayneAuthority
Paperscraps (1): Killing

Not voting (4): geript, strongandbig, justanothertownie, VisceraEyes

Currently no one is set to be elected. With 9 players alive it takes 5 to elect a mayor.
Deadline is Friday, Apr 18 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: sandroba voted snb (strongandbig) (post)
VOTE: Paperscraps voted sandroba (post)
VOTE: Amiko voted geript (post)
VOTE: VayneAuthority voted SnB (strongandbig) (post)
VOTE: Killing voted Paperscraps (post)

geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2014 13:48 GMT
#5816
On April 17 2014 16:17 getmoript wrote:
Aust was kinda hazy at points about his order in QT. He prefers GE, Killing and VA (mostly in that order). He thinks the JAT/Sandroba stuff will sort itself out. I just find everything he does anti town and think he's lying. Like he had to have killed someone last night. What's his purpose? Kill Palmer because Palmer wanted him dead? Dandel's the only other reasonable option if JAT is 3P. I just don't see a reason for him to shoot from a 3P survivor standpoint. That makes no sense whatsoever especially when he supposedly has to kill Sandroba. It's all just too convenient. The more you think about the claims the less any of it makes sense.

Qff
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#5817
The fact that ve has given us absolutely nothing today makes me feel even more confident that he's the right lynch
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 17 2014 14:29 GMT
#5818
Blergh with the bus driver having already flipped though ...

Geript will you claim who you roleblocked each night?

Also sandroba I'd like a full claim from you as well, complete role plus night actions.

I'll claim all my night actions if anyone hasn't been paying attention:
N1: target sandroba, one KP protect plus give him the power of the most recently lynched player (gumshoe)
N2: target oatsmaster, make any roles targeting him unstoppable (no rb/medic/etc) plus make myself unable to be affected by him plus find out how many one-shot abilities and items he had
N3: target jat, roleblock plus make him target me with any actions that go through the roleblock
N4: target VE, make him lovers with his target plus make me and him start with 1/2 of majority of votes
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
April 17 2014 15:08 GMT
#5819
On April 17 2014 08:00 Paperscraps wrote:
JAT is being way too defensive for my tastes. It speaks more to him being mafia than 3p, since anytime anyone calls him out he has to respond and defend himself.

Are you serious here? Why the hell would I not defend myself? I have no buddies I can count on.
On April 17 2014 09:33 Amiko wrote:

Btw geript it seemed like austin wanted to lynch VE from his thread talk, but you are saying he was more set on JAT - did he want to lynch JAT in the QT? I don't mind if you ignore this it was just something I noticed cause I actually read austin's posts :3

As an aside, I'm not actually sure whether I should help JAT since I don't know if he did end up shooting at me, whatever I can deal with that later.
Also sandro is your position that you want me to use my 1-shot item scramble? I don't mind either way, but it would make things easier since it would let me make sure I'm keeping my word to JAT (though I don't know if he fulfilled his end).

Geript just pulls bullshit out of his ass to get me lynched over his scumbuddies. He has been doing so all day.
So, you used your vest I take it?
On April 17 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
elect two people that will lynch VE and be done with this, nothing else to say

This guy gets it.
On April 17 2014 16:17 getmoript wrote:
Aust was kinda hazy at points about his order in QT. He prefers GE, Killing and VA (mostly in that order). He thinks the JAT/Sandroba stuff will sort itself out. I just find everything he does anti town and think he's lying. Like he had to have killed someone last night. What's his purpose? Kill Palmer because Palmer wanted him dead? Dandel's the only other reasonable option if JAT is 3P. I just don't see a reason for him to shoot from a 3P survivor standpoint. That makes no sense whatsoever especially when he supposedly has to kill Sandroba. It's all just too convenient. The more you think about the claims the less any of it makes sense.

This guy fails at reading.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2014 15:36 GMT
#5820
On April 17 2014 23:29 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh with the bus driver having already flipped though ...

Geript will you claim who you roleblocked each night?

Also sandroba I'd like a full claim from you as well, complete role plus night actions.

I'll claim all my night actions if anyone hasn't been paying attention:
N1: target sandroba, one KP protect plus give him the power of the most recently lynched player (gumshoe)
N2: target oatsmaster, make any roles targeting him unstoppable (no rb/medic/etc) plus make myself unable to be affected by him plus find out how many one-shot abilities and items he had
N3: target jat, roleblock plus make him target me with any actions that go through the roleblock
N4: target VE, make him lovers with his target plus make me and him start with 1/2 of majority of votes

N1: nada
N2: Target JAT (no known items)
N3: Target Oats (no known items)
N4: Target Amko (5 items)
N5: Target Austin (got roleblocked somehow)
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