Catastrophe Mafia - Page 290

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 17:26 GMT

#5781

On April 17 2014 02:22 geript wrote:
I have no clue what caused the no NKs. Nor am I going to bother trying to imagine scenarios which created it. Could be 2 saves. Could be reduced KP and a save. Could be anything. The point specifically is that it doesn't matter because it doesn't help actually find scum. Right now, everyone shoudl full roleclaim. There's few enough people in the game that it doesn't matter.

Then what are you babbling about? If you have no idea then don't paint me guilty.
I already fully roleclaimed so do what you want in that regard.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 16 2014 17:57 GMT

#5782

Like geript if you are telling the truth and are townroleblocker then you can just rb jat tonight and we lunch scum.

If you are not townrb then you are lying scum and we should not lynch who you want us to.

Either way I don't want to lynch jat, right?

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 18:18 GMT

#5783

Why do you think JAT isn't scum?

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 18:28 GMT

#5784

This is getting ridiculous geript.

1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once.
2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me.
3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

April 16 2014 18:33 GMT

#5785

I mean, jat *could* be scum, i just think ve is a safer bet for it

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 18:42 GMT

#5786

On April 17 2014 03:28 justanothertownie wrote:
This is getting ridiculous geript.

1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once.
2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me.
3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost.

1) No. I haven't read your filter. I don't need to. You have somehow failed to kill anyone that you've been asked/told to kill. N2 I roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N3 S&B roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N4 you supposedly kill oats who is immune still. N5 you did nothing? That's bullshit. Last night you killed someone; likely Dandel because he wanted to kill you. If you killed Palmer or Austin then you definitely didn't have permission to kill them. The thing is you've either been lying about being roleblocked or lying about who you've been killing. I find the latter far more likely. So because you're playing anti-town, then you're most likely scum. It's possible that you're not, but unlikely.
2) No, my reasoning expands as time goes on. You've been 100% worthless. I 100% think you're lying about not attacking last night. The deaths don't add up. I thought you were lying about Oats RB'ing you, apparently he was just immune; plus your role claim (3P survivor that requires to kill insane people) makes 0 sense. Like that's a super odd, hard to believe role especially when your KP has only targeted town aligned players.
3) WTF? Are you honestly trying to spout this shit? No, 1 KP was from you. I didn't RB you, afaik no one else has claimed an RB on you. There were 3 deaths when there have reasonably consistently been two for a while now. So no, there aren't 5 scum. At most, there are 3 scum. Quite frankly, we're at the point in the game where the people who we've slowly been putting of, need to be lynched. You're not town and you're not helping so we kill you. It's that simple.

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 18:43 GMT

#5787

On April 17 2014 03:33 strongandbig wrote:
I mean, jat *could* be scum, i just think ve is a safer bet for it

I disagree heavily. Killing is a far better bet than VE.

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 18:44 GMT

#5788

Plus JAT is confirmed bullshitting around. JAT is the obvkill here just like Oats was before.

GreYMisT

United States6736 Posts

April 16 2014 19:07 GMT

#5789

Hey everyone, I'm feeling well enough to start looking at my computer again. When I get a chance the OP will be updated. My thanks to everyone for their patience and cooperation, and thanks to my cohosts for their tremendous help.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

April 16 2014 19:42 GMT

#5790

To be honest I have you as townie geript, but I'm just afraid that you might be a hero mafia that is putting in a lot of effort. That's mainly because of the LSB shennanies and now you are somehow trying to sell me as mafia. If you can guarantee jat is roleblocked tonight then I'm okay killing VE instead.
The whole deal about jat is the following:
He is either telling the truth, in which case he didnt try to kill me on the couple nights he wasnt rbed and amiko is lying to us about his ability. In that case if jat manages to kill me tonight we possibly lose 2 townies plus jat leaves the game which means tomorrow is lylo is VE isnt the last scum.
If he is lying and VE isnt the last scum, we can possibly lose 2 townies and town is put into kingmaker position tomorrow chosing between who wins amongst sk or mafia.
What I'm saying is that if jat can't be rbed we need to kill him today.
As for explaining my reads I wont bother as those are pretty self explanatory if you look at the events of the game. The only one I could possibly be wrong about is killing, but he's kept his story straight and I trust the meta read from paper.
So bottom line is if you can rb jat we kill ve, otherwise we kill jat.

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 20:00 GMT

#5791

On April 17 2014 03:42 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

Ok, it is decided. This guy can't be town. Even geript can't be this misguided.
It is possibly LYLO. YES, YOU DO HAVE TO READ THE FILTER OF THE PERSON YOU WANT TO LYNCH AS TOWN. I dare anyone to look at how I claimed and tell me with a straigth face that this makes any sense whatsoever as scum.
I failed to kill who I was supposed to kill? Let's see about that:
I got rbed 2 times. That you are even questioning this is ridiculous because it was you and S&B who rbed me. Are you calling S&B a liar? Also town did not tell me to shoot anyone those nights.
I shot oats once but couldn't kill him (confirmed possible by his role pm). Why wasn't there another kill if that is not the truth? My story makes absolute sense here.
I was told to shoot Amiko and failed. This time I have no explanation for it - I just don't know what happened there but the other nightkills make no sense for me.
I never claimed to be a survivor. Geript doesn't even know what I claimed but he still "100% knows that I am lying". Yeah, sure.
He even admits that "at most there are 3 scum". If I am 3P that means LYLO. If I am scum nothing makes any sense. For example that there were only 2 nightkills the night before the last one.

This guy has an agenda and that is preventing a scumlynch. By going for a lynch on me he is defending his buddys by proxy. lol, he even calls Killing scummier than VE. He doesn't reevaluate things. He doesn't care that the nightkills point towards LYLO and isn't even interested in entertaining this thought because if he mislynches me here his scumteam wins.
Geript is either displaying the most horrendous and blinded townplay imaginable or he is just simply scum.

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 20:02 GMT

#5792

On April 17 2014 04:42 sandroba wrote:
To be honest I have you as townie geript, but I'm just afraid that you might be a hero mafia that is putting in a lot of effort. That's mainly because of the LSB shennanies and now you are somehow trying to sell me as mafia. If you can guarantee jat is roleblocked tonight then I'm okay killing VE instead.
The whole deal about jat is the following:
He is either telling the truth, in which case he didnt try to kill me on the couple nights he wasnt rbed and amiko is lying to us about his ability. In that case if jat manages to kill me tonight we possibly lose 2 townies plus jat leaves the game which means tomorrow is lylo is VE isnt the last scum.
If he is lying and VE isnt the last scum, we can possibly lose 2 townies and town is put into kingmaker position tomorrow chosing between who wins amongst sk or mafia.
What I'm saying is that if jat can't be rbed we need to kill him today.
As for explaining my reads I wont bother as those are pretty self explanatory if you look at the events of the game. The only one I could possibly be wrong about is killing, but he's kept his story straight and I trust the meta read from paper.
So bottom line is if you can rb jat we kill ve, otherwise we kill jat.

I already told you why I can't be SK. And even if I was that would be all the more reason for town to let me live because a SK would need to shoot scum right now.

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 20:28 GMT

#5793

On April 17 2014 03:44 geript wrote:
Plus JAT is confirmed bullshitting around. JAT is the obvkill here just like Oats was before.

You are so full of shit. Confirmed bullshitting around? I see no prove for this statement anywhere. Oats was an obvkill because he basically claimed scum. You can't even compare that to what you are bringing up against me. I mean of course you can but it only shows that you aren't arguing reasonable and are scum.

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 20:43 GMT

#5794

Look I'll be honest on the LSB thing. I didn't think he was mafia. I think there were lots of points that pointed to that, but I thought his paranoid post was pretty insightful. I hadn't read the thread (HF specifically) to know if he was actually being insightful or just scum shitting on town. It was a decent read based on the information I had. No on corrected the "HF wasn't ever really paranoid" point so I stuck to my guns on it. Like I read pretty fast, but I can't pick up 200 pages pretty quick and I never bother trying to read HF because, quite frankly, as far as I'm concerned he's best called scum on PoE rather than things he's done.

Either way, I'm pushing you for solid reasons. You've been pretty inactive as of late and you really struggle to keep up with activity/wanting to play as scum. You hadn't, as far as I can tell, been trying to decipher Syllo's alignment. IIRC, you had 1 question towards him (i think re:paperscraps read) and 1 comment on him (i think re: not doing shit other than random stuff then scum). Austin feels/felt the same way. I can't share his QT and I don't think I can invite anyone to the QT.

As far as being "hero scum," I have a really hard time doing that. Like I really, really struggle to post as scum. Right now, I'm doing what I have been doing the whole game: trying to find scum and pushing who I feel is scum. I would've prefered VE to check Killing like I asked him in thread and in QT, but the night before I had asked him to check austin. I don't hate the austin check per se. I don't think VE is scum; I can be wrong there.

Here's the thing, I think Amiko is 3p. I personally find it highly unlikely that there are 3 3P in this game and if there were, then it's almost assure that there's only 5 scum. I think it's much more reasonable to lynch JAT and roleblock VA or VE rather than going a different path because I can see world where both VE and VE are town and because I can see a world where JAT is scum (despite my vote count analysis).

Here's specifically what I want from you Sandro. I want your reads and your reasons for your reads. Moreso, reasons for why you find people to be town. I have a hard time right now seeing Killing as town. Paper has a townread on him and I trust Paper, but I'm not sure on it.

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 20:49 GMT

#5795

There is no reason to assume there can't be 3 3P in a game like this. Literally 0 reason. It is also IMPOSSIBLE that there were only 5 scum based on the nightkills alone. 5 scum would also be heavily imbalanced and town favoured for this kind of game.

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 20:51 GMT

#5796

Geript is calling me the last scum with 3 KP last night. Logic much?

justanothertownie

16325 Posts

April 16 2014 20:53 GMT

#5797

Ok, I take back the last post that was in case I was 3P. Still even if I am 3P 5 scum are impossible by nightkills alone.

Killing

Canada530 Posts

April 16 2014 21:16 GMT

#5798

Wow geript, you really wanna kill me. That's not cool bro

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 21:31 GMT

#5799

Color Coding:
Confirmed Town
Confirmed Scum
Confirmed non-Town
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On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0

On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~
LSB (1): VisceraEyes
yamato77 (1): Holyflare
austinmcc (1): ~~raynpelikoneet~~, raynpelikoneet
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar

Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~
LSB (1): VisceraEyes
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
austinmcc (0): ~~raynpelikoneet~~, ~~raynpelikoneet~~
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, ~~Palmar~~
marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet

Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~
Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, ~~marvellosity~~, Amiko
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): ~~Dandel Ion~~, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27
Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, ~~Oatsmaster~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (2): [s]Palmar, ~~Koshi~~, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Tehpoofter~~
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27
Holyflare (3): sandroba, ~~marvellosity~~, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~
Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, ~~marvellosity~~, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, ~~Holyflare~~, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection
yamato77 (1): ~~Holyflare~~, LSB
kitaman27 (1): ~~Dandel Ion~~, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, ~~Oatsmaster~~
gumshoe (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Dandel Ion (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Blazinghand (1): ~~iamperfection~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (1): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Koshi~~, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Tehpoofter~~
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, ~~kitaman27~~, Paperscraps
Holyflare (2): ~~sandroba~~, ~~marvellosity~~, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~
Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, ~~marvellosity~~, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, ~~Holyflare~~, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, justanothertownie, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, strongandbig
Amiko (1): kitaman27
yamato77 (0): ~~Holyflare~~, ~~LSB~~
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~Palmar~~
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
VayneAuthority (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~
gumshoe (0): ~~kitaman27~~, ~~syllogism~~
Dandel Ion (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Blazinghand (1): ~~iamperfection~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Paperscraps~~

Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Tehpoofter~~
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, ~~kitaman27~~, ~~Paperscraps~~
Holyflare (0): ~~sandroba~~, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~yamato77~~
LSB (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~
Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, ~~marvellosity~~, Amiko, ~~marvellosity~~, Tehpoofter, ~~Holyflare~~, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, ~~justanothertownie~~, LSB, VisceraEyes, Koshi, ~~strongandbig~~, Hopeless1der, ~~kitaman27~~, kitaman27
Amiko (3): ~~kitaman27~~, Paperscraps, Killing, IAmRobik
yamato77 (0): ~~Holyflare~~, ~~LSB~~
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~Palmar~~
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
VayneAuthority (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~
gumshoe (6): ~~kitaman27~~, ~~syllogism~~, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Blazinghand (1): ~~iamperfection~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Paperscraps~~

Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Tehpoofter~~
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, ~~kitaman27~~, ~~Paperscraps~~
Holyflare (0): ~~sandroba~~, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~yamato77~~
LSB (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~Amiko~~, ~~marvellosity~~, Tehpoofter, ~~Holyflare~~, ~~Holyflare~~, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, ~~justanothertownie~~, LSB, ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~strongandbig~~, ~~Hopeless1der~~, ~~kitaman27~~, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): ~~kitaman27~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Killing~~, IAmRobik, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~justanothertownie~~, ~~Keirathi~~
yamato77 (0): ~~Holyflare~~, ~~LSB~~
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~Palmar~~
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
VayneAuthority (1): ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, gumshoe
gumshoe (16): ~~kitaman27~~, ~~syllogism~~, sandroba, ~~marvellosity~~, strongandbig, yamato77, ~~justanothertownie~~, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Blazinghand (0): ~~iamperfection~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~WaveofShadow~~
marvellosity (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Paperscraps~~

Not voting (1): Djodref

On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50
Day 1 vote count:

IAmRobik (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Tehpoofter~~
iamperfection (1): Foolishness, ~~kitaman27~~, ~~Paperscraps~~
Holyflare (0): ~~sandroba~~, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~yamato77~~
LSB (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~Amiko~~, ~~marvellosity~~, Tehpoofter, ~~Holyflare~~, ~~Holyflare~~, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, ~~justanothertownie~~, LSB, ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~strongandbig~~, ~~Hopeless1der~~, ~~kitaman27~~, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): ~~kitaman27~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Killing~~, IAmRobik, ~~marvellosity~~, ~~justanothertownie~~, ~~Keirathi~~
yamato77 (0): ~~Holyflare~~, ~~LSB~~
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0): ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~Palmar~~
VisceraEyes (0): ~~Palmar~~
VayneAuthority (1): ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, gumshoe
gumshoe (17): ~~kitaman27~~, ~~syllogism~~, sandroba, ~~marvellosity~~, strongandbig, yamato77, ~~justanothertownie~~, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0): ~~kitaman27~~
Blazinghand (0): ~~iamperfection~~, ~~Oatsmaster~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Paperscraps~~, ~~Dandel Ion~~, ~~WaveofShadow~~
marvellosity (0): ~~Palmar~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Koshi~~, ~~Paperscraps~~

Not voting (1): Djodref

Reduced Day 1 vote count:

IAmRobik (0):
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (0):
LSB (0):
Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority
Amiko (1): IAmRobik
yamato77 (0):
Tehpoofter (1): syllogism
kitaman27 (0):
VisceraEyes (0):
VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe
gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Dandel Ion (0):
Blazinghand (0):
marvellosity (0):

Not voting (1): Djodref

[/s]
Ok so this is updated now. Here's some points that weighs in your favor (sandroba) on VE being scum.
1. No one jumped on the VE wagon. Minor but fair considering how scum tend to be trying to pile on to push weak lynches. The problem with this is that Palmer was on and off the wagon pretty quick. Even still he got a free pass from flipped scum.
2. VE ends up on the "right" wagon at the end of the day. Three confirmed scum end up on paperscraps; one on Banks. It's unlikely that they'd end with 4 or more scum on paperscraps.
3. Oats soft pushes the VA lynch all day based on VE's points. VE never really makes a good case on VA being scum
4. Oats soft defends VE at points.
5. VE never really explains any read/reason for LSB.

Points in my favor:
1. Oats jumps from BH to VA to Paper. If VE is scum, he's essentially jumping from a back to back scum vote to another back to back scum vote. That's pretty odd to me.

So yah, I can see a reason for killing VE. The problem is that if he's town, then we will still need to lynch Killing and JAT. Killing is the only other person, imo, who could find out Wave's role (wizard). I still think he's town. I can't really explain it. Call it feels if you will. That said, if we're going to lynch him today, then I want a 100% promise that we just call it #YOLO lurker lynch and then proceed to assume he's town and scumhunt from there.

geript

10024 Posts

April 16 2014 21:33 GMT

#5800

On April 17 2014 06:16 Killing wrote:
Wow geript, you really wanna kill me. That's not cool bro

No, you're just on my list of people I want to kill. JAT is at the top. You, Sandro and VE/VA are in there too. I'm pretty sure that only 1 of VE/VA can be scum. Looking at Oats filter, that's more likely to be VE but I don't think that's in any way definitive. Things are just kinda in flux as I read more after doing my online class work.

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