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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 06 2014 16:40 GMT
#3241
On April 07 2014 01:37 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 01:33 syllogism wrote:
Anyway, I tracked Amiko to Kita. He is mafia or lying for unknown reasons about his role.


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:08 Amiko wrote:
On April 03 2014 08:58 GreYMisT wrote:
I would like to remind the players that you may talk about what is in your role PM, but you may not directly quote it.


Modified survivor. My night action can be learning if a player has an item and taking it, if possible. I have a one shot that disables all item use and swaps items among players (1 for 1). I can protect myself at night (and no one else).

About the robik comment, I thought he was likely 3p and I figured he would notice that and assume I am also 3p from it, then send me something back to joint. But I don't blame him for giving it thread attention, it probably was a liability.

Lets hear it then why he decided to target Kita and how that ability makes sense for a survivor who supposedly just wins by staying alive.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 06 2014 16:54 GMT
#3242
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.
Writer@WriterYamato
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 06 2014 16:58 GMT
#3243
On April 07 2014 01:40 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 01:37 Killing wrote:
On April 07 2014 01:33 syllogism wrote:
Anyway, I tracked Amiko to Kita. He is mafia or lying for unknown reasons about his role.


On April 05 2014 09:08 Amiko wrote:
On April 03 2014 08:58 GreYMisT wrote:
I would like to remind the players that you may talk about what is in your role PM, but you may not directly quote it.


Modified survivor. My night action can be learning if a player has an item and taking it, if possible. I have a one shot that disables all item use and swaps items among players (1 for 1). I can protect myself at night (and no one else).

About the robik comment, I thought he was likely 3p and I figured he would notice that and assume I am also 3p from it, then send me something back to joint. But I don't blame him for giving it thread attention, it probably was a liability.

Lets hear it then why he decided to target Kita and how that ability makes sense for a survivor who supposedly just wins by staying alive.

Ok, I want to hear that too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 06 2014 17:00 GMT
#3244
Why did you decide to track Amiko syllo? Did you not believe his claim?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 06 2014 17:00 GMT
#3245
Eh, it wouldn't be bad to spend the second lynch on amiko.

I don't like leaving "survivors" with shifty powers and potential shifty wincons around.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 06 2014 17:01 GMT
#3246
On April 07 2014 01:54 yamato77 wrote:
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.

You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want.

He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 06 2014 17:04 GMT
#3247
On April 07 2014 02:01 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 01:54 yamato77 wrote:
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.

You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want.

He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor.


Hmm, Greymist tends to give survivors some abilities to keep the game interesting for them afaik. Marv showed me his survivor role pm from a different greymist game and he had a whole bunch of abilities. The important part here is indeed that his target was a nightkill.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 06 2014 17:05 GMT
#3248
On April 07 2014 02:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:01 syllogism wrote:
On April 07 2014 01:54 yamato77 wrote:
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.

You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want.

He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor.


Hmm, Greymist tends to give survivors some abilities to keep the game interesting for them afaik. Marv showed me his survivor role pm from a different greymist game and he had a whole bunch of abilities. The important part here is indeed that his target was a nightkill.

Do you mean parallel worlds? In that game Marv's win con was to use all the abilities, at which point he would be removed from the game. He actually claimed that role.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 06 2014 17:05 GMT
#3249
On April 07 2014 02:05 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 07 2014 02:01 syllogism wrote:
On April 07 2014 01:54 yamato77 wrote:
If this is seriously your biggest concern, we are without a doubt lynching you today. I demand better from you than this, syllo, and if you are town you can deliver. If you are mafia you can die.

You don't make demands from me. I am just like every other player allowed to invest as much or as little time into the game as I want.

He was tracked to a kill and his role is almost certainly nonsense. It makes no logical sense. Look at his supposed abilities. His win con is to survive until the end of the game and he can either steal items or just self-protect every cycle. Then he also has a one-shot that disables item use and swaps items between players. How does any of that, self-protecting aside, make sense for a survivor? Even if he could just self-protect, he could basically claim and afk until the end of the game since no one is going to waste two kp on a claimed survivor.


Hmm, Greymist tends to give survivors some abilities to keep the game interesting for them afaik. Marv showed me his survivor role pm from a different greymist game and he had a whole bunch of abilities. The important part here is indeed that his target was a nightkill.

Do you mean parallel worlds? In that game Marv's win con was to use all the abilities, at which point he would be removed from the game. He actually claimed that role.

Yeah, that's probably it.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 06 2014 17:08 GMT
#3250
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist! You understand the law of equivalent exchange: that in order to create something, you must first give up something of equal value. For every vote on you and the player playing Alphonse Elric, You have an extra antivote (not your regular vote) for that amount. This total can only be placed on one player, and may not be place on yourself or Alphonse. It will go into effect at the lynch. PM the hosts the name of the player to use this antivote. You also may not vote for yourself or Alphonse. You are masoned with Alphonse, know that he shares your win condition, and may communicate here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/47CusBMYf6Bwu. If Alphonse dies, you will be given the option to give up all your abilities to resurrect Alphonse that coming phase. If you and Alphonse both vote for the same person an extra vote will be placed on that person. You win when either you or Alphonse has survived until the endgame.

"This pain's nothing...compared to what he's given up..."


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 06 2014 17:12 GMT
#3251
On April 07 2014 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:
Show nested quote +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist! You understand the law of equivalent exchange: that in order to create something, you must first give up something of equal value. For every vote on you and the player playing Alphonse Elric, You have an extra antivote (not your regular vote) for that amount. This total can only be placed on one player, and may not be place on yourself or Alphonse. It will go into effect at the lynch. PM the hosts the name of the player to use this antivote. You also may not vote for yourself or Alphonse. You are masoned with Alphonse, know that he shares your win condition, and may communicate here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/47CusBMYf6Bwu. If Alphonse dies, you will be given the option to give up all your abilities to resurrect Alphonse that coming phase. If you and Alphonse both vote for the same person an extra vote will be placed on that person. You win when either you or Alphonse has survived until the endgame.

"This pain's nothing...compared to what he's given up..."


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'


Does this not sound really similar to the sort of horsemen situation? They are masoned together and probably win if they make it to end game or some shit.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 06 2014 17:13 GMT
#3252
On April 07 2014 02:12 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist! You understand the law of equivalent exchange: that in order to create something, you must first give up something of equal value. For every vote on you and the player playing Alphonse Elric, You have an extra antivote (not your regular vote) for that amount. This total can only be placed on one player, and may not be place on yourself or Alphonse. It will go into effect at the lynch. PM the hosts the name of the player to use this antivote. You also may not vote for yourself or Alphonse. You are masoned with Alphonse, know that he shares your win condition, and may communicate here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/47CusBMYf6Bwu. If Alphonse dies, you will be given the option to give up all your abilities to resurrect Alphonse that coming phase. If you and Alphonse both vote for the same person an extra vote will be placed on that person. You win when either you or Alphonse has survived until the endgame.

"This pain's nothing...compared to what he's given up..."


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'


Does this not sound really similar to the sort of horsemen situation? They are masoned together and probably win if they make it to end game or some shit.

No horsemen are probably linked by name and QT only.
These games always have a cell of some sort of people with differing alignments within.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 06 2014 17:13 GMT
#3253
On April 07 2014 02:12 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist! You understand the law of equivalent exchange: that in order to create something, you must first give up something of equal value. For every vote on you and the player playing Alphonse Elric, You have an extra antivote (not your regular vote) for that amount. This total can only be placed on one player, and may not be place on yourself or Alphonse. It will go into effect at the lynch. PM the hosts the name of the player to use this antivote. You also may not vote for yourself or Alphonse. You are masoned with Alphonse, know that he shares your win condition, and may communicate here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/47CusBMYf6Bwu. If Alphonse dies, you will be given the option to give up all your abilities to resurrect Alphonse that coming phase. If you and Alphonse both vote for the same person an extra vote will be placed on that person. You win when either you or Alphonse has survived until the endgame.

"This pain's nothing...compared to what he's given up..."


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'


Does this not sound really similar to the sort of horsemen situation? They are masoned together and probably win if they make it to end game or some shit.

The only thing that indicates so for me is that all the horses refuse to play this game somehow.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#3254
On April 07 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:12 Killing wrote:
On April 07 2014 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist! You understand the law of equivalent exchange: that in order to create something, you must first give up something of equal value. For every vote on you and the player playing Alphonse Elric, You have an extra antivote (not your regular vote) for that amount. This total can only be placed on one player, and may not be place on yourself or Alphonse. It will go into effect at the lynch. PM the hosts the name of the player to use this antivote. You also may not vote for yourself or Alphonse. You are masoned with Alphonse, know that he shares your win condition, and may communicate here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/47CusBMYf6Bwu. If Alphonse dies, you will be given the option to give up all your abilities to resurrect Alphonse that coming phase. If you and Alphonse both vote for the same person an extra vote will be placed on that person. You win when either you or Alphonse has survived until the endgame.

"This pain's nothing...compared to what he's given up..."


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'


Does this not sound really similar to the sort of horsemen situation? They are masoned together and probably win if they make it to end game or some shit.

The only thing that indicates so for me is that all the horses refuse to play this game somehow.


That's exactly what I've been thinking.
VE has been super scummy imo and hasn't really participated
Djo, afk,
VA, afk, just outs that he's a horse
can't remember the 4th horse,
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#3255
Gumshoe was the last one. Didn't play either, flipped town though.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 06 2014 17:28 GMT
#3256
I'm just busy. Hell weekend. What is scummy about my play? I have a green check on Djo too unless you disbelieve my claim...which is pretty much self confirmable. Think hard before pursuing aVE day Joey
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 06 2014 17:30 GMT
#3257
On April 07 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just busy. Hell weekend. What is scummy about my play? I have a green check on Djo too unless you disbelieve my claim...which is pretty much self confirmable. Think hard before pursuing aVE day Joey


You're not the lynch today imo but you should step it up scumbag.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 06 2014 17:31 GMT
#3258
Nobody wants to lead lynches I guess. Let me show you the way.

##Vote: iamperfection
##vote: Hopeless1der
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 06 2014 17:32 GMT
#3259
On a double lynch day? And I'm the scumbag?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 06 2014 17:32 GMT
#3260
To Clarify, You do not get 2 votes, just the top 2 people on the list are lynched
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