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On April 05 2014 06:00 sandroba wrote:
Finally caught up. My reasoning for paperscraps being town is mainly one of the first posts he made in the game, as I've said before, he was the first to reveal his QT and along with it revealed he was suspicious of VE, but didn't disclose the other 2 people in the QT he wasnt suspicious of. That points to town. The whole case on him is that he is writing backwards and change his read from town to null in 6 hours which I don't think point to mafia. People read the thread over and change their minds. Also the current defense of poofer points to town as well in this situation where he is on the chopping block.
I'll look at gumshoe next.
I actually kind of like this point.
If you're scum and leading the lynch by a wide margin, then someone comes in and gives you a town read and an out on someone else to vote for, why would you call that person town? It doesn't make much sense.
I guess if they are scum together (which i speculated a bit about earlier) it makes a bit more sense, but even then I think it would make more sense to save yourself and maybe get some towncred in the process?
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On April 05 2014 06:16 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 06:00 sandroba wrote:
Finally caught up. My reasoning for paperscraps being town is mainly one of the first posts he made in the game, as I've said before, he was the first to reveal his QT and along with it revealed he was suspicious of VE, but didn't disclose the other 2 people in the QT he wasnt suspicious of. That points to town. The whole case on him is that he is writing backwards and change his read from town to null in 6 hours which I don't think point to mafia. People read the thread over and change their minds. Also the current defense of poofer points to town as well in this situation where he is on the chopping block.
I'll look at gumshoe next. I actually kind of like this point. If you're scum and leading the lynch by a wide margin, then someone comes in and gives you a town read and an out on someone else to vote for, why would you call that person town? It doesn't make much sense. I guess if they are scum together (which i speculated a bit about earlier) it makes a bit more sense, but even then I think it would make more sense to save yourself and maybe get some towncred in the process?
I used to think so too, but the only way to ever get towncred when you're overwhelmingly leading a lynch is to poo-poo at least one alternative.
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Okay I somehow missed the inconsistency marv spotted by paperscraps describing his own mafia play. Fuck I don't know anymore.
What is the case on gumshoe btw? I read his filter and there is nothing screaming scum to me. It's too hard to find stuff in this thread.
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Okay so I've technically read the game, but I've retained very little of it. Can I just sheep the paperscraps wagon and call it a day?
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On April 05 2014 06:18 Paperscraps wrote:
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maybe if you didn't sheep terrible lynches repeatedly and ever said something worthwhile, we wouldn't be in this situation
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Edition 4. Day 1 of Catastrophe.
In this edition of The JubJub Journal:
- Europeans to Blame for Over-production of Spam
- A Quick Update to the iamperfection Research
- Reminder
Europeans to Blame for Over-production of Spam
The price of Spam has plummeted in recent days due to an over-supply coming from the Europeans. Thanks to the work done by investigative reporter VisceraEyes we now are able to say with certainty where the problem lies.
"I started investigating the Spam problem a few days ago," says VisceraEyes. "I was interested in it because I only have 3 pages of filter and the thread is over 100 pages long. When a thread is spammy I'm always the primary cause of it. However this game has seen an abhorrent amount of Spam and I'm not the cause! Something weird must have happened."
VisceraEyes spent many days tracking the source of the problem. For him, this involved many sleepless night as he wanted to get directly to the root of the issue.
"It wasn't easy at all. I had to click everyone's filter and check how many pages they had. When I play mafia, I'm usually too busy posting to do things like filter-reading and checking past games."
As he discovered, it seems that Europeans are mostly to blame for the over-excessive Spam and large number of pages. He points specifically to Palmar, Marvellosity, and HolyFlare as the main contributors while also noting Dandel Ion as a secondary cause. However, VisceraEyes did not stop there. He proceeded to dig deeper to find why these players are making so much Spam.
"These players are making a lot of Spam due to the recent technological advances in spam-production. Spam is now cheaper to produce than ever before thanks to the research and findings done by the (in)famous Bill Murray."
For those who are unaware, Bill Murray discovered a cheap method of Spam production by just writing one sentence about whatever you want and hitting the post button.
"It really was an amazing discovery," VisceraEyes reports. "He changed the face of the mafia game forever."
Many players, including Foolishness, are getting a headache because of the excess Spam.
"I went to bed having caught up in the thread. When I woke up ~8 hours later there was 25 more pages to read," he said. When asked how he was going to try to rectify the situation he said, "I'm going to shoot a bitch."
Foolishness would also like to say that he meant that previous sentence figuratively and not literally.
A Quick Update to the iamperfection Research
Our reporter managed to catch Foolishness in the bathroom to get a few words for him about the iamperfection case. Many players were skeptical at his case, some even going so far as to use big words like "verbose".
"I don't agree with his case," says Oatsmaster. "There's no need to actually read his filter or look at what Foolishness said. Critical thinking is for snubs. Here in Catastrophe we just post nonsense."
Though he seemed to be quite busy, Foolishness managed to give us a few words about iamperfection.
"Pressuring people? Ha. Have you seen his town games? This is a guy who has caught mafia and convinced an entire town to vote with him. Sure, he's posting now. But are his posts doing anything? Absolutely not."
Skepticism seems to arise because iamperfection has been posting in the thread. Many players often mistake this for a sign of towniness, preferring to go after the lurkers instead.
"It's really easy to vote on someone who isn't posting. You don't have to do analysis or critically think about their posts, just vote the guy for not posting. The best part about it is that you can do this as either town or mafia!" says Palmar.
Marvellosity also commented on the issue: "anyone who cannot match me in filter length is automatically mafia. Don't sign up for a game if you can't post as much as me."
Foolishness was able to give a few words when asked about the state of the game.
"Normally yes, it's important to analyze the lurkers to punish the scum from doing so. However, the current game only has a small handful of lurkers. Most players already have 2-3 pages in their filter. So filter length does not mean as much in these spammy games. Rather, one has to look at who's trying to accomplish something for the town and who is just posting to skirt by. Is it likely that one of the lurker's is mafia? Probably, but the number of lurkers is so small that it's impossible for a majority of the mafia to be in them. It's not about the fact that he's only posting one-liners...it's that he's not accomplishing anything with them."
Reminder
On March 28 2014 21:40 Foolishness wrote:
Okay I won't hydra then. Just next Friday through Sunday I'll be gone a lot of the time. I will still be able to fulfill posting requirements during this time, so this shouldn't be a problem.
Besides, slamalakaslam is much better than anything I could come up with, though Slamlishness has a nice ring to it.
The JubJub Journal™ - Apr 4, 2014.
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On April 05 2014 06:19 sandroba wrote:
Okay I somehow missed the inconsistency marv spotted by paperscraps describing his own mafia play. Fuck I don't know anymore.
What is the case on gumshoe btw? I read his filter and there is nothing screaming scum to me. It's too hard to find stuff in this thread.
Went after easy targets only in dandel + LSB
lack of his usual paranoia regarding heavy posters (both of his last games he called rayn scum repeatedly)
only defending himself in the 2nd half of filter by calling himself lazy rather than doing anything
i'd still rather lynch paperscraps than poofter. all he's done is move from BH -> marv -> iamp as is convenient. I dunno.
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On April 05 2014 06:25 Paperscraps wrote:
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you might be right. but iamp is one of the worst lynches in the game and i'm not so hot on lynching poofter.
Got any better ideas?
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We got a handful of lurkers here Foolishness. Examples: Djodref, austin, Hopeless, Vayne, Gumshoe and to some extend Amiko, Blazinghand and you.
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On April 05 2014 06:19 sandroba wrote:
Okay I somehow missed the inconsistency marv spotted by paperscraps describing his own mafia play. Fuck I don't know anymore.
What is the case on gumshoe btw? I read his filter and there is nothing screaming scum to me. It's too hard to find stuff in this thread.
i was going to ask you about that but that post was from a year ago. I don't think that point holds as much weight as some of the others against paperman
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OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.
Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Edition 5. Day 1 of Catastrophe.
BREAKING NEWS!
We interrupt for this breaking news bulletin!
Our undercover agent HolyFlare managed to catch Paperscraps and Foolishness deep in conversation at a restaurant. HolyFlare was able to get part of the conversation on tape. Here's an exclusive look at what he obtained:
Paperscraps: ...item might turn out to be the death of me because of the posting restriction.
Foolishness: People will always go after that stuff cause it's easy pickings.
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Foolishness: syllogism should definitely not be trusted.
Paperscraps: What about marvellosity?
Foolishness: Who?
Paperscraps: marvellosity?
Foolishness: Who's that?
Paperscraps: Oh c'mon don't be a hater.
Foolishness: What reason do I have to listen to him? What reason does anyone have to listen to him? He claims things like he's more often right than myself or sandroba or syllogism, and that's just simply not true. Marvellosity has single-handedly ruin games for the town in the past, and he's also messed up my correct reads before too. Until he proves himself again I don't see why his reads are any better than any other player in the game.
Paperscraps: So you think he's town then?
Foolishness: No reason to kill him yet. Though he's hiding something. sandroba and kitaman are much more trustworthy.
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Foolishness: Honestly you should stop responding to him...he's got a huge ego and you're just wasting your time. Similar to what happened with gonzaw and myself in Shadow mafia.
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Paperscraps: ...Mattchew....dickhead...
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Foolishness: The most damning thing about you is your switcheroo read on tehpoofter. I don't think that's reason enough to lynch you. I don't feel like you're hiding anything from the town. You're not pushing an agenda. Also a lot of questionable people are pushing your lynch. Ironically some of these players are also top of peoples' scum list.
Paperscraps: How does that factor in?
Foolishness: For example, I may have a list of 6-7 people I think are mafia. Obviously I probably have a couple right as most people would, but the others are all wrong. I always get antsy when 4 of the players in the list are all voting the same person.
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Paperscraps: Thank you for your support in a very backend sort of way.
Foolishness: Don't get me wrong, a no-lynch is terrible. If I need to vote you to secure a lynch I will.
HolyFlare had the following to say when asked to comment upon the information he obtained:
"Obviously they are both scumbuddies together. I'm incapable of reading in-between the lines."
The JubJub Journal™ - Apr 4, 2014.
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On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.
Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!
Sherlock on the case.
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On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.
Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!
no dood you dont get the point
there's a difference between "writing a lot" and "making a lot of posts"
if everyone made fewer posts this game would be better
the same is not true for "if everyone wrote fewer words"
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iamp is town, and it's nothing to do with calling me town, it's to do with the fact i have played with him 30 times and i know what a town-iamp looks like.
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So much work. Impossible to find good lynch.
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lol Foolishness butthurt that he's terrible
ahahahahaha
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