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Koshi dick move analysis gumshoe is confirmed town.
He is a cheap fucker if he lies and swears on his life.
I am not going to reconsider this.
~rayn
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Also if you get lynched and flip scum there´s no reason for anyone to believe you on the matter of my alignment.
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On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,
Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling raynpelikonoshi - likely town pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe gumshoe - scummy 90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap" Steveling - neutral It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure). but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town. I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good. Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine. We seem to have a different take on going all out, then
Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.
I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD.
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Steveling what's your read on getmoript and Alakaslam?
~rayn
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On April 03 2014 01:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Koshi dick move analysis gumshoe is confirmed town.
He is a cheap fucker if he lies and swears on his life.
I am not going to reconsider this.
~rayn
I would agree but meh. This tunnel. insane.
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On April 03 2014 01:17 Steveling wrote:
Gum, when I started being active today first thing I did was filter you and raynkoshi.
You can check my post on them, frankly I didn't find a single anti town thing.
My view on them hasn't changed since then as well, their case on you was solid.
Anyway, we should get some heat from other cells as well, guys?
Promote discussion pls.
I adressed that case here
2: I apologize for that point ) : Honestly I was overthinking it, if we had CONFIRMED scum why lynch them then and there? I thought, towns are notorious for bieng lazy later on so I thought it no problem to just leave them till the last minute, they might even slip / :. That said, Rayn has twisted that whole conversation in 2 ways.
1: It stemmed from Geript doing Geript things, Rayn said he was confirmed maf which he doesn't even bilieve anymore
2: I meant in the case that we have 100 percent confirmed scum, which we will never have obs / : so yeah we should lynch the scummiest people first, I will concede that. But how does any of that make me scum? Why take on such a hard position.
Point 3: Contradicting myself. I'm not the best player man T_T Rayn pretty much is, if I make mistakes I'm sorry, I know it dont make your job easier none. The meta argument is so clear to me, but I guess I cant blame others for not seeing it / : and the whole me bieng a hypocrite for not considering you scum too is bull because I did consider you ) : and it was Rayn who dragged me into that fight.
But honestly forget all that man, listen to the thread, not one person this game has defended or backed me up / : (except you) am I really that gone? Is scum really that meek? I know that seems like shit logic, but it's just common sense really.
I dont play my heart out like this when I'm scum guys T_T but theres only so much I can do when I'm bieng attacked from every single angle.
What makes you think you would find something overtly scummy in his play? Best way to catch scum Rayn is to notice how bloodthirsty he is and this game his jaws are just dripping.
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On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum?
Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn.
Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk.
Find scum outside of your cell!
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On April 03 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum? Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn. Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk. Find scum outside of your cell!
Im not voting you 0_0 your scum.
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On April 03 2014 01:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Steveling what's your read on getmoript and Alakaslam?
~rayn
Haven't yet read them since other people did plenty earlier, will do now.
Wait some.
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On April 03 2014 01:22 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:17 Steveling wrote:
Gum, when I started being active today first thing I did was filter you and raynkoshi.
You can check my post on them, frankly I didn't find a single anti town thing.
My view on them hasn't changed since then as well, their case on you was solid.
Anyway, we should get some heat from other cells as well, guys?
Promote discussion pls. I adressed that case here Show nested quote +2: I apologize for that point ) : Honestly I was overthinking it, if we had CONFIRMED scum why lynch them then and there? I thought, towns are notorious for bieng lazy later on so I thought it no problem to just leave them till the last minute, they might even slip / :. That said, Rayn has twisted that whole conversation in 2 ways.
1: It stemmed from Geript doing Geript things, Rayn said he was confirmed maf which he doesn't even bilieve anymore
2: I meant in the case that we have 100 percent confirmed scum, which we will never have obs / : so yeah we should lynch the scummiest people first, I will concede that. But how does any of that make me scum? Why take on such a hard position.
Point 3: Contradicting myself. I'm not the best player man T_T Rayn pretty much is, if I make mistakes I'm sorry, I know it dont make your job easier none. The meta argument is so clear to me, but I guess I cant blame others for not seeing it / : and the whole me bieng a hypocrite for not considering you scum too is bull because I did consider you ) : and it was Rayn who dragged me into that fight.
But honestly forget all that man, listen to the thread, not one person this game has defended or backed me up / : (except you) am I really that gone? Is scum really that meek? I know that seems like shit logic, but it's just common sense really.
I dont play my heart out like this when I'm scum guys T_T but theres only so much I can do when I'm bieng attacked from every single angle.
What makes you think you would find something overtly scummy in his play? Best way to catch scum Rayn is to notice how bloodthirsty he is and this game his jaws are just dripping.
Hmm. Nha. rayn is pretty all over the place as town. More so than scum.
Your own activity just makes him spend way more posts on you than "needed".
Also rayn has provided multiple scumreads and townreads. With reasoning that go further than "all scummers are after me, the scumteam is superactive"
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On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,
Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling raynpelikonoshi - likely town pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe gumshoe - scummy 90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap" Steveling - neutral It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure). but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town. I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good. Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine. We seem to have a different take on going all out, then Show nested quote +Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.
I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD.
There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1.
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mderg do you think gumshoe is mafia?
If so, can you vote me for Mayor?
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On April 03 2014 01:23 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum? Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn. Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk. Find scum outside of your cell! Im not voting you 0_0 your scum.
Regardless of if I'm scum or not (I'm not) i will follow consensus. If i don't i am claiming scum and you gwt - 1 scum and then you confirm yourself as town because you are a tool who has been pushing me for no logical reason. Why would you not do that???
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On April 03 2014 01:25 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,
Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling raynpelikonoshi - likely town pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe gumshoe - scummy 90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap" Steveling - neutral It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure). but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town. I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good. Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine. We seem to have a different take on going all out, then Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.
I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD. There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1.
Sigh, your really over thinking it, in Cultured I had a similar all out green read on a player called Mocsta, I just think your town bro, why ya gotta hate me for it T_T also I understand there are reasons to do what I did, but the negatives are
1) instant ire of town
2) easy point for scum to jump on
3) doesnt help me at all as scum, because as you said, I am more likely to know your alignment if I'm scum, therefore there are no realy lynch benefits.
The only real reason I'd defend you is because I dont want you to get lynched / :
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On April 03 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:23 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum? Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn. Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk. Find scum outside of your cell! Im not voting you 0_0 your scum. Regardless of if I'm scum or not (I'm not) i will follow consensus. If i don't i am claiming scum and you gwt - 1 scum and then you confirm yourself as town because you are a tool who has been pushing me for no logical reason. Why would you not do that???
Promise?
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On April 03 2014 01:24 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:22 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:17 Steveling wrote:
Gum, when I started being active today first thing I did was filter you and raynkoshi.
You can check my post on them, frankly I didn't find a single anti town thing.
My view on them hasn't changed since then as well, their case on you was solid.
Anyway, we should get some heat from other cells as well, guys?
Promote discussion pls. I adressed that case here 2: I apologize for that point ) : Honestly I was overthinking it, if we had CONFIRMED scum why lynch them then and there? I thought, towns are notorious for bieng lazy later on so I thought it no problem to just leave them till the last minute, they might even slip / :. That said, Rayn has twisted that whole conversation in 2 ways.
1: It stemmed from Geript doing Geript things, Rayn said he was confirmed maf which he doesn't even bilieve anymore
2: I meant in the case that we have 100 percent confirmed scum, which we will never have obs / : so yeah we should lynch the scummiest people first, I will concede that. But how does any of that make me scum? Why take on such a hard position.
Point 3: Contradicting myself. I'm not the best player man T_T Rayn pretty much is, if I make mistakes I'm sorry, I know it dont make your job easier none. The meta argument is so clear to me, but I guess I cant blame others for not seeing it / : and the whole me bieng a hypocrite for not considering you scum too is bull because I did consider you ) : and it was Rayn who dragged me into that fight.
But honestly forget all that man, listen to the thread, not one person this game has defended or backed me up / : (except you) am I really that gone? Is scum really that meek? I know that seems like shit logic, but it's just common sense really.
I dont play my heart out like this when I'm scum guys T_T but theres only so much I can do when I'm bieng attacked from every single angle.
What makes you think you would find something overtly scummy in his play? Best way to catch scum Rayn is to notice how bloodthirsty he is and this game his jaws are just dripping. Hmm. Nha. rayn is pretty all over the place as town. More so than scum. Your own activity just makes him spend way more posts on you than "needed". Also rayn has provided multiple scumreads and townreads. With reasoning that go further than "all scummers are after me, the scumteam is superactive"
Scummers are active bro, that be a fact of life.
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gumshoe you are a cheap player.
I hope you are only cheap and not a cheap fucker who does not deserve any single bit of respect.
We lynch Steveling from our group.
~rayn
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On April 03 2014 01:29 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:25 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,
Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling raynpelikonoshi - likely town pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe gumshoe - scummy 90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap" Steveling - neutral It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure). but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town. I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good. Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine. We seem to have a different take on going all out, then Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.
I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD. There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1. Sigh, your really over thinking it, in Cultured I had a similar all out green read on a player called Mocsta, I just think your town bro, why ya gotta hate me for it T_T also I understand there are reasons to do what I did, but the negatives are 1) instant ire of town 2) easy point for scum to jump on 3) doesnt help me at all as scum, because as you said, I am more likely to know your alignment if I'm scum, therefore there are no realy lynch benefits. The only real reason I'd defend you is because I dont want you to get lynched / :
Just because you had a similar read in a different game it doesn´t have to be the same kind of play here. You defending me is not what makes you seem scummy, it´s just that it also doesn´t make you look town.
Also I think it was pretty clear that I wouldn´t get lynched just because of the bandwagon that was forming. It takes more than just that. So I don´t think it put you in immediate danger.
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On April 03 2014 01:34 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:24 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 03 2014 01:22 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:17 Steveling wrote:
Gum, when I started being active today first thing I did was filter you and raynkoshi.
You can check my post on them, frankly I didn't find a single anti town thing.
My view on them hasn't changed since then as well, their case on you was solid.
Anyway, we should get some heat from other cells as well, guys?
Promote discussion pls. I adressed that case here 2: I apologize for that point ) : Honestly I was overthinking it, if we had CONFIRMED scum why lynch them then and there? I thought, towns are notorious for bieng lazy later on so I thought it no problem to just leave them till the last minute, they might even slip / :. That said, Rayn has twisted that whole conversation in 2 ways.
1: It stemmed from Geript doing Geript things, Rayn said he was confirmed maf which he doesn't even bilieve anymore
2: I meant in the case that we have 100 percent confirmed scum, which we will never have obs / : so yeah we should lynch the scummiest people first, I will concede that. But how does any of that make me scum? Why take on such a hard position.
Point 3: Contradicting myself. I'm not the best player man T_T Rayn pretty much is, if I make mistakes I'm sorry, I know it dont make your job easier none. The meta argument is so clear to me, but I guess I cant blame others for not seeing it / : and the whole me bieng a hypocrite for not considering you scum too is bull because I did consider you ) : and it was Rayn who dragged me into that fight.
But honestly forget all that man, listen to the thread, not one person this game has defended or backed me up / : (except you) am I really that gone? Is scum really that meek? I know that seems like shit logic, but it's just common sense really.
I dont play my heart out like this when I'm scum guys T_T but theres only so much I can do when I'm bieng attacked from every single angle.
What makes you think you would find something overtly scummy in his play? Best way to catch scum Rayn is to notice how bloodthirsty he is and this game his jaws are just dripping. Hmm. Nha. rayn is pretty all over the place as town. More so than scum. Your own activity just makes him spend way more posts on you than "needed". Also rayn has provided multiple scumreads and townreads. With reasoning that go further than "all scummers are after me, the scumteam is superactive" Scummers are active bro, that be a fact of life.
We are not scum. We are not. Now let me tell you some harsh truth in case you are town. And I am only typing this because you swore on your life. (who the fuck does that anyway but w.e)
Look at where this game is going. You do see everybody is taking our side and you will get lynched? You see this happening right?
This is not because rayn & I are scum and our scumbuddies are fucking you over because you are some smart guy that found out we are scum and they are all protecting us by making you look insane. This is because you are playing like a an insane tool, and everybody knows/sees that you will be the lynch in our group. It is literally impossible (or at least infinite times harder) for scum to lynch us over you because then they need to make a bullshit case on rayn, and defend your crazyness.
There are 2 guys currently hinting that it might be Steve that is scum (mderg and Palmar), LOOK at how they both don't think that it is us who is scum, even then they go straight against your 100% townread on Steve and 100% scumread on us.
You do see what is happening in this thread right? Who the fuck do you think you are?
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On April 03 2014 01:36 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
gumshoe you are a cheap player.
I hope you are only cheap and not a cheap fucker who does not deserve any single bit of respect.
We lynch Steveling from our group.
~rayn
Rayn you look pretty cary right now in my head, like a two headed dragon.
Our group is confusing T_T can we just go last and end the game before it gets to us?
Making a case on Balla, I think his group should go first, also I dont care whose mayor anymore, Holy's right regardless his colour, it really doesnt matter so long as they promise not to be a cowboy.
You want my vote you can have it.
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