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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:05 GMT
#2890
Also steve if hes scum why not just vote prp? What does he care? He honestly bilieves ceph is scum, thats the only reason he would act like this.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:07 GMT
#2892
On April 08 2014 04:55 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:54 gumshoe wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:51 Cephiro wrote:
I'm voting geript because I believe him to be scum. This isn't a setup where there are any benefits for town to choose another town target to lynch. I believe that prplhz is town, and him being lynched instead of me doesn't get us anywhere.

So I am doing the thing that every townie should do in my situation, vote for the scumread and encourage others to do so as well.

Everyone, vote geript and lynch scum.


You know you are town correct?


Obviously. I wouldn't argue for this otherwise. -_-


If Geript is scum we wont get a majority on him, theyre is no way we can lynch him at this point. I understand you need to do what you think is right, but if you vote geript, you are guranteeing a town lynch (your own) whereas if you vote prp, who knows,
I promise you you'll be pleasantly surprised : D it is 50 50 afterall and you can be excused for 1 bad read seeing as you were busy / :

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:08 GMT
#2893
Cephiro you agree rayn was scum right?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:11 GMT
#2895
On April 08 2014 05:03 Steveling wrote:
Yes let's jump on the crazy train along with getript who doesn't understand that palmar was scum.

I'm still undecided but I really want to vote getript since I don't think he's retarded irl.


Also please stop posting stuff like this steve ) : its not called for.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:16 GMT
#2899
On April 08 2014 05:11 Cephiro wrote:
No, I don't. Why else would I suggest to lynch Steveling in my post? I think his reaction to the whole rayn incident was way over the top.


Palmer wanted a lynch in my cell, why would he risk steve like that if rayn was town? it makes no sense. Similarly why would steve push for a lynch? If rayn was indeed town, I was offering a no lynch, they could just agree and move on. The reason Palmar had to push it is because Rayn was scum and he need me or steve to die. He didnt care who / :

Steve is not scum, Rayn is, Rayn and Palmar town read each other super hard but flip floped on everyone else in theyre cells. Similarly they both called prplz confirmed town...

If we lynch prplz and hes scum then that proves steve and me are innocent (this lynch is happening purely because of us) if we lynch geript we learn fuck all. Are you really going to screw town over in favour of your own selfish read when you havent saw fit to even play the game till now?

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:18 GMT
#2901
On April 08 2014 05:14 Cephiro wrote:
Also I'm not looking to get excused, things happened and that's just how life goes sometimes. But it's why I'm here to do what I can while I still have the chance.

Why are you treating geript like it's a lynch that will never happen? As far as I've experienced, those are the very lynches that end up going wrong when people are certain that someone can't be lynched. To me it looks like there's more than enough people around.

I'm not going to give up on my read that easily. Lynch geript.


cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


This guy right here didnt give a shit till we started trying to lynch prplz, he has been pushing for you all day, do you think hes town? If prplz was town and geript was scum, why wouldnt he just sit back and let me take the blame for a mislynch?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:21 GMT
#2902
On April 08 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


That's legit.
Which information you mean though?


He is lying, do not listen, what is cephs motive if hes scum? Walks into thread and starts a new wagon thereby ensuring his lynch because hes doing what he thinks is right? This play is fiercely independent, ceph is townier for it / : not scummier. Also
Holy are you saying that he didnt catchup on the thread before posting? wtf are you talking about.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#2903
Geript? If prplz is scum, why is pushing you instead of prplz? Theyre is no reason to do that, the only explanation is he is following his own reads, just like you!

Now can you two get along?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#2905
EBWOP

meant if ceph is scum.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#2906
Watch holy attack me on that in 5 4 3 2 1!
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:30 GMT
#2912
On April 08 2014 05:28 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


Just wow. Just because I haven't been posting and completely devoting myself to the game doesn't mean I don't have a general understanding of what has happened. It'd be absolutely retarded if I came here trying to convince you to lynch geript with having not read the thread at all, would it not?

The information is there, posted for everyone whom reads the thread to see it. Why should I not have it? That's a horrible accusation.


BOOM, This is the guy who is happy so long as anybody but prplz is lynched. Holy flare is the number 1 player on tl, he is not this dumb.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:33 GMT
#2914
On April 08 2014 05:29 Steveling wrote:
You are making stuff up now HF, you accused gumshoe of this.


You know why hes doing this right? Cause if prplz is lynched, we no lynch, then lynch him and win. This is check mate right here. Thats why hes so despreate. Dude hasn't once considered prp scum even though he was the one who told us rayn and plam were scum (prps best buddies) for someone who says he doesnt care, holy clearly has an agenda, vote Prplz and we win the game.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#2915
[QUOTE]On April 08 2014 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
his comeback stated:

[QUOTE]On April 08 2014 04:00 Cephiro wrote:
Online till deadline from now. I figure I owe the other players at least that much.

There are several reasons for why I haven't been actively playing, but they're not of importance. I'll post my thoughts on today's lynch and the remaining cells in a moment. It will be brief.[/QUOTE]

if he cared and was catching up that many pages (it's been well over 30+ today and at the time around coags lynch) he would have posted something more substantial on his comeback, if he was town and cared he would post before he started reading to let us know that we could be expecting him


all evidence points to him just not caring about today at all[/QUOTE]

If he was scum why would he not care o_0 this is the day hed play hardest, what are you smoking right now Holy? I want some.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:37 GMT
#2922
On April 08 2014 05:35 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

No I do not know how to get your Honoured Alliance and Fought to the end relations so high
+ Show Spoiler +
I am testing out a new format since I find it interesting


Okay. First of all there is no focus at all on My group or Holyflare's Group. I am going to assume that mafia were set on winning the first three groups. Either that or the Mafia are very comfortable with the people in the last two groups that they don't need to worry about anything. I feel like I am probably one of the best candidates for down in group 5, so I'm going to toss the second theory out.

After all, before I started yelling a lot of people thought Rayn was town even though he was modkilled, and there was no way that Palmar knew that we would suddenly turn on him.

If we do use this horrible associative WIFORM read, certaintly prplhz does look bad, as detailed by town members who are dead set on using associative reads

Associative Reads: -10




Active- Look, most of the members of the game are lurking, and generally lurking is a great strategy for mafia if the town is lurking too. Since there are more lurkers than remaining mafia members it isn't a bad idea. That being said Prphz has lurked pretty hard this past day. Even though I was gone for essentially the entirety of today I don't feel like I missed much

Active: +5 (-3/Year)




"I totally knew Palmar was scum" Check out this post
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2014 10:26 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:45 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:43 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:36 getmoript wrote:
Hell did you see how many times his reads changed at the end. Like his first list of scumreads had both Ceph and me as scum. Like WTF. Then when you read that post it's even more full of total WTF. I don't think Sent is great as town, but I refuse to believe that he is that incapable or stupid as town. Like that's not in his game. Generally, when it comes between Dumb or Scum it's often more correct to assume the latter than the former.


Stop being stupid. Palmar sheeped his scum read (me) on to sentinel to look towny but failed. The more you try and reason a town palmar the more likely mafia you are geript.


So we should stop trying to reason things out and looking for scummy connections?

Good to know.

~Cav


No im reasoning with you here : D lets arrive at the truth together k?


I'm trying to. Also, I'm going to post my thoughts on the other two in my cell.

Cephiro really needs to talk more before we finalize our lynch, and his vote on Coag is complete bullshit because he didn't mention Coag at any point during his giant wall-of-text posts. I don't think he even acknowledged that Coag was in the game up until that point. We know nothing about him because he's hardly even playing.

Prp was jumping around and being mega wishy-washy about Sentinel's lynch. These three posts:

dunno maybe sent is scum

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel


JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL

A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY


meh

##Vote Coagulation


Are evidence of clear flimsy vote switching. Prp is scummy, but we know next to nothing about Cephiro other than his early game posts, and he pretty much coasted up until this point.

Personally, I think there's plenty of information that makes the Cavborg look townie and prp look scummy. The only issue is that Ceph hasn't said shit other than those giant wall-of-text posts and a vote on Coag with no reasoning behind it. (Seriously the dude doesn't even admit that he's sheeping someone wtf?)

With information like that in the thread, it's a little odd that people just go "Palmar was scum because Sentinel selfvoted meta meta meta." Sentinel's lynch was clearly a big deal to a certain someone, but we're all overlooking it because we think Palmar was scum. Honestly, what other reason would prp have to flip flop like that before the lynch? It's not the best evidence, but it seems solid enough to start asking more questions.

Prp, why were you flip flopping around Sentinel's lynch? You seemed like you were dead-set on voting Sentinel off, and then you kinda flipped back to Coag for no particular reason. Elaborate more pls.

~Cav

Yes.

At the beginning of the day I filtered [UoN]Sentinel and concluded that he was town. That's why I didn't do much today, the lynch was going on Coagulation and I was perfectly happy with that. At the same time people were poking [UoN]Sentinel and Coagulation and I didn't think there was any reason for me to clutter the thread too much.

I came into this thread tonight around 40 mins before deadline. I saw that Palmar had moved his vote to [UoN]Sentinel and I thought that this was a little odd because I had a firm town read on [UoN]Sentinel but at the same time I also had a firm town read on Palmar so I started doubting myself. In any case I noticed that it was 30 minutes since Palmar had moved his vote but no one else had moved their votes and I found this odd because Palmar's opinion usually carries a lot of weight. (Later I realized that it was because Palmar wasn't actually pushing [UoN]Sentinel but just placing his vote). I thought to myself that I didn't really know who to lynch. On one hand I thought [UoN]Sentinel was town but on the other hand my biggest town read thought he was scum.

Anyway, I decided to vote for [UoN]Sentinel simply to see what would happen. Maybe scum wanted to switch away from Coagulation but were afraid to be first vote and maybe there was some information to gain from voting patterns. I did not believe that [UoN]Sentinel would be lynched at this point.

Then suddenly three other people also switched their votes and I wrote to Palmar and asked him to remember to say if he saw anything suspicious. It was getting close to deadline and I didn't really know what was going on so I wanted his thoughts before he died. Then [UoN]Sentinel made a post that could only come from a townie, the one where he changed all of his reads and voted for himself. This convinced me that [UoN]Sentinel had to be town and I switched my vote back to Coagulation. I still didn't think there was any danger of a [UoN]Sentinel lynch at this point, I had counted 5-6 votes for [UoN]Sentinel and that left plenty of votes for Coagulation.

Hence the flip flopping. I voted for [UoN]Sentinel because Palmar's vote had me doubting and because of curiosity, and I changed my vote back because [UoN]Sentinel made a post I don't think scum can make. That's also why, when Coagulation flipped town, I started thinking that Palmar had to be scum.


Really? You decided to bandwangon [UoN]Sentinel because you concluded he is town. Suddenly people 'fall for your trap' and you conclude that palmar is mafia? Why would a random voteswitch from a townie to a (assumed) townie be indicative of mafia action?

Seems like a really shitty reason to believe that Palmar is scum. Sure there is additional explination here but hindsight is 20/20

Likewise his case on steveling is so forshadowed I can hear the inception music. He starts off with the classic question "Can you give me reads on 9 people you have never thought deeply about right now or I call you scum"
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 02:21 prplhz wrote:
@Steveling What is your scumteam right now?


Fabricated Claims: -25


Defensive Play

Well, lastly I tried to look for what Prplhz thought of Geprit and Cephiro. I couldn't find anything. It is sad to think that Cephiro has more analysis on the group than Prplhz. After all your group you have a 50% chance of hitting mafia. As town, it is vitally important that you win your group and he hasn't been doing much to stick his head out and go after someone in his group.
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 17:44 prplhz wrote:
Decided that Cephiro is scum.

Lets make the lynch between Cephiro and me?

##Vote Cephiro

Seems a really odd attitude for town to have

Plotting against us! -15



The point system was meaningless. The only reason why I did it because I thought it was fun
##unvote
##Vote Prplhz

+ Show Spoiler [Bonus] +

On April 07 2014 02:29 prplhz wrote:
List of people who give more than zero fucks: prplhz

On April 08 2014 02:02 prplhz wrote:
I'm out of this game, I just cannot read another gumshoe post.

I don't think gumshoe is scum because it's impossible to fake this kind of dumb. I still think raynpelikonoshi was town. I think Steveling is scum. I think it is weird that Palmar changed his read on him in his last-reads-post without saying it in the thread. I also think it's weird that Steveling liked gumshoe's associative reads post on me so much, when Steveling didn't seem to agree with the scum reads in the post, especially Balla24 and mderg. If Holyflare doesn't get scum lynched today he's probably scum. Saying that I'm so town it hurts and then afking when he has the ability to get me off the hook is

As for Balla24 inactivity:

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:28 Balla24 wrote:
Ill be away monday to tuesday so you should put me 2nd otherwise I will barely be around during my cells lynch.


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:58 Balla24 wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:
Alright sentinel, can't argue now, I'm off.

Ryankoshi weren't you saying our group would be first?
Do I get 3 more days to play in this logic forsaken game if you put us up as 2nd?

That's the reason we go second.

Again. I have an interview during slot 3 so unless you are confident I dont need to be there much do not put cell 4 3rd.


Not gonna check this thread any more.



T_T Its just so beautiful.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:42 GMT
#2925
On April 08 2014 05:37 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
are you kidding me? he wouldn't care because you are pushing a lynch onto prpl and all ceph had to do was afk, votes are all on ceph > prpl so he's forced to return and defend


If by all you mean 1 vote differential then yes you are right.
Why are you making stuff up again?
Damn it, whenever it's lynch time confusing things happen.


Whats confusing? Ceph doesnt give a shit cause hes busy town, nothing new there, we lynched coag yesterday so were not doing that again. If hes scum, why not vote Prplz, he came in here with an original read that he was the most likely to give
(this is his cell afterall) cephs play screams townie, he does not care about getting lynched, he only cares about bieng right.

Also he offered us all his reads to / : whereas prpl hasnt said jack about who he thinks is scum and isnt here (his resoning for cephiro was the its not him pretty much), hes just defended himself and denied shit like palmar and rayn were scum.

As for holy, hes saying everything in his imagination to get ceph lynched without even once considering prplz is town, he has been consistently wrong this game and a poisen in towns side, do not listen to him.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:43 GMT
#2926
On April 08 2014 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
lsb's post is 1000000000x better than whatever gumshoe has been saying btw


THE BUS IS REAL, THE BUS IS REAL. YEAAAAAAAAH.

Ready to vote Prplz : D
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:52 GMT
#2930
On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.

It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment?


Why is prlz not here right now arguing your lynch? We are not lynching Geript. Period.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:55 GMT
#2933
Also I dont think you realize but geript has been trying, hard, I am not budging because I know Prplz is scum, he makes the most sense. Furthermore what do you think of holys shit accusation against you?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:58 GMT
#2936
On April 08 2014 05:54 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.

It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment?


We do care about this lynch. We're just trying to decide which one of you we want to lynch.

G wants you dead, btw.

~Cav


I pray you can convince him otherwise ) : for all our sakes, god speed cavalinho, I knew you once as a doc who got outed by Geript wanting to lynch you when you were both town (huh, tell him about that time will ya? Seems relevant) but I know you today................ as hope : D
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 21:03 GMT
#2943
On April 08 2014 05:57 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:52 gumshoe wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.

It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment?


Why is prlz not here right now arguing your lynch? We are not lynching Geript. Period.


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 08 2014 02:02 prplhz wrote:
I'm out of this game, I just cannot read another gumshoe post.

I don't think gumshoe is scum because it's impossible to fake this kind of dumb. I still think raynpelikonoshi was town. I think Steveling is scum. I think it is weird that Palmar changed his read on him in his last-reads-post without saying it in the thread. I also think it's weird that Steveling liked gumshoe's associative reads post on me so much, when Steveling didn't seem to agree with the scum reads in the post, especially Balla24 and mderg. If Holyflare doesn't get scum lynched today he's probably scum. Saying that I'm so town it hurts and then afking when he has the ability to get me off the hook is

As for Balla24 inactivity:

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:28 Balla24 wrote:
Ill be away monday to tuesday so you should put me 2nd otherwise I will barely be around during my cells lynch.


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:58 Balla24 wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:
Alright sentinel, can't argue now, I'm off.

Ryankoshi weren't you saying our group would be first?
Do I get 3 more days to play in this logic forsaken game if you put us up as 2nd?

That's the reason we go second.

Again. I have an interview during slot 3 so unless you are confident I dont need to be there much do not put cell 4 3rd.


Not gonna check this thread any more.

Because of you it seems. Geript on the other hand has not said that'd he'd be away or anything of the sort. I just don't see scum prplhz leaving it into the air like that, blatantly saying he won't be around anymore and not post anymore, when he said he'd make the lynch between me and himself.

Or are you saying that if he's scum instead of geript, he'd actually leave the job for his scumbuddies to ensure a mislynch on me? -> Prp & holy & ? & ? in this case?

It just seems too unlikely to me.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:51 LSB wrote:
Geript isn't scum, and there is no way we are moving this wagon all the way over there

Either vote for Prphlz or explain why you are 100% confident.


How about you vote for geript or explain why you are 100% confident. I doubt you have reason to be 100% confident unless you're scum. I certainly am not, I am merely acting towards what I believe to be correct.


Palmar is scum, palmar gives us rayns alignment ( palmer pushed for a lynch im my cell, which means rayn was scum and to win our cell scum would need me and steve to vote each other) rayns alignment gives us Geripts ( Wanted him dead 100 percent) they both said that no matter what, we should not lynch Prplz. At the time of them saying these things they pretty much ran the game, there was no reason for them to assume we would not listen to them. Therefore they did not bus. Why would scum lie about lies when they have no reason to suspect town thinks they're lies?

Basically if Rayn and Palmer are scum (which they are) Prplz is scum.

Also Holy hasnt cared about this game until now and we both know his accusation against you was scummy as shit. Why would he step in like this if Geript is his buddy? He could just let me lynch prplz and then laugh as town rips me apart. Holy has also offered shit reasons for why Prplz is town, yet defended him vehemently. Sorry bud, but it just makes all the sense no?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
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