On April 07 2014 10:20 prplhz wrote: gumshoe you literally said that "you were part of an organized effort to destroy me before day 1"
You all can agree on me without agreeing on the order 0-o just because you work together on several fronts doesn't mean you'll always want to do the same thing.
Also by before day 1 I meant before cell 1 : P just in case you were nitpicking that.
Rayn was angry about Koshis choice, we pretty much agree they were scum, so the idea of a disagreeing scummer is wierd yes, but it did happened.
Your problem Geript is that you rather assume 5 people are idiots, rather than that you were wrong ) : honestly scum just didnt give a shit about that lynch because palmar wasn't under fire. Which is why several people were utterly apathetic.
People are stupid in general. That's not an assumption that's a fact.
This is your issue Geript ) : you assume the worst of your fellows and you consider yourself inflatable. As a result you will always unrestimate your opponents, and because you have such a low opinion of others you will never be able to convince them even when your right.
I have nothing else to say to you.
So I'm incapable of flatus?[/QUOTE]
I fucking knew you would poke that balloon XD posting on a phone, mistakes are inevitable.
On April 07 2014 10:19 prplhz wrote: Scum team maverick?
Team tries to communicate with him in thread instead of in QT?
No further comments.
Also we have a player(likely scum) who got drunk and mod killed as well as a townie who died by 1 vote because he voted himself... Are scum infallible prplz? We are all equally capable of greatness and foolishness, this town, scum Included, have demonstrated both XD
On April 07 2014 10:19 prplhz wrote: Scum team maverick?
Team tries to communicate with him in thread instead of in QT?
No further comments.
Also we have a player(likely scum) who got drunk and mod killed as well as a townie who died by 1 vote because he voted himself... Are scum infallible prplz? We are all equally capable of greatness and foolishness, this town, scum Included, have demonstrated both XD
You are so dumb right now, I'm regretting ever having used that word for anything or anyone ever before.
Lol, adhominems, for when you can't win an argument cause your scum XD
People, listen, if this was a normal game cephiro would be on the verge of a modkill... He entered the game latest... If it looks to good to be true, it probably is. Palmer, confirmed scum, wanted him dead. Cephiro has not posted at all on tl since his last post in this thread, which means he's probably just busy. In which case if he's scum, he doesn't give a shit about his team. Cephiro's not a cold or lazy guy like that ) :
It is far more likely a townie feels nothing for a town that's suspicious of him, than a scummer leaving his team high and low. There's a distinct sense of isolation to his play that bemoans busy town, what is the motive for play this bad if he's scum? Cephiro's no coag people ) :
Speaking of which, Yesterday we lynched the safe scummy lurker, how did that work out for us? Can we grow a pair today? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?
Your problem Geript is that you rather assume 5 people are idiots, rather than that you were wrong ) : honestly scum just didnt give a shit about that lynch because palmar wasn't under fire. Which is why several people were utterly apathetic.
People are stupid in general. That's not an assumption that's a fact.
This is your issue Geript ) : you assume the worst of your fellows and you consider yourself inflatable. As a result you will always unrestimate your opponents, and because you have such a low opinion of others you will never be able to convince them even when your right.
I have nothing else to say to you.
So I'm incapable of flatus?
I fucking knew you would poke that balloon XD posting on a phone, mistakes are inevitable.
Oh
Its ok, towns been shitting on me all game : D I'm used to it.
Respond to this whenever you can Holy, that is if you still give a shit.
On April 04 2014 19:55 Holyflare wrote: Cell 1
Cell 2 Holyflare Tehpoofter mderg
Lynch poofter, lynch cephiro, no lynch gumshoe group etc etc etc
Holy when and why did you start reading Mdern as town?
On another note.
Prpl had no reason to be switching between 2 town whatsoever if he was scum. He gave a very coherent answer when asked what his motive was at the lynch. There is no reason whatsoever for scum to even be around at this lynch let alone do what prpl did.
Of course he did, do you think scum actually expected the sentinel lynch to go as far as it did? Say we ended that lynch at 7 4. Coag flips green, palmar and prplz look uber town 0_0 of course when the sent wagon got serious, Prplz realized its better to look like a waffle, then a guy who was part of an 11th hour vote swap onto a townie. Unfortunately the way the vote went exonerated both townies, scum could not have anticipated that. They made these mistakes because they had stopped caring about the lynch, they no longer cared about which way it went, they were merely trying to profit as much as they could off the chaos. They got greedy / :
Above all, Palmer wanted ceph dead, Rayn wanted geript dead( for attacking Prplz might I add / they both loved Prp. You agree with me completely holy on Rayn and Palmer didnt you? What reason do two scum completely in control of the game buss one of thier own and put that cell in the second slot??.
Similarly, if Rayn was scum, me and steve are town, Slam is also likely town based off his interactions with Rayn. Tell me, why is there not a single scum vote on Prplz if hes town?
People, somethings wrong with Holy / : DO NOT sheep him, I repeat, DO NOT sheep the Shepard.
There is no reason whatsoever for scum to even be around at this lynch let alone do what prpl did.
(yes I will keep posting objection themes every time someone states a contradiction)
Palmar, dare I say a much better player than Purp, was both around during that lynch and swapping between Coag and Sent... Even if I'm wrong about the exact reason, that alone proves scum still had an agenda at that point / :
On April 07 2014 23:36 Holyflare wrote: Mderg has stuck around, made some good points and isn't scum
Read mdergs game i linked, read what i wrote. - 1 scum, next cell plz.
So just to confirm with scum geript here. Plam, rayn, hf confirmed town now right?
I think we lynch geript to see if he confirmed me palmar and rayn as town earlier.
I still think he slipped that palmar, nme and you are town :p
so steve is scum rayn and gumshoe are town.
Steve modconfirmed town zzz
Vote gumshoe and win
(Later on, you claimed Rayn was scum for his out burst, but after I attacked Palmer this came out)
? I just said rayn told me you were scum, he was also town
(what you said after you switched onto sent for no given reason)
I vote for scum
then after Palmer flipped...
It's simple rayn is scum. He called me town when i wasn't even doing anything. That's rayn scum buddy thing.
You are bad if you think palmar was town.
You barely offer reads for why you do things and you change your mind constantly, yet present your word as fact... there is no reason we should listen to another word out of your mouth this game.
Geript, I know I said I was done talking to you but I've realized something quite important ) : two people have unjustly slighted you this game, one of those people is me, would you like to know who the other is?
On April 07 2014 23:36 Holyflare wrote: Mderg has stuck around, made some good points and isn't scum
Read mdergs game i linked, read what i wrote. - 1 scum, next cell plz.
So just to confirm with scum geript here. Plam, rayn, hf confirmed town now right?
I think we lynch geript to see if he confirmed me palmar and rayn as town earlier.
I still think he slipped that palmar, nme and you are town :p
so steve is scum rayn and gumshoe are town.
Steve modconfirmed town zzz
Vote gumshoe and win
(Later on, you claimed Rayn was scum for his out burst, but after I attacked Palmer this came out)
? I just said rayn told me you were scum, he was also town
(what you said after you switched onto sent for no given reason)
I vote for scum
then after Palmer flipped...
It's simple rayn is scum. He called me town when i wasn't even doing anything. That's rayn scum buddy thing.
You are bad if you think palmar was town.
You barely offer reads for why you do things and you change your mind constantly, yet present your word as fact... there is no reason we should listen to another word out of your mouth this game.
So you're saying my reads can't evolve during the game? And 2 of those quotes are quite clearly jokes.
No, I'm saying you've been wrong all game and there's no reason you should keep presenting your reads as fact. Besides You only provide town with useful information after the fact ( if you had mentioned that Palmer was scum for sheeping you, we could have at least tried to lynch him ) then accuse us of being idiots for bieng slower than you.
This is not relevant right now though. I have proven why your reasoning on prplz is wrong
1 :if anyone but prplz is scum, that would mean rayn bussed Geript and palm bussed cephiro, when neither were in a position to have to do so ( you yourself considered them confirmed town) rayn and Koshi both wanted this group second, why if cephiro or Geript is scum? That and Both of them love prplz for pretty weak reasons
2 : prplz had a motive for vote switching. Scum were trying to feint a vote onto sent so when coag flipped they would look town. Prplz flipped back cause he realized how shitty he'd look if sent actually flipped green. Palmar himself was doing this, so your reasoning that scum have no motive to be around or active at that time is flat out wrong.
On April 08 2014 00:35 Holyflare wrote: I vote for scum. This game makes bussing super good because then you look like town if you are unflipped and right.
See, that's where your wrong. There is a tremendous amount of strategy to this game. You think rayn and Palmer are scum, which means two things. Scum chose the order and Scums confirmed two strongest groups were in the top three which implies scum were trying to win this game in three days.
If they can do that, they don't actually have to buss, because theyre weakest players are in the last two cells. How do I know this is true though? Because there are no scum/players in this game better than palmar or rayn ( do you know of any?). Which means the last two groups were the ones they were least confident in. So yes, bussing is possible, but not at all required if scum can choose the order.
Your off your game holy, if you truly believe in your current reads, then you should know that I found out about Palmer, mdern, Steve, rayn all on my own while you were too busy bieng pocketed. Why am I wrong now when my arguments are better than they've ever been?
On April 08 2014 00:49 Steveling wrote: Tbf, with all that being said and the theories and what not if ceph does not appear and contribute he's the best lynch for today. But then again that's what coag was as well.
I lurk and get lynched as town all the time. Scum have more of a reason not to lurk because the meta doesn't favour lurkers. Besides, We fucking lynched the lurker yesterday we are not doing it today T-T. We are winning this game, not campaigning for a better tl.
Lsb, tehpoofer, mdern, I really want to hear your thoughts / : where y'all at.
[QUOTE]On April 08 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote: i'm voting to lynch gumshoe btw[/QUOTE
[quote]Rayn and palmar are both scum.[/quote]
Holy, rayn and palm were scum and picked the order to win in three days. Why do you not buy that? If your town your obviously the biggest threat to them in this game. They put you in 4th so that they wouldn't have to deal with you. Plain and simple. This disproves your notion that scum need to bus, they dont, they just need to get the undecided groups out of the way.
You think Rayn and Palmer are scum, You know your town if your town. Of all the people in this game, no one should agree with me more. So why dont you?
Holy is full of it / : he cant make his mind up, hes not trying to solve the game or convince people of his reads. We should not listen to anything from him. If he realizes his folly and comes around to Prplz, then maybe hes worth hearing out.