Cell Mini Mafia - Page 11

On April 03 2014 03:10 getmoript wrote:

He wouldn't be my top lynch but I could see him being in my to lynch pile.

On April 03 2014 03:13 getmoript wrote:

That cuts both ways. Like you've continued to ignore my point on prplhz opener. Balla had a decent post on the policy lynch part of it, but I've bothered to reiterate the main point over and over and you keep on ignoring it and calling it shit logic when it's definitely not.
~g

On April 02 2014 04:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

I just figured it out. I was approaching the game stupidly and from the wrong perspective.

~rayn

On April 02 2014 05:19 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Why does prplhz's "stance" mean anything? That's not what i read. Or, it's what i read but what i read between the lines is "prplhz doesn't care about who the mayor is and if prplhz talks about mayor election or who should be the mayor much in this game he is probably scum because he didn't care about it". I agree it does not matter shit who the mayor is.
~rayn

VE has a meta read on prplhz which is "If he brings up policy d1 he is scum." All he did early on was policy about random stuff hydras etc. Plus he had that exceptionally weird "maybe the mayor doens't matter stance." I'm going to put the stamp of approval 100% as confirmed scum on prplhz. It literally doesn't make any sense. Rayn backing up prplhz stance saying, "I don't think the mayor matters either" isn't the questionable thing to me. That's a normal stance to take. It's specifcally the "MAYBE the mayor doens't matter." Adding in maybe there is ridiculously odd and Rayn not reading it that way especially when prplhz finishes the post saying that he cares about the order of the lynches WHICH IS WHAT THE MAYOR DECIDES is super weird. I have a really hard time thinking any towny could ever post that. So Rayn trying to pressure me here instead of prplhz is super suspect.

On April 03 2014 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
If you want my comments on the "maybe" owrd you seem to think is a big deal my stance is that you are being ridiculous because imo it doesn't mean anything and on top of that prplhz can be extremely wishy-washy (i would say he usually is) as town. So it definitely does not make him mafia.

~rayn

On April 03 2014 03:42 getmoript wrote:

Now you're just straw manning my argument here. My early argument for you being scum is moreso based on how you prefer to play scum which is specifically to protect your scumbuddies and push mislynches. Go back and reread it from my perspective; pretend you're me and I'm town. What you see is:
prplhz: funky post
rayn: bs +1
geript: attacks funky post
rayn: +1 for completely different reasons, doesn't call/think/pressure prplhz
rayn: looks at geript policy preference post, pushes geript, ignores prplhz for making a pretty analogous stance.

Like it's really odd that you didn't push both of us for the same thing. You've done it before and you'll do it later on.

On April 03 2014 03:43 getmoript wrote:

I don't appreciate being baited with something as dumb and obvious as you're doing.
~g

On April 03 2014 03:30 getmoript wrote:
Re: part 1
Gumshoe lying. I don't see a real point to Gumshoe baiting or "baiting" you. I don't really think anything can come of that, but I don't think your conclusion is logical either. If he's actually baiting you with Steve and you ignore it, he loses nothing by doubling down on the bait. This isn't in any way alignment indicative.
Re: part 2
I can see both sides of this. Like I don't think gumshoe thinks that it's pro-town to be unreadable, but I think you're taking the quote out of context. For me, the quote you post gives a hint of gumshoe being paranoid town. Like, of course he's going to try and read his own pod first. If he's town, why should he give any rat's ass what you read him as until he's confident that you're town. IE why should he care about what your read on him is until he's sure that he's not pocketed/getting thrown for mislynch. For me, this point leans town to me; not definitely so but definitely not scum and 100% not strong scum.
Re: part 3
Gum dodging re: the Steve thing is ok. I don't find this particularly alignment indicative either way personally but I can see you calling it scummy. I don't think this is a strong argument for either alignment; this setup makes it super easy to call one guy town and one guy scum and call it a day.

On April 03 2014 03:47 getmoript wrote:

Which ones do you want me to answer? Like you keep up completely ignoring the points I'm making and spewing whatever crap you want to. I'm absolutely voting for you when you come up for lynch.
~g

On April 03 2014 03:56 Steveling wrote:
Because gumshoe actually bet his life on his alignment? And betting is prohibited?
Do you think swearing is something else than this?

Keep in mind that I could do the same and all this would be null, ryankoshi said so earlier, if I did this they would not target me with this anymore but I don't want to on principle.

On April 03 2014 03:56 getmoript wrote:

I don't know gumshoe used it in your situation as compared to mine; personally, I think you're either scum or tunnelling him ridiculously as town. I don't think he applies it to me because, as town, that's not how he reads me. He recognizes as town that I'm perfectly capable of being illogical/stupid at points. So, as town, he discards weak reads in favor of strong reads.

Like you think that everyone is going to act 100% the same as town and that's flat out not the case. People have different heuristics they use for different people. For example if I'm all trolly and useless and post spam for all of day 1, then you and palmer are going to read me as scum; but if Slam does it, then he's likely town for it. I don't see why you can't get that. Hell, you thought I was scum for a while in Cultured IIRC on D1; most of the thread definitely did, and Gumshoe made a really weird defense of me there too. When I was rereading last night and got to gumshoe's defense of me here, I was really skeptical and had to go reread cultured to get perspective. I think he can make that townread on me as town; I think he can make it as scum too, but I definitely think he can make it as town. So when you've been pushing on both of us when you should know that he's capable of making good reads on me, that's really sketch bro.
~g

On April 03 2014 04:02 Steveling wrote:



This is wrong. You made sound judgment all game long. You made a solid case.
Then there's that.
No it's not ok and I don't care that no one OBVIOUSLY followed you.
If you can't understand that what you did is scummy and game ruining then we have an issue here.

On April 03 2014 04:08 mderg wrote:

I think that exactly him being overly defensive makes him look like town. There´s no reason why scum would be worried about you changing your stance. If not a single player is sharing your stance scum doesn´t need to be worried.

This sudden switch doesn´t make any sense to me. That´s not any less scummy than Steveling being overly defensive.

On April 03 2014 04:12 mderg wrote:

I´d really appreciate you explaining that yourself.