He lied about the reason he voted rayn and lied about when he voted rayn, he said rayn called him mafia but didn't bury him so rayn must be mafia

And then he ninja unvoted rayn with no explanation

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 16:51 GMT

#592

So he spends all that time talking about me and then nothing on marv...?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 17:12 GMT

#616

So words and votes are flying but i don't see anyone talkin about mafia.

Palmar and prpl explain your shit. Why is everyone still ignoring thrawn?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 18:00 GMT

#641

The fuck are you saying tram? I turned on him when i proved he was a liar and then admitted it and then called rayn mafia for the remaining time and has ninja unvoted him while still calling him mafia. Why you not read thread?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 18:07 GMT

#645

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/446774-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-ii?page=17#337

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/446774-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-ii?page=23#444

2nd link most important link cz ninja unvote

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 18:22 GMT

#655

No he fucking said he put a vote down on rayn based on the tone of rayns post straight away regardless of the content which
A) is tterrible because he voted without reading the content
B) is a flat out lie because he asked something based on the content of rayns post before his vote went down anyway

So he got caught out in a "lie" and rayn called him mafia for other stuff. Thrawn's reaction is that rayn didn't keep hounding him about being mafia so rayn must be mafia. Thrawn thinks rayn is mafia but ninja unvotes him in vote thread without saying anything about it.

Thrawn is mafia

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 18:24 GMT

#657

He got called out for lying so what else can you do but admit it?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 18:48 GMT

#675

On March 27 2014 03:30 Palmar wrote:

Show nested quote +

fair enough, I get it now.

Do you think marv's push against me is genuine?

You can tell how it's not by the way he says he wants you to do things so he can see whether to unvote you or not

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 05:27 GMT

#743

So all those notes and then you vote palmar? Care to fully explain why when it seems like your biggest scum read is me?

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 05:38 GMT

#745

Yes, so you posted all those notes to have 0 conclusions and end up sheeping marv, so in reality all those notes mean nothing unless you are willing to point out who another scum is. Which you didn't.

So actually all those words meant nothing.

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 05:52 GMT

#747

Well screw your current vote, tell me what other conclusions you drew.

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 06:17 GMT

#749

So you call rayn scum, i call rayn scum. I am scum...? The reason for calling rayn scum was because robik looked suspicious and rayn said he was a town read and you agreed with me that rayn was being weird for the same reason. Sooo... You calling yourself scummy then?

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 06:55 GMT

#758

On March 27 2014 15:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
you called palmar scum, you called robik scum, you called rayn scum, then you called me scum, and that's all only in the first few pages of the game. i don't have a problem with someone being a loose cannon, but the problem is that the scumread you decided to "focus" on always happens to be the one that would allow you to look "best" considering current thread sentiment.

like earlier, marv asked you something about palmar. you said you'd lynch palmar after me.

so what does that mean? what is your actual read on palmar? you also ignored my question about marv's case

I dropped my scum read of palmar almost instantly because it was based off one post that i seemingly misread and rayn/robik looked scummy for greater points than 1 post. I fail to see how it's getting scum reads on things that "look best" because rayn looked awful and robik did too for having a strong read on rayn when i thought his opening posts were quite bad. I dropped that when i found out you lied. Ezpz.

And what question?

Also palmar you said you were going to win the belt. Why put no effort in the day you say you are best at?

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 07:26 GMT

#760

Well it's pretty redundant if he said he hadn't read his pm yet but i think that's probs a lie.

Why you so different to last game thrawn?

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 08:16 GMT

#767

On March 27 2014 17:11 Palmar wrote:

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No I know, which is why I generally don't claim it when I do, I do it occasionally in games where the role doesn't matter at all on day 1.

so you checked your role pm and you're scum right?

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 08:24 GMT

#771

On March 27 2014 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
oki doki :D

you have until tonight/tomorrow anyway (depending how impatient I am). Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me. It would be much more interesting for me personally.

marv y u say you could be wrong but then say that u haz actual case later?

On March 27 2014 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 08:25 GMT

#772

and palmar if marv didn't make this push on you and he wasn't in the game, who would be mafia? because you aint said shit about it and marv has been a relatively little bit of the posting in the thread so far

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 08:28 GMT

#773

On March 27 2014 16:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
how do you mean? are you talking about how i'm posting now or earlier? i don't think there should be any difference rgith now

earlier was completely different which you attributed to sleep fine

now is different because i am your top scum read barring your sheep on palmar who apparently hasn't checked his pm yet and you haven't been asking me questions about what i've said or trying to determine whether you are wrong or not

so, why are you so different? you are making statements but not doing the digging

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 09:13 GMT

#777

On March 27 2014 17:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
i don't know if you are my top scumread. if i had to answer that question superficially the answer would probably be "yes." but there are all these layers of paranoid association reads getting in the way, plus it seems like when you aren';t doing something I find scummy, you're doing something I find townie.....

so I have no idea. and now palmar comes out with his claim of not having read his PM, which I guess is most likely to be true because I know he's done it before.

why am I different? lol, I wish I knew. I think I have this problem where if I play too many games in a row I start forgetting how to find mafia or something

you are making statements but not doing the digging

Holyflare

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March 27 2014 09:24 GMT

#781

On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:

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you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE

if palmar hasn't read his role pm then he is pushing marv based on any alignment, what if it's a scum pm? what if he has actually read it? palmar's play this game has been useless so it's no strong leap to go from useless palmar to ---> scummy palmar and it certainly isn't something to paint someone scummy over for making a case on it

tldr: Palmar doesn't care about finding mafia, even though he kinda tries to make it look like he's interested. He has no real reads on anyone even though he's given superficial reads which require no thought. He's inconsistent in a spineless way re:gumshoe. His attitude towards me has been pretty spineless because frankly he doesn't know how to deal with me, whereas if he were town he'd smack me down rather than practically have me make him vote me. The dude is mafia.

the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now?