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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:24 GMT
#781
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE


if palmar hasn't read his role pm then he is pushing marv based on any alignment, what if it's a scum pm? what if he has actually read it? palmar's play this game has been useless so it's no strong leap to go from useless palmar to ---> scummy palmar and it certainly isn't something to paint someone scummy over for making a case on it

tldr: Palmar doesn't care about finding mafia, even though he kinda tries to make it look like he's interested. He has no real reads on anyone even though he's given superficial reads which require no thought. He's inconsistent in a spineless way re:gumshoe. His attitude towards me has been pretty spineless because frankly he doesn't know how to deal with me, whereas if he were town he'd smack me down rather than practically have me make him vote me. The dude is mafia.


the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 27 2014 09:26 GMT
#782
Vote Count


IAmRobik (0)- thrawn2112,

Palmar (3)- IAmRobik, Holyflare, marvellosity, thrawn2112, prplhz

raynpelikoneet (0)- thrawn2112, Holyflare

thrawn2112 (3)- raynpelikoneet, phagga, Holyflare, Palmar, gumshoe

marvellosity (1)- prplhz, Palmar, Palmar

prplhz (1): raynpelikoneet

Currently nobody is set to be lynched. You have left. If you see a mistake please notify me.
Also PM me for obs QT
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:29 GMT
#783
wait wtf rayn isn't even voting for thrawn anymore!??!!?!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 27 2014 09:31 GMT
#784
On March 27 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
wait wtf rayn isn't even voting for thrawn anymore!??!!?!

He basically ragequit the day because of prplhz.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:31 GMT
#785
On March 27 2014 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually just fuck it.
See you in 24 hours or so.
Policy.

##unvote
##vote prplhz

I don't even give a fuck if he is mafia or not because if he is not he is still playing towards mafia win condition.
I am not going to post until one of us dies.


oh... let's policy rayn for policying over his almost confirmed scum read since page 8!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 27 2014 09:32 GMT
#786
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE

PoE?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 27 2014 09:32 GMT
#787
On March 27 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE


if palmar hasn't read his role pm then he is pushing marv based on any alignment, what if it's a scum pm? what if he has actually read it? palmar's play this game has been useless so it's no strong leap to go from useless palmar to ---> scummy palmar and it certainly isn't something to paint someone scummy over for making a case on it

Show nested quote +
tldr: Palmar doesn't care about finding mafia, even though he kinda tries to make it look like he's interested. He has no real reads on anyone even though he's given superficial reads which require no thought. He's inconsistent in a spineless way re:gumshoe. His attitude towards me has been pretty spineless because frankly he doesn't know how to deal with me, whereas if he were town he'd smack me down rather than practically have me make him vote me. The dude is mafia.


the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now?


you just told me that it's pointless to think about marv's case becaue palmar hasn't read the pm

do you not understand what not reading a role PM means? it means you don't have the knowledge that scum has, it means that you are posting without knowing alignments. if someone hasb;t read their PM then it's absoultey impossible to figure out their alignment other than using PoE

as to the policy lynch question

honestly i would like to policy lynch him but I'm never able to follow through on those. i'm definitely going to include a rule about reading your role PM in future games

if you're gonna even try to figure out palmar's alignment then you must be open to the idea that he is lying about not reading his pm. is that what you're suggesting?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2014 09:34 GMT
#788
come on sheeples, it's time to get into line.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 27 2014 09:34 GMT
#789
@palmar what was that game where you wanted chezinu or caller modkilled for not reading their role pm and therefore not playing to their win conditions?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 27 2014 09:34 GMT
#790
On March 27 2014 18:32 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE

PoE?


process of elimination,

if you are going to vote for palmar, you need to justify it with one of 2 things

1 policy lynch for him being an asshoel
2 prove that he must be scum because you have town reads on everyone else
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 27 2014 09:35 GMT
#791
On March 27 2014 18:34 marvellosity wrote:
come on sheeples, it's time to get into line.


u think he's lying?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 27 2014 09:35 GMT
#792
On March 27 2014 18:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:32 prplhz wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE

PoE?


process of elimination,

if you are going to vote for palmar, you need to justify it with one of 2 things

1 policy lynch for him being an asshoel
2 prove that he must be scum because you have town reads on everyone else


or 3, that he's lying about not reading his PM
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:36 GMT
#793
On March 27 2014 18:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE


if palmar hasn't read his role pm then he is pushing marv based on any alignment, what if it's a scum pm? what if he has actually read it? palmar's play this game has been useless so it's no strong leap to go from useless palmar to ---> scummy palmar and it certainly isn't something to paint someone scummy over for making a case on it

tldr: Palmar doesn't care about finding mafia, even though he kinda tries to make it look like he's interested. He has no real reads on anyone even though he's given superficial reads which require no thought. He's inconsistent in a spineless way re:gumshoe. His attitude towards me has been pretty spineless because frankly he doesn't know how to deal with me, whereas if he were town he'd smack me down rather than practically have me make him vote me. The dude is mafia.


the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now?


you just told me that it's pointless to think about marv's case becaue palmar hasn't read the pm

do you not understand what not reading a role PM means? it means you don't have the knowledge that scum has, it means that you are posting without knowing alignments. if someone hasb;t read their PM then it's absoultey impossible to figure out their alignment other than using PoE

as to the policy lynch question

honestly i would like to policy lynch him but I'm never able to follow through on those. i'm definitely going to include a rule about reading your role PM in future games

if you're gonna even try to figure out palmar's alignment then you must be open to the idea that he is lying about not reading his pm. is that what you're suggesting?


Yes, regardless of his alignment he has done nothing this entire game and when someone has called him out on it he votes them as scum "because he hasn't read his pm" which is a totally fallacious argument to make as he legitimately has done nothing this game so the case is in fact true.

Not reading pm goes against your alignments wincon and should be dealt with by hosts anyway as he could be bussing his partner based on information he could have by reading his pm and it would alter his play.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2014 09:36 GMT
#794
probably/yes/no/don't care

last time he "didn't read his role PM" was Hero Mini Mafia, and in that game he genuinely tried, looked really town, and caught mafia.

Here, all what I said in my case is still true regardless.

We lynch Plamface.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 27 2014 09:37 GMT
#795
wtf marv
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2014 09:37 GMT
#796
don't understand what's hard to grasp.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:38 GMT
#797
On March 27 2014 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
oki doki :D

you have until tonight/tomorrow anyway (depending how impatient I am). Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me. It would be much more interesting for me personally.


marv y u say you could be wrong but then say that u haz actual case very soon after?

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.


marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2014 09:38 GMT
#798
On March 27 2014 18:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
oki doki :D

you have until tonight/tomorrow anyway (depending how impatient I am). Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me. It would be much more interesting for me personally.


marv y u say you could be wrong but then say that u haz actual case very soon after?

On March 27 2014 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.



it's not possible to think someone is mafia but also think you might be wrong? what sort of question is this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 27 2014 09:39 GMT
#799
On March 27 2014 18:37 marvellosity wrote:
don't understand what's hard to grasp.


do you think palmar read his PM?

yes or no
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2014 09:39 GMT
#800
On March 27 2014 18:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:37 marvellosity wrote:
don't understand what's hard to grasp.


do you think palmar read his PM?

yes or no

don't care. not relevant to my case. I ignore such things. There's precedent for this but I can't remember the games.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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