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raynpelikoneet
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prplhz
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Palmar
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On March 27 2014 04:55 prplhz wrote: you cleared me in default suspicions because of a random exchange with rayn? yeah I think so | ||
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Palmar
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 27 2014 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: My case on thrawn: Meta part is explained in my filter from Extractor trick. In that game i claimed cop 1h into the game. thrawn said "you could be mafia for fakeclaiming". I asked him why. His reasoning was "because you also fakeclaimed cop in Witchcraft mini". Just because i did something in some other game does not make me mafia. After that thrawn refused to elaborate more on the reasoning while repeateldy being asked about it. He also made some contradicting things like putting gumshoe into L-1 in IML game then basically said "don't hammer" which made no sense. The point is thrawn does not do stuff that makes no sense or does not not explain his shit as town, he does that as mafia. In this game he does stuff that makes no sense as my quotes above and below, as Holyflares case do explain. Here is the TLDR; from thrawns case which elaborate more on the point i presented earlier. Also there is stuff in his case where the TLDR; does not match up with what he says. His case in full so you can compare; + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2014 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote: then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense. the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content... "2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." -i doubt rayn doesn't care about winning the belt - "I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative" what the fuck does this even mean? if robik is scum then of course he is not "some sort of psychic" who is excellent at reading rayn. if robik is scum the robik KNOWS RAYN IS TOWN and doesn't need to try and figure out if rayn is town. like... i can't properly explain the problem I have with this quote because I don't even know what the quote is meant to say. it's just nonsense. -this line: "i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." WTF DOES THIS MEAN? it's the same as the earlier quote. rayn is just talking nonsense here which is the easiest way to figure out his alignment. when I read rayn's game my first thought was "ok, rayn is being sarcastic for most if not all of this" so I ask him to clarify if he was actually reading robik as scum but he says all those statements are real? lol This is the TLDR of my case;
* further elaboration on this: - What a townie does is: "you say X. You are mafia because X does not make sense from town pov." - What thrawn does is: "you say X, i assume your X in fact means Y. I don't care even if you tell me X is not Y but you are mafia because Y does not make sense from town pov". Meta is only a supporting argument because thrawn does not do this stuff (which is already scummy on its own) as town. | ||
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Palmar
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 27 2014 01:45 prplhz wrote: I can absolutely see this better from Holyflare's side. IAmRobik's play is hard to understand (he even admits so himself?) and I don't know why raynpelikoneet can't understand that other people might have this problem with IAmRobik's play. I don't think I got anything out of it though because it was just a lot of text and mainly about what I think was a misunderstanding. Can you explain how you come into this conclusion from reading the exchange between me/HF/thrawn? The bolded part was never an issue and i repeatedly explained to Holyflare what Robik said. My issue was that Holyflare and thrawn were assuming my town read on Robik was based on something i never said. Neither of them did ask me about why i had a townread on Robik, even when i repeatedly told them they don't even know why i have a town read on him based on what they wrote. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 27 2014 05:07 Palmar wrote: Well meta is the part that makes you say with confidence he'd not do stuff like withhold reads or jump on cases as town. Maybe you are just mafia because that is NOT what my case says. | ||
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Palmar
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thrawn2112
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On March 27 2014 03:44 gumshoe wrote: Thrawn, when you get back I'd like you to clarify the lie, was it the same one Rayn and Holy were talking about? What point did you see to not being 100 percent genuine? Who do you think is scum now? origianly I thought the "lie" hf was talking about was that I said I voted rayn because of his game post, when in fact the game post happened after i voted for rayn. so I was confused, but whatever, I thought maybe I just had a blazinghand moment. but since then I've checked the threads and rayn's game post did indeed come before I voted for him, so no I did not lie about that. if the accusation is that I lied in some other way then I have no idea what hf is talking about | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 27 2014 05:13 Palmar wrote: And that is a great point, and unless I'm blind was not part of the case you told me to read. In fact it is there but i agree not well enough explained. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
anyways. reading thread now | ||
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IAmRobik
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Less meta. Less nonsense. More: My town list is this: My mafia list is this: if you want to include a short explanation or a link to posts you've made about it, that's fine. But you guys are legitimately sitting here and recycling the same 5 fucking phrases over and over again. It's really stupid and annoying and it needs to stop. If you don't understand the cases that have been presented so far, then you'll never fucking understand them, cause they've been explained to such great fucking length at this point that a fucking 6 year old without an understanding of 1/2 the words that you use would fucking figure out who thinks who is town and scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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robik - pretty obviously town Holyflare - insane but most likely town marvellosity - likely town, a lot depends on his play later on but nothing seems scummy to me phagga - not sticking his neck out but atm i ahve no problem with him because he is on the right case Palmar - i don't know what he is doing. could be mafia prplhz - i have absolutely no idea what he is doing. likely mafia thrawn2112 - mafia as per my case | ||
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prplhz
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prplhz
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raynpelikoneet
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 27 2014 06:05 prplhz wrote: not even you robik? Yeah...didn't think I deserved a spot...cause you know...I didn't already make my list and I wasn't just typing that as an example of what I would like to see. | ||
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