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Lord Tolkien
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Happen to have time for this game, unlike the last one. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
Hopefully this won't be a ded gaem like the last newbie game. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 17 2014 18:23 Eden1892 wrote: I'll make sure it isn't. I will hold you to thissss~ | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On March 18 2014 03:09 Amiko wrote: Everyone remember to post a ton of short content-free posts, ideally with pictures of sheep herders and sheep dogs, that way our post count will be high enough everyone will knows we are really good at this game. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HvTkmn1.jpg) oopsno u posting irrelevant memes is mafia talk here, keep it related to the gaem + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Y5PgjQr.jpg) | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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Lord Tolkien
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HILLBILLIES NOOOooOooo0 im scurred, hold me + Show Spoiler + alternately i am offendered by the use of such a derogative term for proud rural dwelling white folk with so many negative connotations, pls be more politically correct in your villains. like nazis, or killer robits from da future. SKYNET | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 25 2014 07:41 Balla24 wrote: I believe Lord Tolkien just claimed mafia everybody! Hillbillies aren't the enemy here! ##vote Lord Tolkien fk you im no mafia bish #vote Balla24 ...or at least, I don't know if I am yet STILL | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On March 25 2014 11:56 Cavalinho wrote: Worst mafia player on TL here. lies, that would be me ill fite you if you say otherwise | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On March 26 2014 07:06 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I just went 6-3 as rogue on arena, so that's pretty good. rogue has the best winrate in arena. fking meta sheep. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
http://hearthstats.net/reports/jan/index.html Check and mate. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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#vote sqrtofneg1 because rogues annoy me so | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On March 26 2014 08:06 OnceKing wrote: Aha. Sqrt with the real dirt and LT lying. Lynch all liars! Therefore, ##VOTE Lord Tolkien technically we're both right. My renewed OK scum sense is tingling. #unvote sqrtofneg1 [b]# vote OnceKing | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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#vote OnceKing | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
No reason to let them lurk for free. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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OnceKing sounds town as all fk. I was originally suspicious of his initial "serious" post due to OK's early Day 1 behavior versus early Day 1 LII newbie mafia game and was going to comment on it, but I re-read the old thread and reversed my initial opinion on it (originally thought it was inconsistent, but I reread his case on Amiko and it didn't mention the lurker lynch policy). He's been pushing town towards active discussion since then, asking for reads, and generally steering conversation towards positive goals, so he's establishing himself as town thus far. IAmRobik also feels town to me, though I still question why he feels OK's post is out of place given the context (unless it was scumbait, that was my first thought). The post is still useful pressure and discussion for town, though, and there is no reason for scum to be so forward, so early on in the day, especially with the possible game-states (no godfather game-state). And his posts subsequent read fairly town. Valenius is super town in my eyes, he's cleared for me. Pixelated is neutral or slightly scummy to me. Eden feels even more town for me. He's actively pushing the Cavalinho case and scumhunting aggressively in Day 1, while being the most active contributor to the thread thus far. Clearest town poster in my mind, as he's giving reasoned arguments here. Cavalinho sounds...well, aggressive in all his posts. And he's OMGUSing without presenting a case, period. But given his past game behavior, he also does this when he's town so I'm not sure if my scrumread on him is wrong. Like, this is almost a repeat of LII Day 1 in terms of the Cavalinho lynch progression, however without any substance from him. I'm leaving him as possible scum atm tho I'm confused by it. Maybe the most scummiest read I have, even his past town play aside. Like I'll answer your question when you answer mine. and No, I simply felt like you were dodging the question. should mark him as clear scum, but...might just be his playstyle.I also happen to think his OMGUS vote is him trying to look innocent because he's aware of his meta (not the post beforehand he noted that Robik townread him in a previous game because he OMGUS'd then), but that can go either way. What's telling is that he fails to develop his vote, he just puts it down and insists it'll be me or him today. That's dumb and not what a town player should be doing. This is actually a strong analysis of what I was trying to say. You know what, Cavalinho isn't angry and pissed off enough to have the righteous indignation like his LII newbie game, nor still tries to contribute. Or hell, contribute an actual case for his OMGUSing. sqrtofneg1 has thus far been fairly disconcerting to me. I indulged him with the Hearthstone convo, and I think that's irrelevant to the thread thus far. It was a fair shot at getting something going, if inflating his filter/post. After the first actual serious post to pop up Day 1 (the OK policy lynch), he posted this Fun fact: I've been mafia once, only once, in my fair amount of irl games. and didn't respond to the looming topic at hand, then had a sleep post. Like, its non-contributive lurking at best. There was definitely things available to comment on at the time of his sleep post. Hell, by the time of that post, IAmRobik had already made his wtf post about OnceKing's lynch policy post. It piggybacks off IAmRobik's joke posts, but he at least follows up with substance after there's clearly something to respond to. He still has time to become an active contributor, but seems to be a scum lurker to me. Probably my primary lynch target today because I'm still fking confused by the signals given off by Cavalinho's playstyle and posting patterns.On March 26 2014 13:31 IAmRobik wrote: RE: Sqrt In what world does a mafia come into the game and start talking to himself for 10 posts? Mafia has all the reason in the world to sit back and not do shit and contribute when something is happening and then push some random town who is on the chopping blocks. I don't give a damn if it was 10 posts of filler about how he's doing today and how his HS run was going. The exact same reason you were pushing on OK for: because it's good to make the appearance of contribution. idgaf about the HS posts too much, but the fact he continued the joke posting and made a sleep post before contributing anything useful makes me unhappy. Quick point to RolandJarvis before the plunge, that was a continued joke post. I was jokingly referencing the LII newbie game where I was OMGUSing OK hard for focusing on me Day 1 (mostly for some inconsistencies in his case). Posted that and the correction right as OK was posting the policy lynch post (note the policy lynch post being nestled between that post and the edit), which is the first serious post of the game, which should have been a clue. I'm overall happy with your contribution, however, and I would recommend you read the LII newbie game, since quite a few of the players here were in that game (and should give you a general idea of our playstyles as town (I think all of us present played as town that game), so you can get a feel for us. You voiced the concern about OK only voicing his read on IAmRobik, but his playstyle is (at least, going off his LII and stated gameplay) to only give his strongest reads. So this isn't inconsistent or scummy for me, just how he plays. Just like how Cavalinho still confuses the fk out of me. Or you might have and the mistaken use of punctuation in the post confused you. Overall, I'm quite happy with the way this thread activity has been. no ded gaem Also, my sleep schedule is fked up, so I may be responding at odd times such as this. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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I think between you and Eden, you've put up a very convincing case. And he clearly isn't pissed off enough about the whole lynching affair. There hasn't been a swear word or insult yet! + Show Spoiler +  At this stage my top scum reads are sqrt (I think he was in the LIII game, so I need to read that to gauge him fully), and Cavalinho. To both Cavalinho and sqrt, who do you think is scum? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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- Reads on Valenius and Pixalated. ...how? Valenius asked some good questions to develop OnceKing's policy, but that's all. Certainly a good start but not nearly enough to declare him "super town" or "cleared." Especially in light of the fact that he said Pixalated is neutral-to-scummy... I have Pixalated as neutral-to-town if anything, but to be honest they've done virtually the same thing here (not post much, make solid contributions where they did). There's a lack of explanation for either read, which on its own doesn't say much, but... ZzZ. I knew I should've tried posting that part some other time. Or maybe I should've approached it with more subtlety (see: any subtlety at all). Was trying to scumbait with it when questioning Cavalinho and sqrt. Was trying to see if they would piggyback off of it. Went back and deleted those sections specifically to try. My true reads: Valenius leans town at best. I'm hesitant to call him anything at this stage of the game, when his only post is at best asking for a PAINFULLY obvious clarification on a policy. Or in other words, in line with what everyone else has said. Pixelated is leaning town. He's had more posts and has given reads on sqrt and Valenius, but the main crux of their points have been similar to what OK and others in the thread have said (not much to be said this early into the game, however). He was however the first to defend OK's post (outside of OK), and rightly so. If we're continuing with the Cavalinho lynch, it is...unlikely for them to simultaneously bandwagon on a possible lynch and defend the person in question. - His position on Cavalinho is inconsistently soft wrt the rest of his list. Notice the "almost" above -- the one big exception is the guy that I personally think is obviously scum. He does some lip service to the idea (e.g. "these things should mark him clear scum"), but then handwaves every point he raises for Cavalinho on a shaky meta argument (e.g. "mark him as clear scum, but... might just be his playstyle). He says Cavalinho is "maybe the most scummiest read he has"*, but then declares sqrt his "probable" lynch target today. There's a lot of waffling on Cavalinho that isn't present with the others. (PREVIEW EDIT: Even concedes the case is strong, but still has sqrt as his top suspect. p l s) This is again going off of my experience with Cavalinho in LII, though the more you prod, the more I think you may be right about me softballing Cavalinho. I may be trying to discern too much off meta, and am letting how LII Day 1 went color my view of the game and his (pretty scummy) actions too much. - His rationale for sqrt is weak. Of a handful of inactives so far he's singling out one post of sqrt's (the "I've never drawn mafia" post) as the thing that's so disconcerting to him? Already zeroed in on sqrt being a scum lurker and wants to lynch him over aforesaid "maybe most scummiest read"*? That's just strange to me because nothing that sqrt has done has been alignment-indicative yet. As I EXPLICITLY note, it was posted AFTER the serious posting began, and AFTER IAmRobik's wtf on OK. The timestamp is key: if it were before that, and even OK's post, whatever. idgaf because that was part of the joke phase. That's what I find the most disconcerting of his posting, versus Valenius (whose post at least addressed something serious). - Preview edit point: That last question is such a softball! Ideal to ask your fake scum read and your scum buddy, terrible as town. Why wouldn't he ask about the things Cavalinho and sqrt are doing that makes them suspicious to him? My main issue with sqrt again is the timing of his post and decision to start lurking at that juncture, which makes me far more leery of him over Valenius. Look at the time stamps: 3.5 hours between OK's post and Valenius's question and his sleep post, 4 minutes between Robik's wtf post and his highlighted post, and 11 minutes between the post I highlighted and his sleep post. Certainly there's time to post...something serious? When we had clearly moved past the jokes votes? Putting him among my top scum reads is/was a means to pressure him into posting something of value and see if he posts anything that makes me pursue that line of inquiry. Similarly, the main thing which Cavalinho isn't doing is giving anything of substance in his posts. This is also why I was posting a full reads list, to see if there was any piggybacking going on. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 26 2014 20:33 Pixalated wrote: What. If you are scumbaiting why are you revealing your trap before they even have the chance to fall for it? Since Eden explicitly called out for those reads (like I said, no subtlety) which defeats the whole purpose, and because I think Eden is correct in pointing out that this is not the right day for these kind of tarps. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
And thank you for reminding me ##: unvote OnceKing | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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Actually can you explain this. You say you yourself feel suspicious of OK's first post, yet you yourself ask why Robik thinks its out of place??? I was initially suspicious because in LII he started a case against Amiko for a post which included a lurker lynching policy, and thought it was inconsistent. Upon reread, he had no qualms about the lynching policy and it was myself and Cavalinho who pointed out the policy, his focus was on the fluff. I should have clarified, you are correct. As I said, I have probably been trying to rely too much on meta. | ||
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