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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 30 2014 22:42 GMT
#701
On March 31 2014 07:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
RJ, are you doctor?

STOP ADKING ABOUT THIS SHIT. YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW IF YOU ARE TOWN.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 30 2014 23:37 GMT
#705
On March 31 2014 08:32 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 08:13 OnceKing wrote:
I think sqrt is mafia. He keeps assuming there's a medic in the setup which would keep him consistent with his convenient claim to have been roleblocked.

Reads atm

Towniest of towns tier
OnceKing

Probably town tier
RJ
LT
Valenius

Sketchy tier
Robik

Scum tier
sqrt

Well, what do you want me to expect? I was roleblocked, and that means there's a medic in the setup.

Then stop asking about it. If you're town YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHO'S MEDIC. The only ones who wants to know are SCUM so they can nightkill him.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 30 2014 23:59 GMT
#707
On March 31 2014 08:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 08:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 31 2014 08:32 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On March 31 2014 08:13 OnceKing wrote:
I think sqrt is mafia. He keeps assuming there's a medic in the setup which would keep him consistent with his convenient claim to have been roleblocked.

Reads atm

Towniest of towns tier
OnceKing

Probably town tier
RJ
LT
Valenius

Sketchy tier
Robik

Scum tier
sqrt

Well, what do you want me to expect? I was roleblocked, and that means there's a medic in the setup.

Then stop asking about it. If you're town YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHO'S MEDIC. The only ones who wants to know are SCUM so they can nightkill him.

Well, too late now.

It's a cease and desist. Sure, it's fine to let us know you were roleblocked. But stop asking about the medic jeez.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 01 2014 01:39 GMT
#763
I'm pooped today, and I'll post more later but quick responses for now:

1) I am not doctor. That being said, I'm not sure what to make of sqrt's claims. He could be making this shit up as scum do know the setup to know there won't be a counterclaim. I'm just going to ignore all this talk of blues and roleblocks because I have no fking clue whether to believe it or not.

2) I...don't get what Robik's case against me is? Can you elaborate?

I'm going to reread filters later tonight to figure out who the second mafia is. But initial impressions:

#vote sqrt

I said it before and I'll say it again, being a blue role is no excuse for being scummy as fk.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 01 2014 09:29 GMT
#771
Alright, the only mafia pair that makes any sense without major wifom (for me) is sqrt and Robik, and matches my current scum feelings (they haven't really changed since Day 2, god that was a disaster day). If sqrt is mafia with anyone, it's Robik. With Valenius and OK's voting on sqrt through the day and my own stand on him Day 1, it makes no sense for them to be partners with sqrt (or me).

The only other thing I find believable is Val and OK, or Robik and OK, and that requires quite some WIFOM do to their day 1 moves.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 01 2014 09:29 GMT
#772
*due to
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 01 2014 18:48 GMT
#789
Ok yeah. NOW I definitely think Rovik is scum.

That analysis is holy s-.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 23:50:44
April 02 2014 23:29 GMT
#898
I really do have to apologize since I basically let town down D3. Pretty shitty of me, but I didn't have time to post due to REASONS. And nothing really influenced my reads away from sqrt (I apologize for focusing you since D1 lol) and Robik. Should I have focused Robik first? Perhaps, but I just felt more strongly about sqrt, who I really do feel shouldn't have (edit: been so scummy/scurred).

The only other thing I find believable is Val and OK, or Robik and OK, and that requires quite some WIFOM do to their day 1 moves.

I should have believed in the WIFOM, because the first Day 1 exchange was pretty damn ridic and I don't know why I wrote them off as being mafia together because of it initially. It should've been a telltale sign, and I really should have tried to question the sqrt lynch. If I had the time to sit down and REALLY scrutinized my own reads and other people's analysis, I feel I could've won this for town, but I didn't have/do either.

So ye, I feel like I really dropped the ball here HARD (and hypocrisy since my D2 was entirely devoted to trying to get people to fking post, Pixal pls wtf).

Lessons I've learned from this game:
1) How to approach blue role claims. AKA not lynch them. Huehuehue. Story of this game is "town decides to lynch ALL da blues". And more importantly, learn to discern blue from scum. This is my first mafia game since LII, so that should tell you how little I generally play mafia, and how much I need to improve on in general.

2) That I now apparently have a scummy town D1 meta. Lynch me next game if I appear town D1 gaiz (if I actually have time to play, mafia too exhausting and time-consuming).

3) Lend more weight to nightkills and their implications.

4) l really, REALLY should believe in the WIFOM. Especially something as obvious as that, but I really didn't believe that scum would be so forward Day 1 and be the center of attention.

5) how2scumbait (don't)

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/227Jz8ekq7iaT
For my coach QT.


In general,

D1: I just don't feel Cav put together an adequate defense and his posting pattern made me misread him (sorta again), and I felt a parity cop is less impactful and guaranteed than a cop, and a blue role with no impact should have no bearing on (edit: his lynch at the time. I mean there's not much else I could do because I was the other candidate [and I apparently can't vote myself], and no one was swapping onto sqrt at the time so...In hindsight, it would've been to lynch myself, or oneo f hte two blues. lulz, mafia played well this game).

And my view going into D3 is that there was a coinflip chance the RB claim and medic claim was bogus even without a counterclaim, and thus I chose to rely on my then-present reads, which was fk that, I'm pretty sure he's scummy. As was pointed out in obs QT, I should've noticed his consistent medic pattern, but hindsight 20/20 (and you gaiz got a mod confirm for him), or gone for my other scum read (Robik), even if only to check reactions.


Also,

Howard.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 02 2014 23:31 GMT
#900
Also.

D2: ...I have no words. NO WORDS.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 02 2014 23:35 GMT
#905
On April 03 2014 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 08:25 IAmRobik wrote:
I was VERY VERY close to saying "I am town.................APRIL FOOLS" on April fools day and just let OK try to win it on his own to try to make the game more interesting, but decided against it.

Also, if you read scum qt, I was very very close to claiming medic on n2 because I knew that sqrt would have to claim that day.

If you claimed medic on N2 you would've been dead because you didn't give sqrt's rb claim any attention. Balla told me you were planning on claiming to be rbed both nights

If Robik had claimed N2 (and sqrt counterclaimed) I would probably have swapped my lynch focus right there because that would scream that sqrt/Robik aren't scum team, which leads me to my two other conclusions (and I was lending much more weight to Robik/OK through D3 than OK/Valenius). And since only one of them can possibly be medic, and the way my possible scum pairings were going at that stage...eh.

And make me notice that sqrt has been trying to feebly and awkwardly breadcrumb medic. That too. Mostly that, probably.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 02 2014 23:37 GMT
#909
It's pretty accurate.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 02 2014 23:39 GMT
#910
Additionally if possible end the mafia game turns like 10/11PM. If you did that I would have a much easier time posting towards the end of the day lol. 6PM pretty hard.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 02 2014 23:43 GMT
#912
On April 03 2014 08:40 Valenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 08:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Additionally if possible end the mafia game turns like 10/11PM. If you did that I would have a much easier time posting towards the end of the day lol. 6PM pretty hard.


4/5am pretty hard for us euro's!

true. I'm free past 7PMs almost always as opposed to sometimes available before that and sometimes completely booked.

time frames 2 hard
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 00:01:58
April 03 2014 00:01 GMT
#917
On April 03 2014 08:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
irl mafia is sooooo different

i don't have much experience with either so do tell

My main comment to you would be to follow what I said previously in the thread, or in the TL General Guide to Mafia.


When you have a blue role, you should be posting as if you are a townie. The only difference is that you are more well-informed than other townies.
...
As a general rule, normal townies should not attempt to direct blue roles or try to find out who is blue and who is not. Town power roles work better if the mafia are uncertain of what the blue roles will do.


You were trying to do neither, which just made me think you were scum and alerted mafia to you being blue.

I made the same mistake LII D1 sorta. My soft-vet claim was cray-cray.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 03 2014 05:44 GMT
#930
On April 03 2014 12:01 Cavalinho wrote:
Dude. You voted me because I claimed and because it would take too long to prove. Shut up.

Yes. That was stupid.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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