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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 31 2014 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not elaborating further. kitaman is mafia. I have explained why i did what i did he does not refer to my reasoning but the actions instead. I have already explained them. I promise you all he is mafia.
Just like you promised to do your research last night? LOL
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Vote Count
Alakaslam (4) - Toadesstern, kushm4sta, Tehpoofter, thrawn2112, kitaman27, raynpelikoneet, Djodref, Amiko, Hopeless1der, JarJarDrinks
raynpelikoneet (3) - kitaman27, thrawn2112, Alakaslam, Toadesstern, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, Tehpoofter
Hopeless1der (1) - Toadesstern, raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, thrawn2112
JarJarDrinks (1) - Djodref
kitaman27 (1) - raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
thrawn2112 (0) - kitaman27
Toadesstern (0) - raynpelikoneet
Not Voting (4) - austinmcc, thrawn2112, Vivax, gumshoe
Currently Alakaslam is set to be lynched!
Day ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
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kita, rayn wants to 1v1 you. do you accept?
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On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"
Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. So um... WTF are you doing rayn?
I said if there is not sure mafia we should lynch Slam.
Now there is sure mafia. I give you guarantee.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 31 2014 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +If rayn thought that I was looking decently townie otherwise, then maybe I'd consider number one. The biggest issue that I have right now is that as far as I can tell, I am rayn's number one scum suspect. He is pushing slam for being anti-town and shows that he may have reconsidered his read on tehpoofer, yet not a word about myself. Anyone who has any brain left in this game this part by kitaman's post should be considered a scumclaim. Read it please. "I wouldn't lynch this guy but he thinks i am mafia"
Read it again. I'm rayn's one and only scum suspect currently yet he made no attempt to go after me. It isn't about you being suspicious of ME, it's about you ignoring your only read. You say that you have been doing the most scum hunting hands down, but point to a single spot in your filter where you attempt to figure out my alignment. Seven pages of filter talking about slam doesn't mean you have done anything.
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On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"
Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. So um... WTF are you doing rayn? FWIW I don't like kita either. I don't understand what he's saying about how he was trying to reproduce his meta from a previous game. It really makes very little sense as town.
BUT
Slam has to be the lynch today. I'm fine w/ you making the case rayn but your vote shouldn't leave slam.
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On March 31 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"
Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. So um... WTF are you doing rayn? I said if there is not sure mafia we should lynch Slam. Now there is sure mafia. I give you guarantee.
He's not guaranteed mafia.
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On March 31 2014 23:48 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:If rayn thought that I was looking decently townie otherwise, then maybe I'd consider number one. The biggest issue that I have right now is that as far as I can tell, I am rayn's number one scum suspect. He is pushing slam for being anti-town and shows that he may have reconsidered his read on tehpoofer, yet not a word about myself. Anyone who has any brain left in this game this part by kitaman's post should be considered a scumclaim. Read it please. "I wouldn't lynch this guy but he thinks i am mafia" Read it again. I'm rayn's one and only scum suspect currently yet he made no attempt to go after me. It isn't about you being suspicious of ME, it's about you ignoring your only read. You say that you have been doing the most scum hunting hands down, but point to a single spot in your filter where you attempt to figure out my alignment. Seven pages of filter talking about slam doesn't mean you have done anything.
This is a total misrepresentation of my filter.
The scumread on you was purely PoE because mostly everyone else looked more or less town. Then you claimed scum.
you are not this stupid, if you paid any attantion what i have said on other people you would know exactly where my scumread on you was based on.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 31 2014 23:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
kita, rayn wants to 1v1 you. do you accept?
Yep, assuming I don't come to the conclusion that you're not pushing a town vs town.
rayn is guaranteeing and promising that I am mafia after a 10 sec response to my post.
I am presenting a case why he is likely mafia after objectively attempting to lead him down a path to show he is town, reading through his past games for things like mass claim policy and mentioning my reservations showing that I am not 100%, and reading through other players filters to make sure he is the best lynch before deciding.
Who do you guys trust more?
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On March 31 2014 23:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"
Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. So um... WTF are you doing rayn? I said if there is not sure mafia we should lynch Slam. Now there is sure mafia. I give you guarantee. He's not guaranteed mafia.
Yes he is, i guarantee you. If you don't think he is mafia then lynch me you can lynch kita on D2.
Or then you can ignore everything on D2 and lose the game and i call you all bad post game because you refused to lynch the survivor claim and obv-scum when Slam joints with mafia and you lose the game because of it (this sentence is for all the players, not just for you).
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I don't like rayn OMGUS reaction to kita's case. It seems disproportionate, kita didn't even vote him yet and his point about the lack of follow-up is correct. But I'm not sold on rayn being mafia. I don't understand why he would react like that though. I don't believe kita is mafia and it's difficult for me to imagine anyone being 100% sure that he would be mafia. Slam is still a better lynch.
My vote on JarJar was a pressure vote by the way. I'm confused now...
##unvote
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Okay lynch me.
##unvote
vote raynpelikoneet
then you can lynch scum. also you will facepalm when you see my role.
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On March 31 2014 23:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
kita, rayn wants to 1v1 you. do you accept? Yep, assuming I don't come to the conclusion that you're not pushing a town vs town. rayn is guaranteeing and promising that I am mafia after a 10 sec response to my post. I am presenting a case why he is likely mafia after objectively attempting to lead him down a path to show he is town, reading through his past games for things like mass claim policy and mentioning my reservations showing that I am not 100%, and reading through other players filters to make sure he is the best lynch before deciding. Who do you guys trust more?
In my currently preferred scenario, we lynch rayn. If he flips town, hope a vig can get you or slam and probably end up lynching the other one. If he flips scum,
##Unvote: Alakaslam
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 31 2014 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay lynch me.
##unvote
vote raynpelikoneet
then you can lynch scum. also you will facepalm when you see my role.
If you're going to suggest that you have an incredibly powerful town role to avoid the lynch, then you better attempt to show what you can do for town. If you get lynched, you're dead. If you survive, mafia knows you have a strong blue role. So will you be role claiming?
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On March 31 2014 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 31 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"
Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. So um... WTF are you doing rayn? I said if there is not sure mafia we should lynch Slam. Now there is sure mafia. I give you guarantee. He's not guaranteed mafia. Yes he is, i guarantee you. If you don't think he is mafia then lynch me you can lynch kita on D2. Or then you can ignore everything on D2 and lose the game and i call you all bad post game because you refused to lynch the survivor claim and obv-scum when Slam joints with mafia and you lose the game because of it (this sentence is for all the players, not just for you).
That's not how you convince people to lynch somebody with you. Could you make me a bullet list why your strongest arguments for a scum kita ? I need to be 100% convinced.
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well that escalated quickly...
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It's difficult for me to post in the mornings so I apologize for the brevity of this post. But, this is what I was interested in at the end of the day yesterday and it involves raynpelikoneet / kitaman27 who seem to be potential wagons for this afternoon.
raynpelikoneet voted on Hopeless1ider earlier in the game. In response to a question from thrawn, raynpelikoneet seems to suggest kitaman27's case on hopeless1ider sounds fine.
I think there are only two posts from kitaman27 that even address hopeless. One barely mentions him (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445571-doctor-who-mafia-2?page=18#359) and I do not think it is a case. The other is just a series of questions (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445571-doctor-who-mafia-2?page=11#215).
I'd like to ask rayn questions and go back and forth but I am out for a few hours, so in summary I currently think rayn justified his vote on hopeless1ider based on a non-existent case by kitaman27. (he also justified it based on foolishness' read but I can't use that for anything)
I will come back to thread in about 3 hours and read the more recent developments, I haven't given the recent posts fair attention yet and can't until then.
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On April 01 2014 00:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
p.s. rayn revoted kita
By the way, you lynch rayn over Slam ? Are you really happy with this ?
You look quite an opportunist here !
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 31 2014 23:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"
Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. So um... WTF are you doing rayn? FWIW I don't like kita either. I don't understand what he's saying about how he was trying to reproduce his meta from a previous game. It really makes very little sense as town.
What doesn't make sense to you? Is there anything that I can explain differently?
Essentially, I went into the game attempting to behave exactly the same as my most recent town game. I'm not saying this makes me town, I'm saying that the connection is there for anyone trying to look. The top quote is shadow mini and the bottom quote is this game.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2014 09:31 kitaman27 wrote:
##Vote Sandroba On March 30 2014 06:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Hello!
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2014 10:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Wanna vote sandroba with me? He may or may not be scummy. On March 30 2014 06:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Not providing an explanation for my vote, though someone should totally join me.
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process"? On March 30 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
do you think that my vote had malicious intentions?
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2014 23:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, gotta make the rounds.
##Unvote
##Foolishness On March 30 2014 07:40 kitaman27 wrote:
##Unovte
##Vote thrawn2112
rayn finds my random vote behavior weird, but needs to see what I do as each alignment and mentions that he would look into it. I ask him multiple times to look into it. As town, I would suspect that he would look at my most recent game, notice my random vote behavior and conclude that it either matches my town meta or that I'm mafia trying to force my town meta or to look an not find a connection. As mafia, I would expect him to not bother looking and call me mafia anyways.
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