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On March 31 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 06:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
@thrawn yeah I saw after I already sent the previous post.
And wait his little fit there about not caring and saying "you guys deal with rayn" makes you think hes town? I'm not compelled at all. How can he be so discouraged so early in the game we have no flips no known information for all he knows were onto all the scum and going to stomp if hes town. I hate the acting like a child and saying "i give" cause someone calls you mafia making someone town defense. I never said I give up, but I'm not going to "defend" myself from anything when rayn is out for slam's blood and will likely get his way.
See thats a bad attitude Imo Rayn is only one person and he might be scum this game. Hes not the town hero he was in titanic this is a new game boys and you shouldn't just sheep rayn. The only way rayn gets what he wants is if you act like its a forgone conclusion.
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so I might be posting this in the wrong thread but the last vote count shows rayn with 3 votes from toad/kush/slam and my vote not being listed anywhere despite voting for rayn prior to the vote count... forgive the noobness here but do I need to revote? or just a clerical error most likely?
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On March 31 2014 06:28 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 06:27 Tehpoofter wrote:On March 31 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 31 2014 06:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
@thrawn yeah I saw after I already sent the previous post.
And wait his little fit there about not caring and saying "you guys deal with rayn" makes you think hes town? I'm not compelled at all. How can he be so discouraged so early in the game we have no flips no known information for all he knows were onto all the scum and going to stomp if hes town. I hate the acting like a child and saying "i give" cause someone calls you mafia making someone town defense. I never said I give up, but I'm not going to "defend" myself from anything when rayn is out for slam's blood and will likely get his way. See thats a bad attitude Imo Rayn is only one person and he might be scum this game. Hes not the town hero he was in titanic this is a new game boys and you shouldn't just sheep rayn. The only way rayn gets what he wants is if you act like its a forgone conclusion. Yeah but maybe one day rayn will learn to tone it down a notch instead of pulling stuff like telling everyone they're bad/shit/stupid for simply disagreeing with him. In the meantime, he insists we can totally scumhunt while we circlejerk around slam's impeding doom.
Do you think rayn is doing a good job of scum hunting?
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On March 31 2014 06:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
so i'm starting to believe in kita's theory about # of scum on D1 because there really aren't that many scummy people around
eh. i hope austin posts soon
I think kita's theory is probably pretty damn accurate if alignment conversions are possible mafia having one would lead to them starting with that many I believe. So thrawn you reading everyone as town? I think you said you believed slam's claim do you think hes likely to be the only 3rd party and if not anyone giving you just an anti-town maybe not mafia vybe?
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On March 31 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 06:32 Tehpoofter wrote:On March 31 2014 06:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 31 2014 06:27 Tehpoofter wrote:On March 31 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 31 2014 06:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
@thrawn yeah I saw after I already sent the previous post.
And wait his little fit there about not caring and saying "you guys deal with rayn" makes you think hes town? I'm not compelled at all. How can he be so discouraged so early in the game we have no flips no known information for all he knows were onto all the scum and going to stomp if hes town. I hate the acting like a child and saying "i give" cause someone calls you mafia making someone town defense. I never said I give up, but I'm not going to "defend" myself from anything when rayn is out for slam's blood and will likely get his way. See thats a bad attitude Imo Rayn is only one person and he might be scum this game. Hes not the town hero he was in titanic this is a new game boys and you shouldn't just sheep rayn. The only way rayn gets what he wants is if you act like its a forgone conclusion. Yeah but maybe one day rayn will learn to tone it down a notch instead of pulling stuff like telling everyone they're bad/shit/stupid for simply disagreeing with him. In the meantime, he insists we can totally scumhunt while we circlejerk around slam's impeding doom. Do you think rayn is doing a good job of scum hunting? not particularly.
Glad you agree with me! We should vote him off cause hes not doing a good job of hunting for scum like I feel he does as town and might be pushing an easy lynch in slam irrelevant of his role and not bothering to scum hunt.
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On March 31 2014 06:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
I'm not reading everyone as town. i'm reading a lot of people as town and I have a few null reads.
about the slam stuff, i literaly don't want to talk about it any more. but I will answer this question. i do not think that his wincon interferes with my win con. if he is survivor then he knows that he needs to obey town or else possible town kp will remove him. so i don't think that lynching him is the best way to deal with him.
Exactly!!! Do you not think its scummy that rayn doesn't follow this chain of logic? We just hold the lynch over slam's head and force him to vote town's will its like having a confirm town that scum doesn't really want to kill because they could use him if need be and killing him potentially reduces their numbers.
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@Amiko in regards to DJO looking at his filter he is buddying everyone but in a game like this there is probably today a lot of town and a couple scum maybe some third parties. So not really sure what to feel like he also probed Vivax which I was about to do. So I like the same mindset there cause Vivax didn't post at all as mafia the last game I played with both of them.
Overall leaning more townie than scum but I want to see more scum hunting and less town buddying.
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Reading through lurkers filters cause nothing else is going on Austin + Jar Jar have just "/in", Gum just trolls about being dr and nothing more.
Vivax came in and through some light content around the weirdest part is that he randomly adds in:
On March 31 2014 03:56 Vivax wrote:
What if there's a traitor in the game and he can claim survivor cause town doesn't know that it's possible?
He randomly piped up about this during me and rayn talking about slam's claim. He really offers very little but has to have been reading a bit to realize there was a claim and questioning the validity of it. I'd like to know what he thinks of it and if he thinks this theory holds water? It almost sounds like he is coming in to nudge us into voting for Slam.
Care to explain vivax?
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Gonna snag dinner since the thread is dead..... Super glad rayn wants to instant lynch the survivor claim and do nothing else. Look at all the conversation it generates while scum just says thanks and hangs back.
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On March 31 2014 12:20 austinmcc wrote:Hey slam, I have the ability to make up an item every day and pretend to give it to someone. I will pretend to give you a made-up item if you will assist me. Today I have made up the Cerulean Rectangular Prism![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/TARDIS2.jpg/220px-TARDIS2.jpg) I will pretend to give you the Cerulean Rectangular Prism in exchange for you completing the following mission. All relevant information for your mission is contained in the following points: (1) I have read the thread. (2) I have summoned forth a mighty frowny face at the focus on slam's claim, mass claiming, and whatever rayn is doing or not doing. (3) Lo, I am not particularly townie on the filter of one tefpoofter. I believe it shows a lot of tiny questions that appear to have little followup or little reason to really be asked, they appear to be questions asked just so that questions could be asked. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to sally forth into The Hinterlands and report your findings to me.
Which posts are you referring to here where I ask questions and don't follow up after an answer?
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On March 31 2014 13:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:Hey, I just caught up to everything but sorry my weekend has been busy and I don't have much time tonight. Will be able to participate all day tomorrow when I get to work but gonna give some initial reads: Rayn - I don't think scum would have the balls to push hard for a massclaim. I also agree w/ alot of what he's saying. In particular the stuff about alaska. top town read atm alaskaslam - Yeah I don't see how we don't lynch him. I'm always about the low risk play. Basically he's either mafia or not town. Lynching him is pretty automatic IMO tehpoof - it's been kinda mentioned, but this really sounds like a scumslip to me Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 03:05 Tehpoofter wrote:On March 31 2014 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kush lynching a third faction has nothing to do with scumhunting. I agree we should lynch the guy wanting to kill not mafia. like my first thought after reading alaskas claim was "What if he's lying?" poofter doesn't even seem to consider it. Which is even stranger since he had a pretty strong scumread on alaska to begin with: Show nested quote +On March 30 2014 12:20 Tehpoofter wrote:
So Things I know about Alakaslam:
1) He says he loves being mafia errr cyberman.
2) Based on the huge sample size of 1 game I've played with Slam he posted never as town.
He seems happy and has posted more in 14 pages than he did in 200+ pages last game as town.
Clear mafia here!!! WE GOT EM BOYS!!!
## Vote: Alakaslam
Like, how does he go from that to "Oh ur 3rd party? ok lets lynch rayn for pushing you!" ??? More tomorrow.
I stated my reasons for thinking it was scummy of rayn to want to auto lynch the survivor when looking for scum should be priority day 1 and survivor isn't technically scum. You took that quote out of context but DJO describes nicely what was going on as he was reading the thread. I had a scum read on slam in the sense that I voted for him at the start of the day idk seems like a weird read.
Jar Jar lets assume for a second you're wrong on me who else would be scum?
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On March 31 2014 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Even if every scum have a role what scum claims blue in their first post? 
It could be a ploy to make blues feel more comfortable about claiming or something because they figure everyone else has a role. <<the Devil's advocate position however I don't really see that being a viable option. Maybe I like DJO cause he defended me but I have him as town.
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On March 31 2014 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:austin looks really good. I am surprised i get what he is saying. tehpoofer actually is probably scum. He tells me to do scumhunting. Surprise surprise i think i have done the most scumhunting in this game hands down. He has talked about nothing than me, he bases his read on me on one game (rofl), noone agrees with him on his read, yet his meta read must be correct. ^^ I could write a bigger case but i don't wanna do that right now. Basically he keeps flip-flopping over same things over and over again, when i tell him why they are wrong he forgets them for a while and then they suddenly just reappear. He is saying maybe two things and nothing else in this game. I agree with whoever said (austin?) that Hopeless is town. While i think his play is completely useless and idiotic he is town. JJD also looks okayish. so kita and tehpoofer are most likely scum. maybe gumshoe.
I would love to hear your bigger case rayn. This is what I mean that is different from last game... your heart is either not as into this game or you're a different alignment than last time. The rayn from the game I played was more than happy to bring up a whole case on someone even if it was a massive wall of texts and then scream at the town for not realizing they're scum. This isn't what you're doing this game... its different and its the only meta I know for you. The Way I play mafia is assessing how people play different alignments and roles and compare them between games along with the information in the thread to attempt to make a read. Thus far you are different than last game where you were basically the whole town. IF I have a read you do X as town and then you do Y instead should I draw a different conclusion?
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On March 31 2014 16:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
idk. i think tehpoofter is more involved in the thread than a lot of people. he's definitely more engaged than he was in that last game. i'm not getting the same 'newbie town' vibe that I instantly got from him last game but traces of it are still there. like i think he's town, but he might just be more confident now and that's interfering with my noob reading abilities.
and you think he is scum because his read of you is based on poor meta reasoning? lol would you expect him to have a good understanding of meta?
You're not allowed to play in games where I don't roll town thrawn this is the 2nd game you've known my alignment very very quickly before anyone else. (This is assuming my read on you is right that you're actually town this game)
@Thrawn am I just misreading DJO? I feel like his play this game is similar to his last game where he was ML, but maybe i'm biased cause he defended me. What would you say is something scummy DJO has done that plops him into the suspect list (aside from his case in the form of a defense of a townie)?
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@DJO I'm interested in what you read on Austin/Hopeless is?
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@Jar Jar and Austin since you too didn't post much at the start of the day and ended up thinking I was scummy. IF you guys think I'm actually scum do you think its better for town to vote for me today or for Slam and his claimed survivor role? Essentially is it worth it going after a scummy read vs a 3rd party claim by Slam?
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EBWOP: two*
Also probably going to head out for bed I'll be back a couple hours before the deadline.
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@ austin. I'll address your issues with me later but its almost at deadline and I think it wastes both of our time cause from your posts and your stance on slam I read you as more townie. To satiate your bloodthirst for a moment though my mafia background comes from video mafia and meta reads are my strong suit so I try to use that. (this is not everything or even a drop in the bucket but I don't want to end this day with you being convinced I'm town cause thats pointless lest get the lynch right.
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##Unvote
##Vote: gumshoe
I liked rayn's reaction too little time to comment on before the lynch but useless > what seems like a different style of rayn town.
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On April 01 2014 06:00 kitaman27 wrote:
You guys are aware that gumshoe hasn't voted right?
Slam is useless but I don't think hes scum. Gumshoe did nothing its a coast bump that.
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