EPTOn March 31 2014 03:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Well I voted Rayn so for posterity
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
Well I voted Rayn so for posterity
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
Care to explain why you voted rayn? you know for posterity
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Tehpoofter
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Care to explain why you voted rayn? you know for posterity | ||
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Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 31 2014 03:51 Tehpoofter wrote: @rayn I think lynching mafia on day 1 is far superior to lynching a third party survivor (this is assuming his claim is real) If we had 1-2 mafia today that can convert or something we could have 2-3 tomorrow imagine if we his like a mafia converting role or a 3rd party anti town converting role tonight instead of some survivor that can still be town sided. How is that not better? The point is unless you are certain you can lynch mafia every day you HAVE to lynch Slam one day. Just because the closer to LYLO it gets the more mafia he becomes even if he is survivor. Also the longer the game goes the LESS POSSIBILITIES we have to actually lynch him, just because at some point there will be a point where you can't just lynch the survivor claim unless you think they are mafia because if you do you lose! With this playerbase i am not sure i or the town in general, especially after night kills, can lynch mafia every day, that's my honest opinion Now if you have to lynch the survivor claim, the best play is to lynch the survivor claim on D1. Just because you have way better chances to lynch mafia on D2 than D1, based purely on the fact that you have 120 hours instead of 48 to find the first mafia. Basic logic. You have also night actions on N1 that might reveal something. You have also a GUARANTEED NON-TOWN D1 lynch. The survivor claim might even be mafia. This has nothing to do with scumhunting. You just default your votes on Slam and play normally. Instead of having a 48h day we have a 120h day. People who stop playing because "lynch is already decided" are likely mafia because just because a lynch is "decided" does not mean you should stop playing until you see the results. Sucks for Slam if he is survivor but he fucked up. The best play is to put votes on him, ignore him and focus on other stuff. we have a 120h D1. If someone claims scum or something we can always switch our votes.Easy, and definitely the best play. Now this is the last time i explain this. Hope people understand. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On March 31 2014 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is one person who can meta me and they are not in this game so your question is useless poofer. What if he is trying to ask me this question to get me talking, see where I am in my thought process, and try to infer my alignment from there ? Would you be a little happier if I'm telling you I'm down with you to lynch Slam ? Because I feel like you could use a little love right now  And here are my reasons to lynch Slam.
## vote Slam I understand that it would be more difficult to scumhunt if we decide to lynch Slam now, but I really think the discussion is not going to end here and I'm open to change my vote to pressure anyone else if needed. My answer to Poofer incoming. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Alakaslam
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On March 31 2014 01:03 Amiko wrote: [/i]If someone dies in the game, does the flip reveal their current role or any role history / alignment change the player had? If you won't answer that's ok. Massclaim My answer is no - I don't see many (any?) advantages for this in a closed setup. If it was a serious suggestion then I'm wiling to talk about it, though, and it looks like we are both on. [u]Other Questions @anyone what is LHF? @kitaman27 I don’t see your original vote on thrawn2112 as scummy, but can you explain why you initially withheld your reasons for voting for thrawn (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21085439)? LHF is low hanging fruit, an easy mislynch. | ||
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Alakaslam
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On March 31 2014 03:36 Tehpoofter wrote: @Djo once you're done catching up how do you feel about rayn's this game in comparison to last game we all played (titanic) or previous games? This question also is good for Vivax/hopeless/thrawn but I don't think tehy're around atm. @poff In comparison to Titanic's game, rayn seems to be in a different emotional state... he looks definitively butt hurt now. But I think it's similar to what happened when Coag posted his seal last game, i.e. Coag or Toad getting "confirmed" town in rayn's view but abusing the rules of the game. The good thing is that he keeps on posting in the thread for the moment (I think he is still concerned with the game, regardless what he is claiming) and I hope he can lighten up his mood so we have a better thread atmosphere. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17323 Posts
On March 31 2014 01:06 kitaman27 wrote: That was in response to a question about the rayn vote, not thrawn. Saying a random vote is random doesn't accomplish much, unless you're ready to move on. Slam, could you post your role name, abilities, and win condition? If you don't do so, then you're working against town. rayn, have you finished your research yet? Is this even legal? And that is a fallacy anyway but if I can I may as well. You will lynch me anyway. You are all determined. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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Alakaslam
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On March 31 2014 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: not gonna do it. 90% i will find nothing useful and i don't care about this game enough to test if the 10% gives me something. More proof that Rayn does not want to lynch scum but you are all gonna lynch me anyway watch this | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
raynpelikoneet (3) - Alakaslam (3) - kitaman27 (0) - thrawn2112 (0) - Hopeless1der (0) - Toadesstern (0) - Not Voting (8) - austinmcc, Hopeless1der, thrawn2112, JarJarDrinks, Vivax, Amiko, gumshoe, Alakaslam Currently raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched! Day ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Xatalos
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On March 31 2014 04:10 Alakaslam wrote: Is this even legal? And that is a fallacy anyway but if I can I may as well. You will lynch me anyway. You are all determined. From the OP: Claiming: Claiming your role is allowed, but you cannot claim when you got role pm, who sent it to you, etc. Fake roleclaims are provided before the game and on request to all players no matter your alignment. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On March 31 2014 04:11 Tehpoofter wrote: @rayn if mafia knows there is no way they're being lynched today then what incentive do they have to pressure or defend? Like the threat of getting lynched is what mafia most has to worry about. Giving them a free ride for a day lets them sit back and not doing anything. We fundamentally disagree but the fact you're so passionate about it makes me lesson my scum read a bit on you. If I unvote you can we start trying to find who might be mafia nad then argue about what day to lynch them? This is one thing you can determine people's alignments from. Who is willing to do shit when they are not under pressure and who is not. It's like, do people scumhunt during the night? Of course they do. Because not being able to lynch someone is not a reason to stop. If mafia is going to use that as an excuse i can see through that. It's not all about pressure and defending, in fact there are much better ways to find mafia than pressure, people are more likely to slip when they are not under pressure. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On March 31 2014 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care anyone thinks. I'll put myself on the copping block for saying if we massclaim it helps the town. Nobody is talking about 100% winning the game. It's about benefiting the town vs benefiting the scum. Massclaim always benefits town in high roled games, it doesn't matter what the roles are. I have played enough BYOR's and other shit to know it. But it's probably impossible to argue about it because noone will believe me anyways even if i can show 10 examples. So i don't care. Toadesstern - town, not going to argue about this in this game any more austinmcc - not posted kitaman27 - started saying dumb stuff again Hopeless1der - probably scum thrawn2112 - seems town JarJarDrinks - not posted kushm4sta - town Vivax - horrible opening Djodref - not posted Amiko - seems town. could focus onto something else than setup speculation. you need to either trust me or not, it's my ass on the line anyways so there is no need to "check" anything gumshoe - trolled, i have no idea what he is doing Tehpoofter - seemed town, i liked his proactiveness Alakaslam - scum or anti-town, must lynch asap. here are my reads. people who need to talk are not here. More proof Rayn does not want to lynch scum "Why you vote Rayn Alakaslam, for poh- stare- it- ee! " Makes me see you people as childish. I haven't been so disgruntled with a mafia game in a long time. I feel really mean right now but sorry, it is also transparent and at least you do know what I think. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Hopeless1der
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Alakaslam
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On March 31 2014 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: tehpoofer are you okay for getting lynched if i flip town? best argument; you refused to lynch a dude who is 100% not town and lynched town instead. I wouldn't be ok with this happening. If he came out scummy for it sure, but town can be wrong You know this. You so know better than so much of what you are doing | ||
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Alakaslam
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On March 31 2014 04:19 Hopeless1der wrote: Slam will you flip town? Nope, never will. And can't flip scum either. 3p solid. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17323 Posts
On March 31 2014 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: And yes i am trying to find mafia lla the time. No, you just want me out | ||
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