On March 30 2014 12:45 kushm4sta wrote:
What kita did is referred to as RVS. Basically randomly voting someone for a bullshit reason at the beginning of the game to spur discussion. It is a tactic of dubious merits in my opinion, but it is very popular on other sites, especially mafiascum.

I am also concerned about thawn's response to kita.
Thrawn have you never experienced RVS before?
It seems fake that you would press kita for his reasoning for a vote that is obviously based on nothing.

What do you think about hopeless's response kush?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 04:06 GMT

#296

Are you claiming survivor?

I can tolerate the craziness, but lying if you're not crosses the line.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 04:08 GMT

#303

On March 30 2014 13:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Ya I'm planar dragon of interplanetary mega bamcis NK POWAH, I will NK the whole scumteam in one fell swoop

Make sure u lynch me or NK watch this

Seriously, are you a survivor?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 04:40 GMT

#320

Could you give us a full role claim?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 06:54 GMT

#359

On March 30 2014 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case it's unclear. It's like normally people give you a puzzle to solve and slowly give you pieces to the puzzle along the way. Then they assume townies complete the puzzle and mafia tries to force the pieces in wrong order. kitaman gives you a puzzle, then he gives you pieces to 10 different puzzles and i don't even know if he wants you to try to solve the original puzzle.

lol you amuse me.

But you have it backwards. I'm simply trying to gather the pieces for myself. The puzzle is mine to solve.

As for your "web of disruption" post, it has a catchy name, but I'll respond once you come to an actual conclusion.

thrawn is off my naughty list for the moment.

People of interest:

Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced.

Amiko asking me or hope for the clarification doesn't seem scummy to me. We were probably just around. His lack of opinion and direction does appear scummy however.

Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless

slam...generally I try to ignore him and the last time I did so I believe he was mafia. Day one survivor claims are usually someone I would lynch, even if I thought they might be a survivor. My biggest worry is that he might be a trolly town who is willing to get lynched and doesn't care, but he wasn't willing to role claim when asked and shows signs of over frustration that doesn't appear genuine. I'll probably leave my vote on him, though we need to avoid the scenario where nobody is under pressure because the lynch is already decided.

kush is someone who usually gets on my nerves early and hasn't done so yet, which is a concern. I seem to remember him playing mafia and acting completely reasonable, but I'll have to look back to familiarize myself with some of his more recent games. In my opinion, thrawn and hope both overreacted to the random vote, yet kush doesn't draw the same conclusion by only expressing suspicion of thrawn. If slam is a survivor, then kush being the first one to defend him may make sense as mafia if he knows his alignment.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 06:58 GMT

#360

Flamewheel, Ver, and Incognito also told me that hope is scummy.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 06:59 GMT

#362

On March 30 2014 15:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +

I kinda understand this but the problem is the pieces are most likely wrong in any case because you are not on the same page with other people.

Do you see any reason why town!Amiko asks you or Hopeless to clarify my thought process instead of asking me (i was btw in thread aswell)?

Not really, but if you're going to say that is alignment indicative then I think you're overreacting.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 07:04 GMT

#366

On March 30 2014 15:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Toadesstern
So basically you can't be town if you are not modkilled.

Demanding a modkill in the thread is terrible practice. PM mods if you have a problem.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 07:05 GMT

#368

Yes. Toad is town.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 07:16 GMT

#378

On March 30 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +

Probably town if Hopeless is mafia. I trust Foolishness the most atm.

lol terrible reasoning.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 07:23 GMT

#388

On March 30 2014 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i can't tell if he is town or mafia.

Well I'm going to bed now. When I wake up, can you provide a follow up to the "web of disruption" post?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 16:06 GMT

#449

On March 31 2014 01:03 Amiko wrote:
@kitaman27 I don’t see your original vote on thrawn2112 as scummy, but can you explain why you initially withheld your reasons for voting for thrawn (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21085439)?

That was in response to a question about the rayn vote, not thrawn. Saying a random vote is random doesn't accomplish much, unless you're ready to move on.

Slam, could you post your role name, abilities, and win condition? If you don't do so, then you're working against town.

rayn, have you finished your research yet?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 16:15 GMT

#453

On March 30 2014 14:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is how townies do the "make other people think and see if you can catch lazy people because they are more likely to be mafia and draw retarded conclusions"

So lets get this straight, you decided to spend your time drawing a couple fancy pictures, suggesting that I'm creating a "web of disruption", write a huge post without a conclusion, promise to come to follow up three times and fail to do so, and now use the "I don't care excuse"?

Like what's the point of that post to begin with?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 18:10 GMT

#469

On March 31 2014 01:31 Amiko wrote:
there’s over a day left, slam is already getting pressured, and I’d rather lynch scum than 3rd party survivor.

On March 31 2014 03:02 Tehpoofter wrote:
Survivor might not be town but its not mafia finding mafia > lynching the survivor.

So you guys are confident that slam is not mafia because he says he is not?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 18:11 GMT

#470

Oh ninja'd by rayn.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 18:26 GMT

#481

On March 31 2014 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kush's argument is so retarded i am not sure if i want to even try any more jsut because i have to deal that sort of logic. What is even more awful is that someone agrees with him..

I actually did go back and found any references to survivor games and kush held a similar stance as town...don't lynch, go after those who do, etc.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 18:28 GMT

#485

For someone who doesn't care about the game, you sure do like to waste time defending yourself.

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 18:39 GMT

#495

On March 31 2014 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For someone who is supposed to be good at this game you say a lot of stupid stuff kita.

Hey, I'm not the guy pushing a mass claim in a recruiter setup.

On a side note, it's quite possible that mafia numbers are going to be nerfed on day one if there is a alignment changing mechanic. We could very well be dealing with 1-2 at the start.

My policy on slam is that if he refuses to role claim, he doesn't care about winning with town and should be lynched. The "I hate my role, I'm just going to quit" attitude is worthless.

Vivax, you know you have a reputation for not posting as mafia, so what gives?

Do you have a mafia read yet hope?

kitaman27

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March 30 2014 20:22 GMT

#549

On March 31 2014 04:41 Alakaslam wrote:
I am disgruntled. I feel I have been targeted by scum since before I did anything, so I am pissed and playing for vengeance, and to obey the rules playing to my wincon even when it is a lost cause.

Hosts have confirmed that you are allowed to reveal your role name, role, and win condition. Please do so in your next post.

I've asked 4-5 times now. I don't like to beg.