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On April 04 2014 05:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Amiko is pretty goddamn town. Every other post (with no provocation) he is constantly updating or explaining or expanding on stuff and has commented on almost every main point in the game afaik. Excellent play and something to be wary of conversions.
JJD very likely town based on role speculation.
Kush very likely town based on reaction to gumshoe. No hesitation, immediate shot. I feel scum would have tried to go to their QT all "wtf he claimed my role do I kill him?" before pulling the trigger.
Thrawn good activity
Vivax I dunno
Toad is a useless pile of garbage this game.
Kita seems like he's working towards a town-oriented goal.
BIRDGOD goes #squak, very town.
no idea about djo or poof.
On April 04 2014 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
I think my roleclaim confirms JJD town. As scum he would be able to get me or vivax lynched pretty easily by simply saying "nope wrong answer".
Thoughts?
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So how does hopeless that previously thought I was scummy and then goes to null say that JJD is town for not wanting to lynch me?
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Or explain me this after seeing the first post from hopeless up there:
On April 05 2014 10:59 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 09:15 Vivax wrote:On April 03 2014 20:07 Tehpoofter wrote:On April 03 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:hey tehpoofter! are you around? did you get converted or something? why did you stop playing during D2  I'm around, sadly not converted as apparently we lost our shrink and doctor. That sucks gum played it like that with the name thing. I thought it was interesting kush can do the vote thing and shoot during the day that's a pretty strong town role imo. I think you pointed this out thrawn. I think scum is somewhere between Vivax, Hopeless, Toad.... Vivax for reasons I've stated. Toad because he's claiming to not have a vote that counts and he can't die at night that is like the tree stump role on epic mafia which is kinda useless and easy to claim as mafia (I have done it in video mafia on several occasions) cause you never have to explain why you're alive and you can no vote and absolve yourself of all responsibility. (I've been busy with work and other games so haven't had time to dive but have we confirmed Toad's vote doesn't count?) Hopeless - I believe austin had a case on hopeless where he was around at day end voting on rayn after the claim saying it seemed fake without a cc. I was around then too and had been hard on rayn all day and wanted to get my vote off him to someone else (ended up on the doctor whoops) but still not on the claimed role. Town for me is thrawn, kush, austin, amiko (tenatively cause of the heal and he seems to be piecing the game together) On April 04 2014 05:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
bah this role claim stuff would happen while I'm commuting and starting work....
@DJO why do you think djo's role is maf sided?
##unvote
##vote kitaman
I'm not convinced any of the roles have to be blue even toads but if town lynches a third straight blue we're pretty much SoL. I mean, he has me, Toad and hopeless as scumreads. When he comes back he votes kita when that vote doesn't have any effect, doesn't try to move people from Toad to him. And most of all he says he's not convinced that all roles have to be blue but that's the reason he doesn't want to lynch his former scumread. I really like what Vivax posted on tehpoofter, especially since his suspicions are on what I believe (atm) to be 3 townies (Vivax, me, Toad) I'd also like to note that Kita isnt mentioned at all in that first quote which is fishy all on its own.
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There is no evolution of his read on kita between those posts.
Hopeless simply knows he's scum and says TP is fishy for not mentioning him.
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Come on guys, be good and let us finally finish this game.
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On April 07 2014 13:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
so we'll flip kita first and then worry about me/poof right?
Sure, but first you have to votenuke your scumbuddy.
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I think hopeless just closed his browser when I showed the thread how he slips alignments. I will answer in his stead, authenticity guaranteed.
On April 07 2014 13:13 Amiko wrote:
@Hopeless
When did you first think kush might be scum?
When he read his role pm.
Why did you find Austin's case more compelling than Kita's given your game-long town read of kush?
Cause one thinks that always being on your scumbuddys side all game long looks bad on the long term.
Why not defend kush since you had been townreading him?
It would look bad later.
Also are you in a zombie army?
He is alive, just underwent special plastic surgery with some brain reprogramming.
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Austin didn't you read those posts where he slips that I'm town and kita is scum?
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Amiko you have 6 hours for your decision. Kita is the common link, is there a scenario where you think he could not be scum? Do you think hopeless is town after seeing how he slips alignments?
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You could argue he doesn't slip alignments but says that stuff based on his current read but as displayed by the first quote in the series he used connections in a way that is incompatible with his previous reads.
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Precisely, that's roughly 30 minutes after that post. He uses a connection based argument that involves a supposed null read.
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I think you should still nuke kita first cause basically when it's between hopeless and poofter it becomes more complicated cause you have to separate the bad townie from the scum.
Kita is good town so it's easier to tell when he's scum, hence I'm more sure that he is over hopeless who could as well just be derp cause he also looks bad as town.
aaaand we get a roleblock out of the way, although hopeless probably has another one.
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I know the above post sounds kinda weird. But the earlier we get kitascum out of the way the better and I don't wanna make a mistake cause I couldn't differentiate between bad townie and scum, although hopeless does look awful, but so do certain things on TP.
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Thrawn y no opinions on hopeless?
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On April 07 2014 13:55 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 13:45 Vivax wrote:
Precisely, that's roughly 30 minutes after that post. He uses a connection based argument that involves a supposed null read. That read had nothing to do with my read on you, it had to do with my perceived read on JJD and what a scum-JJD might do vs what a town-JJD might do. Scum JJD lies to get one of us lynched. Town JJD does not.
You say he's town cause he doesn't want to lynch me. That implies scum would want to lynch me. That implies you knew or at the very least knew I'm town, after a post where you call me null. So no, the read didn't have nothing to do with your read on me.
Next you say TP is scum for not mentioning kita after you said he was working towards a town objective.
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On April 07 2014 13:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
because he's my scumbuddy
Not funny, thrawn.
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Austin we need to coordinate our roleblocks.
We should both roleblock one of TP or hopeless. That way if kita chooses to roleblock one of us it still goes through. If he has a scum role, it's blocked. If scum KP isn't factional, he can't kill.
Who do you think is more likely scum among the two? Can we be sure that thrawn is town? The semi-trolling from earlier I didn't like much.
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Do you think kita can roleblock me jailing hopeless if you roleblock kita? Alternatively we can both RB hope.
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I can live with that decision austin atm I'm kinda tired and lazy to think of another way to use our roles.
It's in your hands to win this game for town after kita's flip and my death so I hope you manage to discern who is scum between hopeless ,thrawn and TP. Gl with that.
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This is now the appropriate time to discuss stuff involving Toad/Foolishness.
I don't see an issue here if some guy looks over my shoulder while playing mafia and adds in his thoughts.
GG scum. Amiko truly well played.
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