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On April 08 2014 06:26 Amiko wrote:
N1: No kills
N2: 2 kills
N3: 1 kill
Would you speculate a little about setup given the above kill patterns?
my guess would be a conversion n1. kita. probably only that because being able to convert/kill on the same night sounds op
n2... maybe kita used his vig power? kita claimed to protect austin, that could easily be a cover for his vig shot. i'm still for whatever reason not able to fully grasp all the weird watcher claims that happened earlier so I don't know if my idea fits with what's been claimed. but since we havne't had a vig claim, and 2 scum vig roles is a bit much, my guess is that kita did the dirty. and then scum did a night kill. that would mean no conversion.
n3.. scum nk
what would I speculate about the setup given the above? idk lol. nothing, really.
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oh yeah, kita lied about his role. he said he was a vet, when he was actually a vig. so he was trying to cover up his n2 vig shot.
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On April 08 2014 06:42 Amiko wrote:
I'm writing a bit of a response, but thrawn he did have vet powers while he was town.
hmm?
Thankfully, your sonic screwdriver can do practically anything. This means you have the following three abilities to choose from each night: vig, track, roleblock
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oh. well he still lied about having the vig shot. so i still think it's safe to assume he used it.
(not that any of this really matters though)
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my vote is on hopeless.
tehpoofter was my 2nd strongest read during D1. I read him correctly in the previous game and during D1 he felt similar enough to that game, plus he was one of the more active people in the thread. he was more active D1 than the last time I saw him roll town, and i don't expect his scum play to actually look townier than his town play.
so that means it's hopeless. meh. i still feel like tehpoofter is currently scummier than hopeless, but my D1 read was so strong that it trumps all of that.
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amiko he most definitely used a vig shot. why else would he lie abuot having the vig role?
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can we talk about who we think is scum instead of this?
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austin when you're around i want to talk about the stuff you found scummy about tehpoofter during d1
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austin wtf? you think I was original scum?
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I think it shuld be pretty obvious that that's very very unlikely, I just read my own filter, and what I'm referring to is in N1.
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On April 08 2014 15:13 Amiko wrote:
I see the game state like this:
It's possible there was no conversion last night. Even if there was, there was at least one scum beforehand.
So, my preference is between tehpoofter, hopeless, and thrawn for the lynch.
After reading hopeless, I felt he could be scum, but less chance than kita.
After reading poofter I feel he was pretty towny, though I haven't done kita<->poofter yet.
I haven't reread thrawn again yet... maybe I wrote this before but I feel like I didn't come away with too much when I did it before, maybe I will now that kita and kush flipped scum though.
Thrawn you felt hopeless would be a better lynch than poofter, correct?
Is it that you feel poofter is town? Or that you feel hopeless is scum? What's your thinking when you compare the two?
Yes, tehpoofter's D1 looks incredibly townie. I think there's no possible way for him to be original scum. I played with him in a game right before this, and I immediately recognized him as town based off his first post. His D1 in this game felt close enough to that other game for me to give him the same read. Not only that, but his activity in this game was like 3x his activity in the other game. He's a new player and I don't think many new players are capable of having a more active scum game than town game. I haven't looked much into hopeless filter yet but that's just because of how strongly I feel about tehpoofter's D1.
BTW. There is no way that I'm original mafia and I make this post during N1:
On April 01 2014 11:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
yep, what slam just said. You and austin are both pretty strong town reads for me. Toad seems town, i guess? He made a pont about him becoming less worried about me after i started responding to him normally, and now i'd like to make the pont that I like that he likes that i started responding to him normally. The only voter not on the rayn wagon was gumshoe. Simply due to the number of town reads I have, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was mafia. Austin made a good pont earlier n that his inactivity shouldn't be alignment indicative becasue he posts more as scum and town, but it's his willingness to troll about flavor and be absolutely useless when he does post that makes him scummy.
I still thnk that kita was probably right, that there wern't that many mafia members on D1. Or even if it was some sort of X role (i cant remember the role name, it';s where you are mafia but dont know alignments and your team has to find you) then they would still be hard to find becaue they'd be posting without information about alignments, so they would look like town.
So I think the remaining (likely few, or few "catchable" mafia) would be on the rayn wagon.
kushm4sta, hopeless1der, kitaman27, Amiko, raynpelikoneet (5)
hosts can you clarify that the final votecount which showed 6 on rayn is correct
I didnt pay full attention to the argument slam had about the votecounts but didn't hosts confirm that the count was accurate? that would be there are some hidden voting mechanics going on. People need to claim this ASAP if this is the case imo.
So who on that list is likely to be mafia? I doubt it's kita. I was slightly townreading him for his gimmick at the start of the game, and he made a very casual post near the deadline about "here comes the swtich" which I don't excpect to come form a scum player who is about to get their mislynch. I don't thionk hopeless is scum, i'd like to sheep rayn and austin's reads on him. Amiko I previously thought was town, I will read his filter again and tell you what I think in a bit. But I remember townreading him for all the research he did at the start of the game.
and that leads me to.....
KUSH get the fuck in here
note that I was the first person to notice and call out the extra vote mechanics. i talked about the extra vote for much of N1, talking about how scummy it was and how the person who did it needs to claim, etc. do you really think I would do that if I were kush's scummate?
I know that when he finally announced that the extra vote was his, I townread him for it even after saying the extra voter is probably mafia. But I think my reasons for doing so were justified, and if you read the post where that happens it should come across as pretty honest because I was speaking very directly about the weird state of my read on kush.
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the only way hopeless isn't mafia is if scum started out with 1 scum on D1
or austin or amiko were original scum
and all three of those ideas are ridiculous
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i hate late game. so quiet.
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On April 08 2014 04:37 austinmcc wrote:
We're fine though. I need to make up for last time I became impromptu town leader, lead a scum lynch, and then proceeded to LOLLYNCHTOWNIES for 3-4 cycles and not commit enough time to the game. I do NOT want that happening again, town's got this.
sup austin?
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austin didn't you say that you didn't like tehpoofter's d1 and found his post d1 to be better, and the opposite about me?
so I don't unerstand your perspective there at all.
but idc much about that as long as you aren't wanting to lynch either of us, cause you should be lynchgn hopeless
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austin wtf are these suspicious posts about ehpoofter i've made?
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btw you should add "austin doing nada" to your list
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