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austinmcc
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I would like to hear kita fully roleclaim. I would like to see people discuss what I've posted about kush. SPECIFICALLY, I'm extra interested in him not knowing kita's scumplay and making wild assumptions about kita, and I'm interested in his defense of Kita having too much information (scum would be careful), and I'm interested in his thinking kita might know about conversions and doing nothing with that. | ||
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austinmcc
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But this whole thing really kinda smells to me. | ||
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austinmcc
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If you can use it at night, it would be nice to hold it during the day and fire at night, because we'll have a little more information with a flip and possible role information. You also can't get converted BEFORE night, based on what we know, and that seems nice. THERE'S ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU'RE A MEANIE AND YOU GET NEW POWERS BECAUSE YOU BECAME MAFIA BUT THAT'S KIND OF GOING TO BURN US ANYWAY, SO WE DON'T NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT SCENARIO. I think with 2 roleblocks, given that I believe Vivax to still be town, and a nuke, we're in an okay spot if we lynch scum. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 05:12 thrawn2112 wrote: Right now, yeah.austin are you shipping both kita/kush as original scum? I like your D1. I like amiko's D1. I'm town. I have thought Vivax is townie, and he hasn't done anything to really worry me about that yet. I hate poofter's D1 but like him since, and I don't think that fits for someone who's been scum fo evah. That leaves me hopeless/kita/kush. Again, I need to focus harder on hopeless, but his role appears confirmable (either Vivax and JJD both needed to be scum (impossible), or Vivax scum and one of them knows where JJD targeted (strange), or he's lying (BIG RISK WTF NOT POSSIBLE)). He's done scummy stuff, but so have kita and kush, and kush's interactions with kita are STRANGE. Like VERY STRANGE VERY ODD PARTICULARLY CURIOUS Kush talks a good bit about kita, defending him in odd ways, talking about him and not coming to conclusions, and in comparison to On April 06 2014 03:13 kushm4sta wrote: not ashamed to admit i haven't read their filters. Hard to motivate yoruself in a game where all your reads have been shit. That is pure PoE. (not reading half the game's filters), he knows a LOT about kita's filter during the game and is always willing to talk about kita. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 05:21 Vivax wrote: I don't know that things are simple or not. Last time I saw townrayn get lynched, it was a 100% town wagon.I dunno austin, did I attempt townreading kush for the wrong reasons there?  Was scum simply on the rayn wagon D1, would it be that simple? I personally felt that rayn was NOT scummy on D1, he was too much like townrayn --> throw accusations everywhere and call austinmcc scummy I think that IF kita knows something about conversions, it is VERY ODD that when rayn claims shrink, he doesn't try to push people off, or doesn't really comment on that and question rayn about this. Presumably, kitaman knows that this is a conversion game. Rayn claims a role related to conversions. Kitaman should be interested in this, it's not just a claim but a claim that is either fake or confirms mechanics not specifically in the OP which kitaman also knows about. I would personally, as scum, like to see townRayn die. It's not reason enough to say "SCUM KILLED RAYN BOOM BOOM GAME OVER," but it's not a BAD decision for them to lynch townies, and lynch active townies, and lynch vocal townies. It's more about process of elimination and actual play. These are the people with some pewpy play. Some questionable trains of thought, or questionable final destinations of trains of thought (kitaman with rayn's claim, kush with kitaman's too much info). | ||
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austinmcc
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A lot of what kush has done is not scummy because of roles / actions / flavor / etc, but just actually general town/scum play. Town doesn't say people are town for doing scummy things because scum wouldn't do scummy things. Town is worried about people who have too much information, especially when a townie with that information flips, they worry a little more about an unknown player who had that information. Town doesn't tell people they are underestimating "the fluidity" of someone's reads. If kush is scum, I just want to policy lynch anyone who talks about fluidity in any game. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 06:17 thrawn2112 wrote: I can't figure out whether to smile or frown at thisi'll read kita and post my thoughts later today (austin and vivax gonna be so happy)  Except the frown would be an angry frown. | ||
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austinmcc
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Kita could be a GF, with townkush. Kush could be scum and lying about kita. They're not 100% linked together, although kush's filter is wonky. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 07:14 thrawn2112 wrote: Based on the claimed role, no.wait so kush presumably has 2 votes today, right? and if he's mafia, and there are currently 3 mafia, shouldn't we be in end game? I think that is right. If there are currently 3 mafia and kush is one of them.... then we should have been end gamed already? On April 05 2014 10:41 kushm4sta wrote: Extra vote UNTIL he fires, then gone.You are River Song, a time traveler who always seems to meet the Doctor in the wrong order; every time you meet him, he gets younger and younger. You are handy with a gun, but only have one shot left. You are known for being theatrical, so your kill must happen during the day. To do so type ##Kill: Player name in thread. That person will be flipped as soon as a host is around to do so. To ensure your kill is noticed, PM all the hosts as well. Having a gun affords a girl other privileges besides being able to shoot someone, so as long as you haven’t fired your gun, your vote counts as two votes. This will only show up in the final votecount of the day. You win with the Town. If he's truthful, he wouldn't have the extra vote. If he's lying, well he's lying and we don't know about anything. | ||
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austinmcc
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austinmcc
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It won't disappear. | ||
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austinmcc
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If Amiko ACTUALLY has a nuke AND were mafia, we're just in boatloads of trouble anwyay. If Amiko doesn't have a nuke, he's a lying poopyface and we'll know that based on whether there's a nuke. In some ways, if the nuke exists, Amiko is likely likely town. I find amiko's early stuff townie anyway, and am generally not thinking he be da mafia. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 08:25 Vivax wrote: You're wrong.Guys...The way I read this from Djo's role PM it looks to me like he should have given a nuke to every player before being able to give the scummeter to Kush. Am I reading this wrong or is it badly formulated? He gives out 1 item per night. He gives the item to one person. He cannot give 1 item to Person A, and then a second item to Person A, until he has given 1 item to A, B, C, D ... X He could not have given the scumometer to JJD, because JJD got one item and not everyone had received one item. He could give it to anyone that was NOT JJD, because everyone else was at 0 items received. | ||
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austinmcc
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So the simple AND ALSO THE ONLY REALLY LOGICAL explanation is that the same role created both the first nuke and the scumometer. They were announced in the same way and iirc the role says the item gets annoucned with the daypost. | ||
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Gogo infested terran | ||
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austinmcc
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There's no reason to delay so much as town. There's no reason to delay so much as scum, because HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT HELPFUL. There's no POSSIBLE WAY that everyone reads your big post and believes or disbelieves it, people are going to want to have some back and forth, and figure out where your thoughts are coming from and whether they follow properly. It's just super stalling and taking time when there's really no reason to do so. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 09:12 kitaman27 wrote: Stalling doesn't do ANYTHING as mafia. If anything, it makes you look all suspicious-like. It just doesn't serve a purpose either way, except that in a game where things are slightly stalled or discussion is scant, it doesn't provide a forward push.lol what does stalling do as mafia? I've already said I'm claiming and it's not like it takes me 6 hours to post a fake claim. I did think that I'd have this post finished quite a while ago though, so I do apologize that it's taking so long. If you wanna get a head start on what my post goes into, here you go: "You are the Doctor, the last remaining Time Lord. Being a Time Lord you can survive things most people can’t, thus giving you an extra night life (you are a vet). Unfortunately, you have only your sonic screwdriver with you because you can’t get to your time machine, the TARDIS. Thankfully, your sonic screwdriver can do practically anything. This means you have the following three abilities to choose from each night: protect, track, roleblock. You must use each of these abilities the same number of times before using another ability again, e.g. you must use each ability once before using any ability twice, you must use each ability twice before using any ability three times, etc. PM your action and your target’s name to all hosts. You win with the Town." N1) track djo N2) protect austin | ||
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