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Gogo infested terran | ||
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There's no reason to delay so much as town. There's no reason to delay so much as scum, because HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT HELPFUL. There's no POSSIBLE WAY that everyone reads your big post and believes or disbelieves it, people are going to want to have some back and forth, and figure out where your thoughts are coming from and whether they follow properly. It's just super stalling and taking time when there's really no reason to do so. | ||
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kitaman27
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If you wanna get a head start on what my post goes into, here you go: "You are the Doctor, the last remaining Time Lord. Being a Time Lord you can survive things most people can’t, thus giving you an extra night life (you are a vet). Unfortunately, you have only your sonic screwdriver with you because you can’t get to your time machine, the TARDIS. Thankfully, your sonic screwdriver can do practically anything. This means you have the following three abilities to choose from each night: protect, track, roleblock. You must use each of these abilities the same number of times before using another ability again, e.g. you must use each ability once before using any ability twice, you must use each ability twice before using any ability three times, etc. PM your action and your target’s name to all hosts. You win with the Town." N1) track djo N2) protect austin | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 06 2014 09:12 kitaman27 wrote: Stalling doesn't do ANYTHING as mafia. If anything, it makes you look all suspicious-like. It just doesn't serve a purpose either way, except that in a game where things are slightly stalled or discussion is scant, it doesn't provide a forward push.lol what does stalling do as mafia? I've already said I'm claiming and it's not like it takes me 6 hours to post a fake claim. I did think that I'd have this post finished quite a while ago though, so I do apologize that it's taking so long. If you wanna get a head start on what my post goes into, here you go: "You are the Doctor, the last remaining Time Lord. Being a Time Lord you can survive things most people can’t, thus giving you an extra night life (you are a vet). Unfortunately, you have only your sonic screwdriver with you because you can’t get to your time machine, the TARDIS. Thankfully, your sonic screwdriver can do practically anything. This means you have the following three abilities to choose from each night: protect, track, roleblock. You must use each of these abilities the same number of times before using another ability again, e.g. you must use each ability once before using any ability twice, you must use each ability twice before using any ability three times, etc. PM your action and your target’s name to all hosts. You win with the Town." N1) track djo N2) protect austin | ||
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On March 30 2014 06:18 Hopeless1der wrote: this is a lynch cycle...i can at least understand the slam lynch. This, not so much. On March 30 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote: because the alternative means i need to be a dick to kita and i dont wanna do that right now. On March 30 2014 06:31 Hopeless1der wrote: whered you go kita? do i need to go through the motions of "totes serious voting" to get a response? This bit from Day 1 is kinda interesting. Hopeless starts by taking kita's vote semi-seriously saying "this is a lynch cycle" to make clear he doesn't understand that vote, and Thrawn asks why he would say that. What comes back is a response that is...not serious. When asked about it hopeless says he doesn't want to be a dick to kita (doesn't he want to call it scummy?). Next post he becomes serious and suggests that he would pressure kita to get a response. Implying he does find it suspicious. Then: On March 30 2014 06:39 Hopeless1der wrote: okay...kita is useless for the short-term. I'm headed out to dinner in a bit, so I'll see you guys later He doesn't get the answer. WHO CARES. Kita is useless he says. Kita calls it out (indirectly by asking rayn, makes sense if he thought rayn was possible scum). On March 30 2014 06:52 kitaman27 wrote: rayn do you think this is a reasonable response from a town hopeless based on my vote a few posts into the game? He asks rayn what he thinks of it. about 8 h later he tells what he thinks of it. On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote: *snip* Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless *snip* Hopeless is in thread, kita doesn't go after him, at all. Likely relevant once kita flips scum. Next interaction analysis: Kita vs thrawn. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ On March 30 2014 06:39 thrawn2112 wrote: i'll join you kita but why are we voting rayn? On March 30 2014 10:15 kitaman27 wrote: Because I told him to and he obeyed. You'd agree that cybermen are less likely to have a spine, no? Also, you should vote for thrawn. On March 30 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote: kita why di you vote for rayn? kita why did you tell me to vote for rayn? kita why did i vote for rayn kita why rayn why? On March 30 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote: I start most games out with a random vote. Why is this your biggest concern when I clearly voted for rayn at the point where he hardly even has a post? Are you unfamiliar with the concept or do you think that my vote had malicious intentions? On March 30 2014 12:33 kitaman27 wrote: Sheeping a vote is when a player makes a case, you agree with their argument without contributing anything, and you vote for the same player. This wasn't a sheep vote since I simply told you to vote and you complied. I'm not going to take your vote an hour into the game very seriously anyways, it's more the fact that you chose to take the opportunity to work with me and focus on my vote, rather than pushing anything else so far. Probably not. He clearly isn't aware, so why ask twice whether he should be expected? Doesn't seem very relevant to me. Observations:
Now, if I random vote and some guy joins me, and I don't take his vote seriously, and it's all shenannies, how do I jump to the conclusion that the guy could be scum? Cause he chose to work with me rather than pushing other stuff WHEN HIS VOTE WASN'T SERIOUS? Why do I tell that guy that I do that in almost every game implying that I'm reproaching him for not knowing that when it's all shenannies anyway? Why do I say that it's irrelevant if thrawn knows I do that after previously telling him that I do that? Kita calls thrawn scum for joining him. He joined him by voting, the vote wasn't serious. Thrawn asks wtf is going on. Kita says he does that every game, does thrawn think it was a malicious vote? THE VOTES WEREN'T SERIOUS. Poofter asks if thrawn should know if he does that every game, kita says probably not. It's irrelevant. Kita says he does that every game It's irrelevant if thrawn knows that. Now this is what I think happened. Kita emulated his play from shadow. Not only it causes confusion, it also is an imitation of his town play. He sees how his moves pan out and then calibrates his reads accordingly. He random votes, asks for somebody to join him (Which is a thing he doesn't mention as strategy in his huge explanation post where he makes his case on rayn, cause he townread thrawn after all of this for unknown reasons). So thrawn joins him, ASKS HIM WHY RAYN. Kita deduces: THIS DUDE IS SCUM CAUSE HE DOES WHAT I ASKED FOR AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE. His vote can't be taken seriously but this dude is scum, scum is placing a non serious vote and asking me why I do what I do. This must literally have been kita's reasoning. Then kita finally answers. "THRAWN I DO THAT MOST GAMES DO YOU THINK IT'S AN EVIL VOTE". What is out of place here is that kita uses that justification in a post where he plays back the ball to thrawn to probe if he's scum when he already decided he is cause he chose to work with him. He defends himself from his scumread, KNOWING that thrawn doesn't know that, telling Poofter that his question is irrelevant when the same matter was relevant to kita a few posts ago. I take this as kita indicating he was suspicious of Poofter for that ("Hey why you ask pointless questions"). Later: People of interest: Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced. I don't have a mega slip here, but what I have is the strong feeling that kita's reads at this stage were fake cause the reasoning he uses and the way he responds to his scumreads is not something I would expect from a townie, and I hope you get the same feeling. The big post where he mentions multiple suspects to then later PUSH ONLY RAYN BASED ON THE TRAP POST. The way he stops going after hopeless until D2 when he's being discusses for lynch. The way he defends from thrawn and the arguments he uses against him. What I can tell from this once kita flips scum is that thrawn is town or at the very last was town during D1 cause scum wouldn't go overdefensive and overaccusatory like kita did if thrawn wasn't his buddy. | ||
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austinmcc
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IT'S.........BEAUTIFUL | ||
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Vivax
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Looks like I got faster fingers kita, or I'm faster cause I don't need time to make up fake arguments. | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:47 austinmcc wrote: MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT THAT POST IS THAT IT IS REALLY LONG AND SOME THINGS ARE IN CAPS FOR EMPHASIS. IT'S.........BEAUTIFUL   | ||
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kitaman27
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On April 06 2014 09:49 Vivax wrote: EBWOP: If thrawn was his buddy. Looks like I got faster fingers kita, or I'm faster cause I don't need time to make up fake arguments. Right, because fake arguments clearly take longer to write than real ones. GOOD JOB CHAMP. | ||
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austinmcc
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I would read some filters and respond and we'll hunt scum whether or not you're scum, yesyes go! | ||
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kushm4sta
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can you facilitate this process as to minimize the amount of time i have to spend talking to you? | ||
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