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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 05 2014 23:35 GMT
#2321
Meh, guess it's just badly formulated cause it wouldn't make much sense that he can create a different invention each night then.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 05 2014 23:36 GMT
#2322
Yeah, the "you can invent one item, and if the game goes to like day 8 somehow and you're still around, you can maybe invent a second item" role is ... probably not one that hosts give out much
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 05 2014 23:43 GMT
#2323
Congrats on 6k! ^_^
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 05 2014 23:43 GMT
#2324
Man I have wasted all of my milestone posts, but thanks!

Gogo infested terran
Fe fi fo fum.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 05 2014 23:44 GMT
#2325
yeah vivax new invention each night but can't repeatedly item the same person. Thats how I understand it + the mod announcing. Its odd that he gave the item to kush though.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 06 2014 00:07 GMT
#2326
This kita thing is just wrong.

There's no reason to delay so much as town. There's no reason to delay so much as scum, because HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT HELPFUL.

There's no POSSIBLE WAY that everyone reads your big post and believes or disbelieves it, people are going to want to have some back and forth, and figure out where your thoughts are coming from and whether they follow properly.

It's just super stalling and taking time when there's really no reason to do so.
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 06 2014 00:12 GMT
#2327
lol what does stalling do as mafia? I've already said I'm claiming and it's not like it takes me 6 hours to post a fake claim. I did think that I'd have this post finished quite a while ago though, so I do apologize that it's taking so long.

If you wanna get a head start on what my post goes into, here you go:

"You are the Doctor, the last remaining Time Lord. Being a Time Lord you can survive things most people can’t, thus giving you an extra night life (you are a vet). Unfortunately, you have only your sonic screwdriver with you because you can’t get to your time machine, the TARDIS. Thankfully, your sonic screwdriver can do practically anything. This means you have the following three abilities to choose from each night: protect, track, roleblock. You must use each of these abilities the same number of times before using another ability again, e.g. you must use each ability once before using any ability twice, you must use each ability twice before using any ability three times, etc. PM your action and your target’s name to all hosts.

You win with the Town."

N1) track djo
N2) protect austin

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 06 2014 00:16 GMT
#2328
On April 06 2014 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:
lol what does stalling do as mafia? I've already said I'm claiming and it's not like it takes me 6 hours to post a fake claim. I did think that I'd have this post finished quite a while ago though, so I do apologize that it's taking so long.

If you wanna get a head start on what my post goes into, here you go:

"You are the Doctor, the last remaining Time Lord. Being a Time Lord you can survive things most people can’t, thus giving you an extra night life (you are a vet). Unfortunately, you have only your sonic screwdriver with you because you can’t get to your time machine, the TARDIS. Thankfully, your sonic screwdriver can do practically anything. This means you have the following three abilities to choose from each night: protect, track, roleblock. You must use each of these abilities the same number of times before using another ability again, e.g. you must use each ability once before using any ability twice, you must use each ability twice before using any ability three times, etc. PM your action and your target’s name to all hosts.

You win with the Town."

N1) track djo
N2) protect austin

Stalling doesn't do ANYTHING as mafia. If anything, it makes you look all suspicious-like. It just doesn't serve a purpose either way, except that in a game where things are slightly stalled or discussion is scant, it doesn't provide a forward push.
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 06 2014 00:16 GMT
#2329
I just don't want to waste time explaining my actions, when I'm already doing so in my post, further delaying the completion of the post
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 06 2014 00:30 GMT
#2330
So you saw Djo going to the guy who got a nuke the next day and didn't protect him when you could be sure you found a blue or worst case a scum that doesn't get benefits from you protecting him? Seems legit.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 06 2014 00:35 GMT
#2331
Yep, as I said, explaining in post.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 06 2014 00:44 GMT
#2332
On March 30 2014 06:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Hello!

##Vote: raynpelikoneet

this is a lynch cycle...i can at least understand the slam lynch. This, not so much.


On March 30 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 30 2014 06:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 30 2014 06:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 30 2014 06:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 30 2014 06:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Hello!

##Vote: raynpelikoneet

this is a lynch cycle


hm?

maybe he wants to vote rayn for doctor mayor?

@Slam theres a vote thread


why would you think to say that?

because the alternative means i need to be a dick to kita and i dont wanna do that right now.


On March 30 2014 06:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
whered you go kita? do i need to go through the motions of "totes serious voting" to get a response?


This bit from Day 1 is kinda interesting. Hopeless starts by taking kita's vote semi-seriously saying "this is a lynch cycle" to make clear he doesn't understand that vote, and Thrawn asks why he would say that.

What comes back is a response that is...not serious. When asked about it hopeless says he doesn't want to be a dick to kita (doesn't he want to call it scummy?).

Next post he becomes serious and suggests that he would pressure kita to get a response. Implying he does find it suspicious.

Then:

On March 30 2014 06:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay...kita is useless for the short-term. I'm headed out to dinner in a bit, so I'll see you guys later


He doesn't get the answer. WHO CARES. Kita is useless he says. Kita calls it out (indirectly by asking rayn, makes sense if he thought rayn was possible scum).

On March 30 2014 06:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
this is a lynch cycle...i can at least understand the slam lynch. This, not so much.


Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
because the alternative means i need to be a dick to kita and i dont wanna do that right now.


Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
i do. Why did you vote rayn?


Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
do i need to go through the motions of "totes serious voting" to get a response?


rayn do you think this is a reasonable response from a town hopeless based on my vote a few posts into the game?


He asks rayn what he thinks of it. about 8 h later he tells what he thinks of it.

On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote:

*snip*

Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless

*snip*


Hopeless is in thread, kita doesn't go after him, at all. Likely relevant once kita flips scum. Next interaction analysis: Kita vs thrawn.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________

On March 30 2014 06:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'll join you kita

but why are we voting rayn?


On March 30 2014 10:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 10:02 Amiko wrote:
On March 30 2014 06:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita why am I voting for rayn?

On March 30 2014 07:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Voting for buddy vote. I don't like friends.

##Unovte
##Vote thrawn2112


hey kita why is thrawn voting for rayn?


Because I told him to and he obeyed. You'd agree that cybermen are less likely to have a spine, no?

Also, you should vote for thrawn.


On March 30 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita why di you vote for rayn?

kita why did you tell me to vote for rayn?

kita why did i vote for rayn

kita why rayn

why?


On March 30 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita why di you vote for rayn?

kita why did you tell me to vote for rayn?

kita why did i vote for rayn

kita why rayn

why?


I start most games out with a random vote. Why is this your biggest concern when I clearly voted for rayn at the point where he hardly even has a post? Are you unfamiliar with the concept or do you think that my vote had malicious intentions?


On March 30 2014 12:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 11:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 30 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 30 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita why di you vote for rayn?

kita why did you tell me to vote for rayn?

kita why did i vote for rayn

kita why rayn

why?


I start most games out with a random vote.
Why is this your biggest concern when I clearly voted for rayn at the point where he hardly even has a post? Are you unfamiliar with the concept or do you think that my vote had malicious intentions?


I'm curious as to why you would tell people to sheep your vote and then vote for them when they do?


Sheeping a vote is when a player makes a case, you agree with their argument without contributing anything, and you vote for the same player.

This wasn't a sheep vote since I simply told you to vote and you complied. I'm not going to take your vote an hour into the game very seriously anyways, it's more the fact that you chose to take the opportunity to work with me and focus on my vote, rather than pushing anything else so far.

Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 12:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
On March 30 2014 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 30 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita why di you vote for rayn?

kita why did you tell me to vote for rayn?

kita why did i vote for rayn

kita why rayn

why?


I start most games out with a random vote. Why is this your biggest concern when I clearly voted for rayn at the point where he hardly even has a post? Are you unfamiliar with the concept or do you think that my vote had malicious intentions?

@kita Is this a meta you expect Thrawn should know?


Probably not. He clearly isn't aware, so why ask twice whether he should be expected? Doesn't seem very relevant to me.


Observations:
  • kita tells people to vote for thrawn, thinks he is scummy for joining him.
  • when asked by thrawn about his motive, kita replies defensively saying he starts most of his games with a random vote, and says his vote wasn't serious and asks if thrawn saw that as a scummy vote.
  • Kita says that he didn't take thrawn's vote seriously. And says the reason for his suspicion is that thrawn chose to work with him and focus on his vote.
  • When poofter asks him if thrawn should know about the random voting, kita says no and that it's irrelevant.


Now, if I random vote and some guy joins me, and I don't take his vote seriously, and it's all shenannies, how do I jump to the conclusion that the guy could be scum? Cause he chose to work with me rather than pushing other stuff WHEN HIS VOTE WASN'T SERIOUS?

Why do I tell that guy that I do that in almost every game implying that I'm reproaching him for not knowing that when it's all shenannies anyway? Why do I say that it's irrelevant if thrawn knows I do that after previously telling him that I do that?

Kita calls thrawn scum for joining him. He joined him by voting, the vote wasn't serious.
Thrawn asks wtf is going on.
Kita says he does that every game, does thrawn think it was a malicious vote?
THE VOTES WEREN'T SERIOUS.
Poofter asks if thrawn should know if he does that every game, kita says probably not.
It's irrelevant.
Kita says he does that every game

It's irrelevant if thrawn knows that.

Now this is what I think happened. Kita emulated his play from shadow. Not only it causes confusion, it also is an imitation of his town play. He sees how his moves pan out and then calibrates his reads accordingly.

He random votes, asks for somebody to join him (Which is a thing he doesn't mention as strategy in his huge explanation post where he makes his case on rayn, cause he townread thrawn after all of this for unknown reasons).

So thrawn joins him, ASKS HIM WHY RAYN. Kita deduces: THIS DUDE IS SCUM CAUSE HE DOES WHAT I ASKED FOR AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE. His vote can't be taken seriously but this dude is scum, scum is placing a non serious vote and asking me why I do what I do. This must literally have been kita's reasoning.

Then kita finally answers.
"THRAWN I DO THAT MOST GAMES DO YOU THINK IT'S AN EVIL VOTE".

What is out of place here is that kita uses that justification in a post where he plays back the ball to thrawn to probe if he's scum when he already decided he is cause he chose to work with him.

He defends himself from his scumread, KNOWING that thrawn doesn't know that, telling Poofter that his question is irrelevant when the same matter was relevant to kita a few posts ago. I take this as kita indicating he was suspicious of Poofter for that ("Hey why you ask pointless questions").

Later:

People of interest:

Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced.


I don't have a mega slip here, but what I have is the strong feeling that kita's reads at this stage were fake cause the reasoning he uses and the way he responds to his scumreads is not something I would expect from a townie, and I hope you get the same feeling. The big post where he mentions multiple suspects to then later PUSH ONLY RAYN BASED ON THE TRAP POST. The way he stops going after hopeless until D2 when he's being discusses for lynch. The way he defends from thrawn and the arguments he uses against him.

What I can tell from this once kita flips scum is that thrawn is town or at the very last was town during D1 cause scum wouldn't go overdefensive and overaccusatory like kita did if thrawn wasn't his buddy.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 06 2014 00:47 GMT
#2333
MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT THAT POST IS THAT IT IS REALLY LONG AND SOME THINGS ARE IN CAPS FOR EMPHASIS.

IT'S.........BEAUTIFUL
Fe fi fo fum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 06 2014 00:49 GMT
#2334
EBWOP: If thrawn was his buddy.

Looks like I got faster fingers kita, or I'm faster cause I don't need time to make up fake arguments.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 06 2014 00:52 GMT
#2335
On April 06 2014 09:47 austinmcc wrote:
MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT THAT POST IS THAT IT IS REALLY LONG AND SOME THINGS ARE IN CAPS FOR EMPHASIS.

IT'S.........BEAUTIFUL


kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 06 2014 00:52 GMT
#2336
On April 06 2014 09:49 Vivax wrote:
EBWOP: If thrawn was his buddy.

Looks like I got faster fingers kita, or I'm faster cause I don't need time to make up fake arguments.


Right, because fake arguments clearly take longer to write than real ones.

GOOD JOB CHAMP.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 06 2014 01:00 GMT
#2337
hi
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 06 2014 01:01 GMT
#2338
hi kush. Some of your posts have been really weird and/or scummy. You not lookin' so hot.

I would read some filters and respond and we'll hunt scum whether or not you're scum, yesyes go!
Fe fi fo fum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 06 2014 01:02 GMT
#2339
godamnit austin which posts?
can you facilitate this process as to minimize the amount of time i have to spend talking to you?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 06 2014 01:02 GMT
#2340
also you realize im mother fucking river song right?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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