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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 17:39 GMT
#1301
because I don't think that is correct
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 17:40 GMT
#1302
we talked about you earlier, did you not see that?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:40 GMT
#1303
well ok
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:40 GMT
#1304
On March 20 2014 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
we talked about you earlier, did you not see that?


yes
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 17:45 GMT
#1305
On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.

I think it's bad logic to think so.


rayn you're a dumbass.

Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time.

My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it.
Computer says mafia
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:46 GMT
#1306
On March 20 2014 02:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
we talked about you earlier, did you not see that?


yes


yes as in, yes I saw it. something you want to talk about?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 17:47 GMT
#1307
On March 20 2014 02:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
we talked about you earlier, did you not see that?


yes


yes as in, yes I saw it. something you want to talk about?



why you mentioned about 5 things that made dp mafia but then decided to not put him on your poe list?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 17:47 GMT
#1308
Maybe rayn is the head of ministry of intelligence and has not approved my investigation methods thus my conclusions must be ignored, no matter their results.

Glory to Liquidia.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 17:48 GMT
#1309
On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.

I think it's bad logic to think so.


rayn you're a dumbass.

Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time.

My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it.

What i am trying to say is that the act in itself is not alignment indicative. The reasons behind them might be. You know, basic stuff.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2014 17:51 GMT
#1310
On March 20 2014 02:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless is town so i dont care about that question.

ggtmy should probably go on that list but there is something about how this stuff happened that makes me think he might be town:

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 00:10 Giggletummy wrote:

(1) I was fishing for a reaction. I got a scummy one. Therefore, DP is scum. He's done some stuff since, but I don't care, original reasons stand. (See this post, which is why I marked it - + Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote:
The red reply thing? That was good.
3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply.
rayn kept up pressure.
Coag kept replying. With more caps.

I don't see overdefensive.


Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm.


What does that mean?

I think you are scummy scum.

Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless.

I liked what Kush said.



On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote:
pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush.



For this post:

On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.

Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.

I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.



I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be.

I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point.

Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased.

-Koshi his judgement-



as for oats, he had been consistently calling me scum up till a point where he wrote a lynch list that didn't innclude me, nowhere in his filter does it indicate that his read on me was changing before that lynch list post. his push on me wa a main component of his play so if he were scum i'd expect him to at least document the fact that his thrawn-read changed, if not give his reasons for the flop, given how scum want to keep their story straight. furthur, the fact that he has reads that change that aren't documented in his posts suggest that he is actualyl thinking about his reads even when he's not posting about them


He did at least own up to dropping the read.

Who knows.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21027165
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2014 17:52 GMT
#1311
On March 20 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
we talked about you earlier, did you not see that?


yes


yes as in, yes I saw it. something you want to talk about?



why you mentioned about 5 things that made dp mafia but then decided to not put him on your poe list?

Sick burn. I'll follow you anywhere.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:53 GMT
#1312
On March 20 2014 02:51 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless is town so i dont care about that question.

ggtmy should probably go on that list but there is something about how this stuff happened that makes me think he might be town:

On March 20 2014 00:10 Giggletummy wrote:

(1) I was fishing for a reaction. I got a scummy one. Therefore, DP is scum. He's done some stuff since, but I don't care, original reasons stand. (See this post, which is why I marked it - + Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote:
The red reply thing? That was good.
3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply.
rayn kept up pressure.
Coag kept replying. With more caps.

I don't see overdefensive.


Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm.


What does that mean?

I think you are scummy scum.

Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless.

I liked what Kush said.



On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote:
pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush.



For this post:

On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.

Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.

I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.



I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be.

I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point.

Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased.

-Koshi his judgement-



as for oats, he had been consistently calling me scum up till a point where he wrote a lynch list that didn't innclude me, nowhere in his filter does it indicate that his read on me was changing before that lynch list post. his push on me wa a main component of his play so if he were scum i'd expect him to at least document the fact that his thrawn-read changed, if not give his reasons for the flop, given how scum want to keep their story straight. furthur, the fact that he has reads that change that aren't documented in his posts suggest that he is actualyl thinking about his reads even when he's not posting about them


He did at least own up to dropping the read.

Who knows.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21027165


that's only because he was asked about it, doesn't count
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 17:54 GMT
#1313
People i don't like atm:

GiggleTummy - as explained
djodref - made one case which he has retracted from, then disappeared
Vivax - what Koshi said
tehpoofter - is not reading properly, refuses to answer simple questions

Hopeless1der - needs to help if town
VisceraEyes - waiting for contributions, needs to help if town

Alakaslam - MIA
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2014 17:58 GMT
#1314
I'll help rayn, I'm with you on GT and Hopeless. Djodref soft-defended me at a really weird time, and I don't know what Kush said about Vivax but I assume you agree so Ima go look
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:58 GMT
#1315
On March 20 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
we talked about you earlier, did you not see that?


yes


yes as in, yes I saw it. something you want to talk about?



why you mentioned about 5 things that made dp mafia but then decided to not put him on your poe list?


I have no clue. I will say that all those reasons I mentioned could have easily happened as a direct result of you tunneling him. like, dp's non-read on you could be because of the exact same reasons I was having trouble reading you. you were being a huge asshole during that tunnel and it just didn't feel genuine, it felt like you were edging him on to try and force him into looking scummier.

so maybe that's why I included you but ommitted dp, but honestly i do not remember. poe lists tend to be snap decisions for me
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 19 2014 17:59 GMT
#1316
Off the bat I would say hopeless, thrawn and giggle are scum. Full reasoning in roughly 6-8 hours when I'm awake and energized. As a preliminary I suggest you look at the timing when thrawn started posting seriously (hint: After Coag flipped, he +1d on Coag and went back to doing nothing previous to that).

Anyone who calls me scum for inactivity gets dumb-or-scum-points. I have a life outside of mafia sometimes, will post schedule if host allows it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 18:00 GMT
#1317
thrawn what has DP done that make you think that he is town?
This is what you say:
On March 19 2014 19:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:29 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve


And for what reason exactly ?


a lack of reasons not to lynch him


And why VE over some other guys I assume you also lack of reasons not to lynch ?
Why did you bring up a lynch on VE just when DP was just mentioning him ?


here is my current pool of lynch candidates, i've arrived at this list by eliminating people who have done things that make me think they must be or probably are town

3. Hopeless1der
4. djodref
5. Holyflare
6. VisceraEyes
11. Oatsmaster
12. GiggleTummy
15. Alakaslam

I never said "VE over some other guys," there are obviously a lot of people in this game that deserve to die

there must be a reason.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2014 18:03 GMT
#1318
If we can eliminate Vivax and VE from being mafia this will be really good.

VE talk to me about tehpoofer. Did you look at his posts other than his posts towards you at the start of the game? Do you think that's alignment indicative? I mean, it's the easiest way to start a game with players you have not played with (excluding you) as either alignment.
table for two on a tv tray
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 18:03 GMT
#1319
On March 20 2014 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn what has DP done that make you think that he is town?
This is what you say:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:29 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve


And for what reason exactly ?


a lack of reasons not to lynch him


And why VE over some other guys I assume you also lack of reasons not to lynch ?
Why did you bring up a lynch on VE just when DP was just mentioning him ?


here is my current pool of lynch candidates, i've arrived at this list by eliminating people who have done things that make me think they must be or probably are town

3. Hopeless1der
4. djodref
5. Holyflare
6. VisceraEyes
11. Oatsmaster
12. GiggleTummy
15. Alakaslam

I never said "VE over some other guys," there are obviously a lot of people in this game that deserve to die

there must be a reason.


this post felt pretty truthful
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2014 18:09 GMT
#1320
On March 20 2014 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Off the bat I would say hopeless, thrawn and giggle are scum. Full reasoning in roughly 6-8 hours when I'm awake and energized. As a preliminary I suggest you look at the timing when thrawn started posting seriously (hint: After Coag flipped, he +1d on Coag and went back to doing nothing previous to that).

Anyone who calls me scum for inactivity gets dumb-or-scum-points. I have a life outside of mafia sometimes, will post schedule if host allows it.

Mafia always got crazy much shit to do. Way more shit then town.

Fact.
I had a good night of sleep.
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