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On March 23 2014 13:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like there is no reason Oats should be so sure of Djo being mafia unless he has a red check on him. Absolutely no way.
His case is from something about 24h into D1 and it has not evolved since. Flips from D1 and N1 highly suggest Djo is not mafia. Oats hasn't added anything to his case since then, and he is not here telling us why the guy he is 100% sure is mafia should be our lynch instead of saying "you should not think i am mafia".
I like this way better than the whole Oats said he didnt like a maf dying. Which i think is just super weird as the only evidence.Thanks rayn.
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@rayn kk going to find my mind reading device.
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On March 23 2014 15:07 thrawn2112 wrote:town oats is unlynchable 
so we lynch him and hes guaranteed mafia?
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Not sure If I'll be around before deadline as I'm going to sleep now. I'll try to wake up before but I'm just going to say fuck it and sheep rayn this game. If he goes 3 for 3 I will refer to him as "Rayn the God" for the rest of the game...
## Vote Oats .... paint to come.
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Just waking up... haven't read what happened to get djo killed? catching up now.
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On March 24 2014 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Thing is though, no one was in any hurry to save Oats there at the deadline, it was me who saved him, and the votes already on djodref are 2 confirmed townies + 2 strong townreads + oats himself.
Like unless you think I'm mafia with Oats, he's town, or his partner did not give a shit, or DP/thrawn is mafia.
Looks like Slam was asking rayn ho to hammer then didn't and Palmered hammered instead. I like this post though cause unless you see a Palmer/Oats mafia world its most likely not a mafia hammering there cause no reason for Palmer to switch from a town to a town if Oats is town too so Palmer is only mafia here if its with Oats exactly I feel like which is really good info for the future.(Of course maybe Palmer as mafia could read DJO as a blue and Oats VT but thats super far fetched.)
If I had been awake during the last bit I probably would have voted DJO too I said earlier in the day I had a scum read on him and tried to figure out why Oats was being voted on by Rayn.
The best thing about this vote is that it polarizes some mafia teams. Like I mentioned if you think Palmer is mafia (which I don't think anyone did minus VE) hes only mafia with Oats so If rayn shoots Oats or something and he flips green Palmer becomes pretty clear in my eyes. The only scum team that possibly could have led that lynch like he said was DP/Thrawn but DP was trying to push off Oats most of the day and even at the end was the only one defending him.
I think the most likely scenario is that we're dealing with lazy mafia in Hopeless/VE/Slam. I feel like the flip and who was around at the end to try and figure the game out leads to Oats leaning more town or scum with a very select few people.
So for me I think that D3 lynch is between Hopeless/Ve/Slam Rayn can pop Oats if he wants and it rules out some scum teams (Palmer/Oats or Oats/DP) We still have I think 2 ML left so I think our odds are pretty good. I think the only way we lose this game is if Koshi happens to be faking his role but seems like someone would have CC so not a world I live in. Does forum mafia usually go this easily?
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Kind of a long post above so I'll summarize for the skimmers:
I think maf is between Hopeless/VE/Slam unless Maf team is one of Palmer/Oats, DP/Oats, or DP/thrawn although I find those three quite unlikely. If I'm right its auto at this point if we lynch the 3.
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@Palmer yeah I know I read that line and I said "thats far fetched" I've read the whole thread and am keeping up thanks.
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On March 24 2014 08:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Poof, why do you suddenly think im not scum?
I explained it in my long post the page before but short version the way yesterday went down you're only on a scum team with Palmer or DP and thats it in my eyes but I read both as town so its unlikely to me you're scum based on the flip and the late switch to DJO. Plus yesterday several times I asked rayn to clarify his read on you I was more pro killing DJO for most of the day. I only voted about 8 hours or so before deadline before I went to bed cause frankly I was sheeping rayn and worst case your lynch would have given town info same as DJO.
Now we know that D1 there were 2 town mislynches being pushed the DJO lynch and Vivax's case on me. So going to spend my free time at work looking back at that and see if anything pops up. Is there a quick way to look up vote counts? I'm assuming not.
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On March 21 2014 01:19 geript wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DbZvPvy.jpg) DarthPunk (1): Holyflare Coagulation (0): DarthPunk, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112Holyflare (1): Giggletummy Tehpoofter (1): DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunkHopeless1der (0): raynpelikoneetdjodref (2): Oatsmaster, Koshi, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneetGiggletummy (3): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk, Tehpoofter, Djodref, DarthPunkVivax (5): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Hoplesss1der Not Voting: Alakaslam Currently Vivax is set to be lynched.
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So looking back at how day 1 played out the only ones really pushing DJO were Oats, Koshi and Thrawn... I find it odd Vivax didn't hop on but I was just looking at the votes and briefly reading while working. So those are the ones on the mislynch day 1.. I do kinda agree with something Palmer said about Thrawn instantly knowing I'm town I mean on one hand good read but a bit of unease would be good.
I need to reread day 1 some more to see how much traction the DJO case was getting and from whom cause frankly I've forgotten and after the way yesterday went I didn't think Oats or Thrawn was mafia but otherwise wtf was scum doing Day1? pushing no ML aside from Vivax's case on me?
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@DP yeah he was the only one who voted for him just on votes. Too busy at work to reread so I just looked at vote count (not the most reliable but a decent start)
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On March 24 2014 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh okay. I don't get what this discussion is about.
Like what is this going to achieve?
You guys are just posting what has happened in thread without any conclusions.
We know now that DJO was a day 1 misslynch being pushed so seeing whose agenda to push that is a decent way to get a scum do you not agree? Thrawn Oats Koshi were the 3 voting on it. Excluding Koshi obviously this leads me to believe That if Thrawn/Oats aren't scum the only scum led push day 1 was onto myself by Vivax..... would not agree rayn that is a useful bit of information?
I think if Slam is mafia the 2nd option is much more viable if he is town then I think there had to be at least one active scum day 1.
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On March 24 2014 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 11:18 Tehpoofter wrote:On March 24 2014 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh okay. I don't get what this discussion is about.
Like what is this going to achieve?
You guys are just posting what has happened in thread without any conclusions. We know now that DJO was a day 1 misslynch being pushed so seeing whose agenda to push that is a decent way to get a scum do you not agree? Thrawn Oats Koshi were the 3 voting on it. Excluding Koshi obviously this leads me to believe That if Thrawn/Oats aren't scum the only scum led push day 1 was onto myself by Vivax..... would not agree rayn that is a useful bit of information? I think if Slam is mafia the 2nd option is much more viable if he is town then I think there had to be at least one active scum day 1. So who is mafia? You are just stating the obvious.
I said it earlier in the thread but at work I don't have time to dig up and read the whole first day to decide who was mafia I was just writing an outline for myself for later.
If Slam is mafia then I think its likely to be VE or Hopeless who are his partners. I gave my list earlier in the day too but I'm not going to look it up cause fuck that. I want to reread the way day 1 went down knowing the flips of 3 of the big lynch canidates and see who was pushing who.
I think posting your train of thought is important as opposed to just randomly posting a case if I get my thought process out there it helps others know where as case comes from. Do you not see how that is important?
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I have stated this is where I am currently. Sleep time now!
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On March 25 2014 07:54 Palmar wrote:
hell he can even guarantee one more cop check, thus make the game end faster.
btw short days please.
Can we do short days? Like is that something we can do?
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So for the unconfirmed its auto in our eyes 5-4 we lynch shoot lynch into the 4 and we guaranteed hit 1 and worst case lose 3 towns (two misses and a nk) assuming all claims are real which no one is ccing so seem real to me.
So In my mind it doesnt matter the order tbh i think Oats is most likely to have a team with the ones left as far as a teammate DP is the obvious connected one to Oats. My next guess would be Oats and Palmer. The game is won at this point only way its not a win is that there is a fake claim.
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@Oats what is scummy about that? Its totally logical and you should think the same thing its an auto win if you're town. You just have had more connections to others than me.
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On March 25 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 08:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Oats what is scummy about that? Its totally logical and you should think the same thing its an auto win if you're town. You just have had more connections to others than me. No it's totally illogical and a way to not contribute if you are mafia.
Its completely logical I disagree with you 100%.
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lynch shoot lynch lynch and its auto assuming all claims are true correct. Unless I messed up the math.
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