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On March 20 2014 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:EBWOP: I mean the last part and what you asked. And my assumption is bad because it does not even make sense to myself. 
Lol okay. So your 2 of 3 maf if hopeless town is bad just to clarify? Cause I actually like the first part and can see a GT Hopeless maf team world quite easy only concern being its like way obvious even to someone like me who hasnt play forum mafia and I assume most of you guys are better than that.
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On March 20 2014 10:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
1 of DP/HF I think
VE has a slight chance but I have him as town atm
poof/vivax/djo is a clusterfuck to me...at least 1 i guess
GT has my vote
and then slam hasnt posted anything
Why 1 of DP/HF?? No way they're both town/maf in your eyes?
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@hopeless hes suggesting that you have been scummy and that the 3 of GT, Me and DJO havent done so and we should have in his eyes so were likely to be aligned with you under the assumption you're mafia. ITs a couple pages before but I'm not going to bother linking it.
Rayn thanks for more of an explanation I sorta see that but to me the 1 of the 3 + hopeless maf is more likely than 2 of the 3 are maf if hopeless is town.
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@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion.
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On March 20 2014 11:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam there is ~20 hours left in the day and noone thinks you are mafia.
lol this is awesome
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@Thrawn thanks for defending me but I got this.
@vivax. Your accusation is shit. I explained my stance on HF quite well and if you can't read what I said as simply bad phrasing from someone then thats fine scum read me for it but you're incorrect. I will explain one last time then I'm on to scum hunting. I said read between the lines that was a poor choice of phrasing I just meant HF wasn't just focused on the Rayn/coag situation but wanted to look at other sources. This made me read him as town even if I didn't think that his case was super strong I wouldn't expect it to be that early so I read him town for making one.
No onto real scum hunting.
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@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.
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On March 20 2014 14:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote. Why haven't you addressed what I wrote?
Its the same thing you wrote before and I'm ignoring your tunneling because your wrong and you clearly are a player that tunnels. Get off me and look elsewhere if you're town which I actually think you are. I've addressed what you said before and did yet again which I can link.
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On March 20 2014 14:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Thrawn thanks for defending me but I got this.
@vivax. Your accusation is shit. I explained my stance on HF quite well and if you can't read what I said as simply bad phrasing from someone then thats fine scum read me for it but you're incorrect. I will explain one last time then I'm on to scum hunting. I said read between the lines that was a poor choice of phrasing I just meant HF wasn't just focused on the Rayn/coag situation but wanted to look at other sources. This made me read him as town even if I didn't think that his case was super strong I wouldn't expect it to be that early so I read him town for making one.
No onto real scum hunting.
@DP i address it again here just so you can see bolded for you. MAn this Tehpoofter guy is town is what you should be typing.
Your point about me changing between the case and the read on HF I meant it as a read on HF and even in my diagram I didn't put you as scummy because I didn't agree that you were from his case I pushed you more towards scum cause at the time I read you more scummy than him but not scummy.
We good? I will entertain your accusations for the next like 30 minutes so feel free to keep them coming but after that if you're town we need to actually kill mafia not fight.
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On March 20 2014 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
@ tehpoofter. What did you like about holyflare 'reading between the lines' and what the fuck does that even mean?
On March 20 2014 10:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion.
There you go
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On March 20 2014 14:56 DarthPunk wrote:
No that does not make sense because you were talking about Holyflare's case on me not about a read on holyflare. You literally said that you liked holyflare's case. Not that you thought that Holy was town and holy's case had nothing to do with the raayn coag situation.
Now you are saying you didn't think the case was good. But originally you said you liked his case. That is a completely out of whack story you have going on.
Fair enough if thats your hangup consider it a misstep I see where you're getting that case and read are different. I meant it as a read at the time I did like the case when I made the original post I have since decided that his case was weak after a reread so I just stuck with the read. I only bring up the case thing because the fact he made a case good or bad was more the fact he made the case.
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@vivax I agreed with the case the first read. I have reread and listened more to what DP says and have decided he is town and the case was weaker than i thought.
@DP I wasn't lying you seriously are wrong change your vote if you really think I'm mafia but you're wrong. I at first thought the case was good and town read him and don't think the case was good anymore. I still read HF as town for bringing up a case even though now after a reread I think its not as good.
We done here? or you guys still want to waste another 4-5 pages being wrong? I'm sure the people waking up will love reading this boring accusation over semantics.
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On March 20 2014 15:33 Vivax wrote:
Also notice how he has Coag among his scumreads but he says that HF is town for ignoring the issue in the next post.
I want to see how he explains that it's townie to not talk about an issue that gives you a scumread on somebody.
Its townie to talk about more than just that especially early in day 1. Its townie to know that just 1 person being mafia isnt enough and forming other circles is good. Even though you may have a good read on one mafia doesn't mean you should tunnel it and in the diagram I wasn't liking Coag but he wasn't even my biggest scum read... I didn't have heavy scum reads the biggest one was on VE because he just hadnt talked and I wanted to read him.
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On March 20 2014 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XKHvMrs.png) He lied. He tried to cover it up. He changed his story. He is scum.
Glad you grew a pair and voted after 30+ hours of accusation. You're still wrong. I think you're town reading your filter so I'm trying to show you I'm not mafia. I realize forum and video mafia are different but if you look at my only other mafia games for forum I played one game and just tunneled on one person the whole game and got lynched day 2. This is me playing town so right this down for your meta DP.
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@HF Do you know vivax and DP play? Is tunneling this poorly on a town indicative of either's alignment? Like I read DP as town from his filter even though hes wrong. Vivax in my opinion could have jumped on the Rayn thing if he was mafia I basically set him up for early but maybe it was super obvious idk. So I actually read them both as town but to me their case is like way too much harping on a little bit of phrasing so just want to see what you think about if this is alignment indicative of either of them.
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On March 20 2014 15:41 Vivax wrote:
Let's put you into the offensive for a moment since that's what you said you wanted, who do you think is mafia and why should we lynch them?
Hurray you made a useful post. Thanks for asking bud! I IF you look at my filter rayn brought up what I think is an awesome post about one of myself GT and DJo to be mafia with hopeless if he is mafia. I really liked this line of reasoning but basically its that the more veteran players are all reading Hopeless mafia and since none of me GT or djo had touched him yet and it seemed obvious were likely to be with him in some fashion and the other of us are bad.
This is really good circle forming and make sense. I think the most likely is GT because his first post he defends hopeless who was under some heat at the time and made a different case (ill look up who it was on in a sec but I'm bad at forums and don't want to lose my train of thought searching) So if I was to pick two it would be GT/hopeless assuming rayn's theory is correct.
Now I also see hopeless being with djo because of something djo brought up
On March 19 2014 22:28 Djodref wrote:
I don't understand what he has against Hopeless exactly and I wouldn't mind him explaining again. The scooby doo thing looks minor to me but I honestly don't want to read a previous game.
tl;dr rayn is rather scummy for me at the moment
He said the case was minor so he could be soft deflecting for a teammate.
To be fair I will say that I left Hopeless out of my early reads which is what DP originally was on me for, so I could be on his team in this sense too as rayn pointed out. This last one is wrong cause I'm town but just thought I'd throw it out there
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On March 20 2014 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Holyflare has played 1 game with me as town and I was a smurf intentionally trying a different style. He is completely unaware of my meta. Also he thinks I am scum so what do you fucking expect from that question?
Like this is what you are doing:
Hey holyflare what do you think of the person whom you have tunneled very obviously all fucking game?
I think he is town but I hope you call him scum again so that it will take pressure of me and I can omgus without it looking like omgus.
I'm giving him a chance not to tunnel like maybe he can say "you know what he does do this as town" or something if he refuses to reconsider it gives me a read on him. I know this may come as a shock to you DP but I do this thing where I reevaluate my reads throughout a game and I give people a chance to talk and listen and prove themselves townie to me. I don't just pick one person and tunnel vision them into the ground.
@DP so Hf's obvious tunnel on you do you read that town? What about vivax? If you knew that I was green and vivax is reading this on me what does that say to you about his alignment?
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@Oats do you think DP and vivax are town tunneling on me recently? Like is that in their town range or maf range? Or have you not played with them enough.
Also what do you think about Rayn's assumption one of me GT DJO is with hopeless? Seems like you think DJO is maf do you think him and hopeless have a strong connection?
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On March 20 2014 16:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Jesus man read the thread. Holy did this to me in my last game as town. I thought he was probably town until he started lying and after he didn't de-tunnel.
Like he is either severely tunneled or scum. Either way his input is meaningless to me for now.
I realize the HF read is redundant I more want to know what you think of vivax.
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All this tunneling going on. lol Reading HF's wall of text now.
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