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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:33 GMT
#765
I'd expect 8-3-1 given PYPness is a bonus for town, not mafia. or 9-3.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:37 GMT
#769
by the way, people need to stop talking in generalities. Like

"but if people don't cooperate" - say *which* people
"but if a trigger happy townie..." - which trigger happy townie?
"if town don't do this..." - who in town?

Enough players, and important ones, have lent support for organisation that if you're going to bring up specific problems, bring them up in relation to specific players.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:37 GMT
#770
On March 06 2014 09:36 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
I'd expect 8-3-1 given PYPness is a bonus for town, not mafia. or 9-3.
OP says 9-3 or 9-2-1

Show nested quote +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor.


Ah. Well I think 9-2-1 is ridiculously imbalanced so I am going to assume there is no survivor.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:39 GMT
#772
On March 06 2014 09:36 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2014 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
On March 06 2014 09:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
but we're supposed to know who has the dayvig and the assassin. If they are silent, tell them both to kill each other. Only one will succeed.
?

We may or may not know if someone else is silent
Even if that person knows, we may or may not know because that person might be mafia and lie

If we have a silent shooter we don't know about, we lynch town (assuming mafia assassin would mean that mafia don't silent day shoot with another role cuz it would just lead to mafia getting lynched).

If someone says "oh ya I'm silent too" then what...we have assassin vigi the claimer, assuming that a silent modification is scummy, and we hopefully hit scum, but then there's no reason for them to claim?



The OP says roles will be modified and we may or may not know how. The SPECIFICS of this plan rely on roles working as posted in the OP. The OP essentially says "The basis for this plan is false."

If we know where KP roles are, that's a pretty massive step in working out what is going on in the game, that is for certain.
I agree with this.

I question our ability to know how exactly they will work. Like...in 4 KP roles if you count JOAT, something's likely funky for one faction or another. And if we don't know how they work, knowing where they are is...equally/less/not at all valuable, because we can act incorrectly based on our knowledge.

I also hate the idea of stocking up on KP roles in general, would so much rather see NOBODY TAKE KP EVER and the leftover dude confirm that, and have it be town with defensive and investigative roles v. mafia.

PYP KP roles seem to be town-seeking.

Maybe we don't know how exactly how they work, but if you narrow the options down to a specific set of people, that's already most of the battle.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:44 GMT
#775
i just think it's very unlikely 9-2-1 would be chosen. i think it's there just to introduce uncertainty.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:47 GMT
#779
On March 06 2014 09:45 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 09:44 marvellosity wrote:
i just think it's very unlikely 9-2-1 would be chosen. i think it's there just to introduce uncertainty.
But assuming the OP is true, either someone claims I AM A SURVIVOR LOLOLOL I WIN or nobody claims that, and we already know which world we're in.

I don't think it adds any uncertainty, because the survivor either claims or doesn't, and that should settle which world we're in

don't care, not important
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 00:59 GMT
#787
##Unvote
##Vote: yamato77
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 01:01 GMT
#788
the problem is, LSB, rayn is not mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 01:08 GMT
#791
you're rarely right about anything, never mind everything, dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 01:21 GMT
#793
yes, you've made that point and obviously everything cannot be 100% regimented after all, can you do something cool like find some mafia now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:23 GMT
#889
gumshoe does looks pretty terrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:24 GMT
#891
Sure why not
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:27 GMT
#893
On March 06 2014 19:26 prplhz wrote:
I picked 6,4 if that's somehow important.

The order looks so weird...

I picked 7,2
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#895
Artanis can you give me some indication of what you're going to choose? I'd like a niftyish role if possible but don't want VT.

Same question goes to Hopeless.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:34 GMT
#898
On March 06 2014 19:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just gonna stick to the plan and pick RB.

That's way more selfless of you than I'd expect :o

So Hopeless gets normal vigilante?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#902
well I feel there must be another 7 chooser?

Spots 8-9 chose the same first number?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#905
On March 06 2014 14:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i'll keep track of this:
1. Palmar [1,1]
2. Oatsmaster [3,1]
3. prplhz [6,4]
4. Hopeless1der [9,5]
5. Artanis[Xp] [11,11]
6. marvellosity [7,2]
7. yamato77 [7,5]
8. austinmcc [8,1]
9. Xatalos [8,3]
10. gumshoe [2,1]
11. LSB [2,1]
12. raynpelikoneet [2,1]


Something like that

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#911
I wonder how large these role modifications could be. Like austin (I think) speculated on detective -> framer. But there's no point having a framer if mafia already took the DT spot already etc.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#912
On March 06 2014 19:43 prplhz wrote:
And I would appreciate it if everyone tried not to be needlessly antagonistic with me.

alright pooface
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:46 GMT
#916
On March 06 2014 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
I wonder how large these role modifications could be. Like austin (I think) speculated on detective -> framer. But there's no point having a framer if mafia already took the DT spot already etc.

Keeping it out of the hands of town when we're not using the kp powers/using them as double lynches seems like good reason enough tbh.

wasn't my point at all
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