I think gum is town though. There's no reason for scum to push themselves into the limelight just to get Rayn out of a top slot whilst putting suspicion on themselves by doing it. I also like his initial post in its sincerity though I strongly disagree with the conclusions. I think gumshoe believes what he's saying.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 00:10 GMT

#750

On March 06 2014 09:08 gumshoe wrote:

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I think youve pulled it off, throughout your filter you've done much more than just be silly, but if you hadnt youd obviusly look alot more scummy, and at the start of the game thats where you were.

Effectively I dont think scum would start holy flaire style this game, and I dont think scum would play around calling themselves scummy(palmer). Because at some point a vig could just go fuck it and instantly dispell the confusion.

"I think the way you've played (entire filter) makes you likely to get shot by a town vigilante."
[ ] yes
[ ] no
Please tick one of the boxes.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 09:25 GMT

#869

Rayn you played with mafia gumshoe before, are you saying this looks similar? I remember how he said what he does as mafia (whilst not in any game) and it doesn't look similar to what he's doing here.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 09:34 GMT

#873

But Rayn, I remember from voice the policy "lynch Gumshoe whenever he's making sense". Are you saying his forum mafia game is the opposite?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 09:38 GMT

#876

ok plammer.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 09:42 GMT

#878

Fair enough. I'll trust your meta read over my own.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 09:47 GMT

#882

It is in the regard that you know what he's capable of as town, like if Grush made the posts he made he'd be confirmed town. The capabilities of a player you learn from meta, but this discussion isn't important.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:28 GMT

#894

Rayn I think you're clearly town and if you think I can create 5 pages of filter in 24 hours as scum then you severely overestimate my scumplay. You don't need to worry about my slot.
I think there's a good chance you're right on gumshoe as my vote indicates. I had some doubts because I didn't see certain scumtells I had for him myself but there were other reasons I voted him which are reduced in effectiveness if I am open about them. I still don't like Hopeless. Feel better about prplhz and don't know what to think about LSB. Haven't read Austin close enough to have an opinion about him.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:33 GMT

#897

I'm just gonna stick to the plan and pick RB.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:37 GMT

#901

On March 06 2014 19:34 marvellosity wrote:

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That's way more selfless of you than I'd expect :o

So Hopeless gets normal vigilante?

I'm too lazy to bother to think of the up and downsides of the plan tbh and if I took something differently I'd have to actually think about it and thinking about plans and such is boring, I'll leave that to rayn.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:42 GMT

#909

Other than Hopeless all probable suspects are close to the bottom though, which I'd imagine something scum would actually want if they're scum because of Rayn's plan unless I'm getting it completely wrong. I'd imagine they'd want control of the powers that COULD be used in their favour and aren't town directed.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:45 GMT

#915

On March 06 2014 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
I wonder how large these role modifications could be. Like austin (I think) speculated on detective -> framer. But there's no point having a framer if mafia already took the DT spot already etc.

Keeping it out of the hands of town when we're not using the kp powers/using them as double lynches seems like good reason enough tbh.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:47 GMT

#918

Well too bad, my point was still relevant.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 06 2014 10:54 GMT

#924

I don't think being low in the picking order is a bad thing here prplhz because the top 5 slots are going to be controlled by town. There'll be less control on lower slots, mafia'll probably gain more from the low profile roles with the current plan.