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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 18:56 GMT
#2232
Mm, LSB being a bus driver might actually make sense. It also makes sense in the context that there's a lot of roles for town and scum get roles to counteract/mess with them. It seems the most reasonable explanation so far. Just surprised that Austin would make himself "look good" by clearing a "lynchbait" LSB. I guess it could be possible he already sacrificed himself to make LSB look better. I'm good with this explanation and that makes LSB my prime lynching target.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 19:04 GMT
#2234
Did you read that wall of text?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 19:26 GMT
#2238
Xatalos' posts prpl.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 19:44 GMT
#2241
On March 09 2014 04:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 03:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Mm, LSB being a bus driver might actually make sense. It also makes sense in the context that there's a lot of roles for town and scum get roles to counteract/mess with them. It seems the most reasonable explanation so far. Just surprised that Austin would make himself "look good" by clearing a "lynchbait" LSB. I guess it could be possible he already sacrificed himself to make LSB look better. I'm good with this explanation and that makes LSB my prime lynching target.


It was a bit weird that austin chose to use all his time "townreading" LSB. What do you think of LSB's evolution of thought process regarding austin during D1 though?

I can't be bothered to think about this anymore. There's good reasons for LSB being scum and there's good reasons for everyone else being town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 20:53 GMT
#2258
What makes the most sense is how LSB didn't want to play the game anymore after the start. He came into the thread, his scumbuddies didn't have any cred at all and he got blown under the dust. Two scum deaths later and he's got a 3 page filter. That is not town LSB.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 22:35 GMT
#2262
Vote LSB already you lazy bum
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 00:30 GMT
#2264
Catch up on the entire thread then get back to us. You can skip a lot of troll pages.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 00:56 GMT
#2266
Prplhz is next on the list for the train if you flip town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:03 GMT
#2268
Hm, that's actually a good point. We should lynch prplhz today instead. You shoot Gumshoe tonight if the game doesn't end.
After that we lynch you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:04 GMT
#2269
That way we can get rid of all the 3 suspects without risking mylo loss to scum. If Gumshoe doesn't die it means you were lying and need to die. If Gumshoe does die then you're the last suspect with any reasonable suspicion left anyway.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#2270
I know I'm not scum and Plumber/Xatalos/Oats being scum with the powers that would require for their role would just be massively stupid.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:07 GMT
#2271
Or maybe we should lynch gumshoe and have you shoot prplhz because gumshoe could have more lives whereas that wouldn't make much sense for a dayvig.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:22 GMT
#2272
Operation get all the scummy people dead
Presumptions: Scum have 2kp each night, of which at least one is faster than jk. To be safe, the plan needs to be faster than that.
Presumptions: Oats, Plumber and Xatalos are confirmed town. Anything else would be very silly.

Ammo
LSB - Vig shot
Xatalos - DT
Me - jailkeep (presumably can stop factional mafia kp but not the other kp)
Plumber - Assassin (If he survives the night)

Worst case scenario, Xatalos and Plumber die, which would result in not being able to confirm two players.
Players that would be left before any town actions:

Oatsmaster
Artanis[Xp]

Two of LSB/prplhz/gumshoe

If we lynch LSB:
We either win, or we're in a terrible spot. Prplhz and Gumshoe are still alive, we lynch one. If we're wrong we lose.

If we lynch prplhz:
We either win, or we tell LSB to shoot Gumshoe.
Gumshoe dies
Game doesn't end, we lynch LSB.
Gumshoe doesn't die
This is the worst case scenario because it _could_ be possible that Gumshoe is a scumvet with a lot of lives and some other funky actions, but I think we still lynch LSB.

If we lynch gumshoe
We either win, or we tell LSB to shoot prplhz.
Prplhz dies
We lynch LSB.
prplhz doesn't die
We still lynch LSB because the chance of a mafia dayvig having multiple lives is ridiculous.

Conclusion
Regardless of whoever we think is more likely, if these three are our only suspects then the optimal play barring even more strange shit is to lynch Gumshoe, then have LSB shoot prplhz.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:24 GMT
#2273
Note: I think LSB is the likeliest to flip scum of the three right now, but I don't think they could do worse than 2 night kp. If LSB's shot goes through and he's town he should be shooting the last mafia. If it's one of Oats/Xatalos/Plumber then fuck this game roles are super dumb gg.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:25 GMT
#2274
So now everyone vote Gumshoe, gogo.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:34 GMT
#2276
If one of those three isn't scum I'm voting Geript for bastard hosting without putting bastard in the thread name.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:35 GMT
#2277
Oh snap, Guardian.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:47 GMT
#2279
Prplhz what do you think of the plan? See any holes in it?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:52 GMT
#2282
Austin's role was still in the same line of the original rolecop idea though. rolecop -> gf seems reasonable. I don't think we need to expect anything extremely gamebreaking in the upcoming night.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 01:55 GMT
#2284
I think my plan is most likely to get all 3 of you dead at the end of D3 and if that doesn't win the game then whatever.
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