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On March 07 2014 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Also, robik: tell us exactly what is wrong with dandels case on you please. Since you think it is really bad that should be easy.

On March 07 2014 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Robik is scum and by far the best lynch today.

• Only goes after easy targets
  
  This is not a case against me and it's bullshit. I brought up a case against Dandelion and Joey yesterday. I don't think I brought up much of a case against anyone else. Obviously Dandelion is an "easy target" because he can't really defend himself cause he hasn't done shit all game besides troll and call me out. Joey isn't an easy target at all and I pointed out many things that were incongruent in what he said
  
  
• Tries to shift blame for the day1 mislynch like a boss just because the mislynch he was on didn't get through (just look at what he said about the VE lynch yesterday in comparison to what he's saying today)
  
  The only thing I know right now is that you and Palmar caused a mislynch. I don't know Joey's role for sure, but I know that my rationale for voting Joey and my reasoning behind it was infinitely better than either of the reasons that Dandelion (no reason) and Palmar (well, i think he would have defended himself better as town) gave.
  
  
• His reads are clearly fake because they don't change naturally like they would if he was town
  
  my reads are 100% genuine and have changed multiple times especially with regards to Boone and Templar, the two people that I know best.
  
  
• They also are only made to fit the 'conclusions' he's trying to push, he decided what his conclusio is first and then posts things that support it ignoring everything that doesn't.

this is bullshit nonsense that doesn't mean or say anything. If he's saying that I'm fitting my conclusion about yesterday's lynch being bad...WELL NO FUCKING SHIT, VE FLIPPED TOWN. You know what I didn't do. I DIDN'T FUCKING VOTE VE. You know what I know this game. THAT VE WAS FUCKING TOWN. I don't know Joey's alignment, but I do know that VE is town and I voted the opposite of that.

Because bitches love this shit I'm even gonna give you a prime example:

I'm extraordinarily scummy for changing my vote last minute.
However, I would also have been extraordinarily scummy for not changing my vote.

ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW DANDELION'S CASE AGAINST ME IS BULLSHIT. HE SAYS I DON'T CHANGE MY OPINION ON THINGS...BUT I FUCKING DO. I don't have perfect information, so I'm analyzing things from both perspectives and trying to draw a fucking conclusion based off of the information that I have

What does that mean? That Robik doesn't think about the game. He's decided to act like he's decided I'm mafia, so now everything ever in the whole world has to mean I'm mafia. Ignoring the fact that I'm confirmed town times 20.

He does the same thing to Killing. Just yells mafia, not even trying to figure out whether that's true or not.

vote et al

On March 07 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:

I want to hear this too. this emotional outburst is not helping you.

On March 08 2014 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you need to calm down dude. I almost want to lynch you on policy for raging like that, as it's very easy to fake as mafia (ie, it's not alignment indicative).

But whatever, we're behind, stop responding to dandel and make some smart cases then.

On March 08 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote:
And you probably should take a step off from your high horse. If you're losing arguments against people you label "trolls", maybe you're terrible at arguing, and tailoring your arguments to your audience.

If town is a bit dumb, you make the arguments that fit that town, you wouldn't explain shit in the same way to a class of playschool kids as you would to a group of university students. It's YOUR job to get your point through.

On March 08 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote:
And you probably should take a step off from your high horse. If you're losing arguments against people you label "trolls", maybe you're terrible at arguing, and tailoring your arguments to your audience.

If town is a bit dumb, you make the arguments that fit that town, you wouldn't explain shit in the same way to a class of playschool kids as you would to a group of university students. It's YOUR job to get your point through.

On March 08 2014 00:53 IAmRobik wrote:

While typing googoogaga over and over again for an unnamed few people in this thread would help them understand what i'm saying, I'd rather just have the intelligent people understand me.

On March 08 2014 00:51 IAmRobik wrote:

FOS you for voting VE, which you admitted today that your terrible reasoning was in fact wrong from the get-go
FOS anyone that jumped on your early RL of VE.
FOS Dandelion for fabricating a case against me
FOS Joey cause he's not playing his town game and he was the other wagon yesterday, so lynching him would be our best play...even our ONLY play.

Also, if there's a vigi in this game, they're bad for not shooting Joey

On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.

GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.

austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.

Robik gives an explanation.

Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).

I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question.

On March 08 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:


Page 1 of Austin Filter, Austin didn't like Palmar.
Also questioned Boone's motives for outing the QT.

Scum points for Palmar
Scum points for Boone.

HAVING SAID THAT: Palmar and Boone are not Mafia together based off of Palmar's insistence on the fact that Boone should have been lynched for her claim. (In before he'd say that if they were mafia together too)

On March 08 2014 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:

This is exactly the point dandel and rayn made. You are basing everything on the VE lynch being scummy/shitty while yesterday you were saying you would like the lynch to be between VE/Killing.

On March 08 2014 01:06 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, do you think Palmar is an idiot? Because if he is not then he knew that his policy would not go through.

On March 08 2014 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:

Well then you know where the problem lies. No need to rage if you don't want to do what's necessary.

On March 08 2014 01:07 IAmRobik wrote:

Cept I didn't choose the side of the confirmed town.....I said I'd like to lynch between VE and Killing because those were the two viable options. Voting on VE was the worse option because Boone was on VE. I'd rather hedge my bets in that spot. Also, I asked Austin to build a case against VE. I did this not to determine VE's alignment, but to determine Austin's. I would have cleared the shit out of him today because of the effort he put into making that VE case (the case was really weak), but alas, he's dead today, so it ended up not being worth it.

On March 08 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote:

I get fucking frustrated. He calls me out. Other people hop on that shit. I feel the need to explain myself. During the process of explaining myself I get heated cause he's fucking wrong or scum. I know there is a sentiment that you don't have to explain yourself to scum, but I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S SCUM OR NOT...nor do I know that the people who followed up on his "suspicions" are scum or not...so I get mad and rage and try to yell at how dumb he is for even thinking that it could be true.