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IAmRobik
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On March 09 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is a reasonable case on him. His defence does not answer the accusation. His reads are based on nothing. He gets unreasonably mad. Those all are things i don't see a townie do. Rayn I think you're scum this game, but I'll entertain you for a bit. Please make a case on me and I will do my best to refute all the points against me because I'm town and I want the people in this game who are actually town to see that. Thanks. Please don't say things like "his emotional outburst was not something a town does" because if that's your case on me then you have no idea what a town does. I am emotionally invested in this game and I care about the game, so my emotions reflect my emotions in real life. Additionally, you say that I didn't answer the accusations. Please explain which of Dandelion's accusations I didn't refute and I would be happy to go into more detail about why they're wrong and why I'm town. Also, there should be two other scum by your estimation in this game, but you are completely unwilling to give your opinions on anyone else besides me. This is scummy from my perspective since I know I'm town and all your'e doing all game is pushing a mislynch, even though you claim that you and Dandelion are the only ones who are "doing anything on d2 to try to get mafia lynch". | ||
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Robert is mafia Robert is mafia Robert is mafia Robert is mafia The case on him is so strong Robert is mafia Robert is mafia Robert is mafia Robert is mafia He is not doing ANY scumhunting. He is pushing a lynch against a townie. He is 100% pushing a mafia agenda by pushing a mislynch and if you guys end up lynching me, I IMPLORE YOU to lynch him tomorrow. I know you won't because I mean...why would anyone listen to a dead vanilla townie...but like LYNCH RAYN CAUSE HE'LL NEVER GET NIGHT KILLED CAUSE HE'S MAFIA. | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote: I really wonder why DM players like to noob claim. I'm not claiming noob. I'm claiming that TL players don't give a fuck about anyone's opinion but their own and when someone flips town, they don't even bother analyzing the posts of dead players to see how their reads are and if they're congruent with their own. I was the only one who even started to do a reread of Austin. No one even cares to figure out why he was night killed. Like, he and VE are the only two confirmed towns in my eyes, and we know that Austin was NK'd...but no one is willing to try to figure out why? From the first couple pages of his filter that I read, Palmar should be getting a lot of heat. I didn't finish reading Austin's filter because of the bullshit that went down with Dandelion, but like, no one even bothers to do that in TL games and that's bad. | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:08 Dandel Ion wrote: Robik's d2: EWRGIHQWEROFUIH"§$OIFHAWOEIRHQ§$=OG)HQEPOILKWEF OMGUS OMGUS OMGUS QWEROIUFH§O%$ITHER)HGWQLK$FLKJF!"OI§JRP"OP§$IHRGI He's not doing any scumhunting. His vote is on a person he doesn't even call scum anymore because he can't come up with reasons for it. The reason I'm voting you right now is strictly a placeholder. The 3 people I'm most suspicious of are Rayn, Joey and Palmar. Besides my interactions with you, I made a case against Joey and explained why he's a really good lynch for today. I also reread Slam's filter and it swong me 180 degrees from thinking that he's just trolly scum to thinking that he's town. I also started reading Austin's filter and came to the conclusion that Palmar looks bad from it. I may have done other stuff, but I'm not quite sure. I was absolutely enraged yesterday when I was having a battle with you and now that I have a bit of a clearer head, I'm trying to be calmer and more productive. If you'd like me to address any of the points you made against me, I'd be more than happy to go over them again and refute them. If you're town, I beg that you reevaluate your stance on me because I am town. | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:13 justanothertownie wrote: Enough dandel. Robik if you rage at this again I will lynch you. Just ignore the mocking and answer actual points if they are brought up. That was 100% my plan. | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Nightkills speculation is really only speculation and generally there are multiple reasons why someone dies and we never know what it actually is. Who else is scum Robik? I just listed my top 3 people. I suppose all 3 are not together based off of interactions that they had in the game (though this is from my memory of events and not a reread, so it could be a bit fuzzy), but those are the people that have been fairly scummy in the game and I think would either flip mafia or provide us with some good insight (in the case of Joey, I think both) | ||
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Because the Austin death incriminates you | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:31 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, since nobody seems to bother I will summarize the points dandel brought up against you robik (if I am forgetting something someone should point that out). You might feel like you answered them somewhere already - doesn't matter please do so again if you can. - you shat on the VE lynch although it isn't clear that Killing wouldn't have also been a mislynch although you yourself said on day1 that you would want the lynch to be between VE/Killing - you seem to decide someone is scum before making the actual arguments for this to be the case - you called it scummy for dandel to switch to VE and you would also have called it scummy if he stayed on templar. - you call for a lynch on Killing yet your reasoning is basically that it gives us information and nothing else - you don't seem to be interested in finding out more about the alignment of your targets - you are still voting for someone you admitted could be town - you are raging instead of discussing actual points Thanks JAT - you shat on the VE lynch although it isn't clear that Killing wouldn't have also been a mislynch although you yourself said on day1 that you would want the lynch to be between VE/Killing This may have been a bit of hindsight 20/20. I have a lot of experience with Killing and believe that he is not playing his town game. I pointed out several discrepancies in his d1 play. I didn't/don't 100% believe Boone's claim and with her being on VE, I thought that Joey was by far the better lynch. The push away from Joey onto VE was a bit sketchy given that we know that VE is town. This opinion obviously changes if Joey is town -- but I doubt that's the case - you seem to decide someone is scum before making the actual arguments for this to be the case - you called it scummy for dandel to switch to VE and you would also have called it scummy if he stayed on templar. I don't remember exactly what I was thinking when I wrote those things, but I can tell you now why I may have wrote them...well at least the templar part. There was a big push away from Templar yesterday and VE and Killing became the top two lynch candidates. Dandelion was around, so if he kept his vote on a person that wasn't likely to get lynched instead of making a decision at the end, I would have considered that scummy (it's a wasted vote that gives us no information moving forward) --> which reminds me, I don't know if Rayn was around, but his vote definitely ended up on someone that doesn't tell us how he feels about either VE or Killing. - you call for a lynch on Killing yet your reasoning is basically that it gives us information and nothing else Resolving d1 wagons is important as it (at least for me) gives information regardless of what Killing flips as. If you'd like me to go ahead and reiterate my case against Joey, I'll gladly do that again. - you don't seem to be interested in finding out more about the alignment of your targets This is simply not true. I don't know what gives people the impression, but I want to lynch scum. The way that I approach it might not be the way everyone else does it, but in the end, that's the result I want. I want scum dead. - you are still voting for someone you admitted could be town It's just a placeholder because I don't know where I want to go or what would gain traction. I don't think I've made a strong enough case on anyone, but I never do. THat's not my forte. My forte is usually to be able to clear myself and put my thoughts out there. I will speak up as to what my thoughts are, but because of the way that I play, it is a tad difficult to articulate why I think certain people are scummier than others. If you'd like an example of my play, please look into the most recent GSL game, where I started off by randomly clearing people just based off of certain posts they make and general tone and whatnot. - you are raging instead of discussing actual points I may have overreacted but I was soooooo furious yesterday. I was sitting at work and my face was red. Coworkers were asking me if I was ok...that's how mad I was. I had to take a couple ibuprofens because my head started hurting. I am much calmer now and I am trying to play in a more rationale manner. I hope that answers any questions that anyone can have with regards to my play. I hope that you can see the town mindset behind all of my thoughts. If you have any more questions I would be more than happy to address them. | ||
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1) If we have 2 wagons today, I don't think that Palmar should be aside Joey. I think that they more than likely are of the same alignment. If Joey flips scum, then Palmar's late vote on him is super scummy. If Joey flips town, then there's no reason for Palmar to make himself look scummier by flopping from Joey to VE at the very end. 2) If joey flips town, then I think that this looks bad for Rayn. This reason is 100% from my POV, but I know that I'm town and if Joey flips town then the fact of the matter is, Rayn is just pushing 2 town lynches and doesn't really care which one of us gets lynched. 3) I strongly believe that JAT and Oats are town. I think I was the first person, or one of the first people to bring it up, and now people have accepted this as fact. I also think that Slam is town based off of the post that I made when I read through his filter. 4) I am getting really nervous about this Joey lynch. The people that have jumped on him and the people that I think are fairly scummy are aligning. I know I was the first one to bring the "strongest" case against him, which was mentioned by multiple people on d1 (which is funny, cause now people are saying that I haven't done anything all game lol). No matter what he flips, I think that there are definitely scum who are voting him. 5) I'll try to check in off of my phone, but I can't promise to be around or post. I will do my best to keep up though and contribute if I can and lastly ##unvote ##vote Joey | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is you didn't do anything to push the lynch despite bringing up a good point on him. I don't give a fuck. I voted him at the end and anyone that plays with me knows that I'm not very good at pushing lynches. I've even mentioned it this game that my forte is putting out my thoughts and being right and just having people do the pushing for me and me agreeing or disagreeing based off of that. It's a weakness in my game. That doesn't make me mafia. | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote: It has even been posted here... templar/slam/boone. I missed this. Is this what temp posted earlier. I thought that was the QT he was in from yesterday. I got confused by his post so I kinda skipped over it. I'll read that at the restaurant. fuck...i'm super late. bye | ||
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2) This thought crossed my mind, but wouldn't mafia have a QT anyway, so they wouldn't have any reason to kill austin for the sake of having an extra QT... On March 10 2014 09:00 Palmar wrote: ready your tinfoil hat JAT. What if Austin got shot so we wouldn't start randomly lynching into the QT claimed on day 1 as if it was the scumQT and have it sorta work as 2/3 members are scum anyway. 3) Rayn + Dandelion (man, i'm going to hate myself for including you in this questioning): What do you think of me now? | ||
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