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On March 10 2014 08:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


from the D1 QT where JAT convinced me that Dandel is likely town



JAT you still hold true to Dandel being town in light of the Killing flip?

On March 10 2014 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone who thinks i would kill Oats as scum is retarded.

On March 11 2014 03:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
Sickest case in the world: The last time grack even tried to make a post containing an actual contribution was 5 days ago.

On March 11 2014 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then stop posting useless things and read.

On March 10 2014 19:09 Palmar wrote:
Palmar:

So remember how I had a town read on Grack on day 1, that was mostly based on him making a few really good reads (imo at the time). I thought him being right = him being town. Here is his read on Slam:



I totally forgot about this post too, this is where I called Grack out for being useless/trolling. (remember on day 1 I was trying to get people to play the game).



Another little nugget: VE apparently called Grack out:



This next post is the big town-read post. When Grack posted this I felt really sure that he had to be town, there is no reason really for mafia to ever give Oats (knowing how Oats is usually a lynchbait) a townread. You can almost count on Oats to be there to screw up for town in lylo, but Oats actually played a very impressive game and (ironically I am the lynchbait now...) and Grack gave him props for it.

So Grack has thrown out two town-reads on people who are almost certainly town, and at this point he also seemed to like me as town too.



See! I loved that post!



This is a super interesting post from Grack. He gives me/dandel/slam/robik all a pass. We know VE is town now. Rayn is still that one piece of the puzzle I just can't get.

If anyone can explain to me if the part about "I'm inclined to believe that he (robik) would lurk as mafia" is a legitimate read, that would be great. I have no idea why Grack would assume this. But it could be based on past games? assuming robik is a newbie? idk.

To give Grack what he deserves, he was at least trying to poke at the game.
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This is one of few posts where Grack is poking at Rayn, several others regard to rayn's call for a policy lynch on Grack.



Again, to be fair to Grack, he did like me come around on austinmcc when austin started posting.

The timing of this post is very important. Grack who had previously agreed to a Killing lynch changed his mind based on Killing's "remorse" post, if you want to call it that. He then moved over to VE who Grack was also pressuring at the time. This next post is written when I had just made the switch over to Killing and called for everyone to go hammer Killing (something Grack did not do).



Since this Grack hasn't really done anything at all in the game. He argued a bit with Oatsmaster, but his filter is extremely short and he doesn't appear to be really trying to win.

That all being said, he has for the most part explained his pushes (his VE push had reasons, they weren't great but they were there). He did explain why the post by killing made Grack think Killing is town. So there are some points in his favor.

However his filter is _extremely_ short, there is almost no content in it. And here's another post that looks quite bad.



He never followed up on this against me, didn't even bother asking me himself. He just threw that out there but apparently did not care at all about the results this would generate.

He may be lazy and trolling but he may also be scum.

For now I'd say I stick him at the bottom of my town->scum list and see if anyone drops below him before we start lynching

Palmar
Jat
Slam
boone
Grack

I still need to read these other people:

Robik
Dandel
Templar
rayn

On March 11 2014 13:43 Alakaslam wrote:
HEY

actually I have no clue what to say

On March 11 2014 13:49 Alakaslam wrote:

Orralé

On March 11 2014 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Elaborate on this please. Also why is Templar not a good lynch?

On March 11 2014 21:15 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets.

On March 11 2014 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:

How is it more suspicious than to actually push for a VE lynch?

On March 11 2014 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grack you are not allowed to accuse Dandel unless you want to claim cop.

On March 11 2014 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Nevermind. It's not relevant.

One question:
Do you think it's fair to say what templar did. On D1 you were town because you sheeped his (good) case on VE. On D2 you were scum because you used his case to "force a mislynch on a townie". Is this in your opinion a logical re-evaluation on a read based on what actually happened in the game and taking into account templar's actions and voting behavior on D1?

On March 11 2014 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes this is actually true.
But i still don't think Dandel is mafia.

How do you read Robik on D1 based on what you just said about Dandel?

On March 11 2014 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I mean, by your definition (what you said about Dandel), shouldn't you read Robik as mafia because he did not defend VE who was a "terrible lynch"? Or what's different in your opinion in this situation?