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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 05 2014 23:00 GMT
#1361
Palmar what the hell?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 23:00 GMT
#1362
Also, do not expect me to post at night. Won't be happening
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 23:00 GMT
#1363
I'm town sorry i'm terrible. guess i'm dead
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 05 2014 23:00 GMT
#1364
ok
A backwards poet writes inverse.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 05 2014 23:00 GMT
#1365
On March 06 2014 07:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey was _NOT_ making up his reads. Stop it.

To clarify....JOEY'S READS HAVEN'T EVEN CHANGED SINCE HE'S REEVALUATED. READ WHAT HE SAID AND READ HOW HE WAS CONVINCED HE NEEDED TO REREAD AND REEVALUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SAID HE WAS SO WRONG AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS BEFORE.


Austin...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do me a favor and make a quick case against VE (even if you think Joey is more scummy)
I'll save why this is a ridiculous request for later.


If VE flips scum, here's why he's scum:

VE's first burst of real activity is trying to push that idea that Boone isn't magically scum for outing a QT. It serves scum no purpose to out a QT, or to try and draw a claim from the foundation QT, therefore, Boone isn't scum for doing this. BUT ALSO, he notes that scum gets basically nothing out of this. Her doing something and leaving is...rumbly in his tummy, but her outing the QT is not, in and of itself, a scummy thing.

Assorted poking, but not really scumhunting. Robik posts a list, VE says he's town too and should be on Robik's list. Pokes at DI. Tries to separate the two. These are all posts that don't scumhunt, although they DO maybe serve to keep thread legible.

VE thinks Slam has been INTENTIONALLY trying to make himself hard to understand - + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2014 05:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 05:09 austinmcc wrote:
On March 05 2014 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
@austin
Alak is fearless in his trolling, Grack not so fearless. Between the two I'd say Grack has a higher chance of flipping scum based on what's been said, Alak more likely to flip town. I don't think they both scum, but it's possible they both town.
You're of the opinion that they've both just been purely trolling? Nothing's non-trolly and valuable for readin'?

No Alak has been providing limited opinions - I say limited because he's intentionally trying to make himself hard to understand.

Grack has also been providing opinions, but what he's been doing I wouldn't classify as trolling, and that's why I say he's not fearless this game. He quickly faded off the trolling early and got to business, and I don't expect that from a town-aligned Grack.

- but he's cool with that. INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELF HARD TO UNDERSTAND lines up with me more as "a trolly player who rolled mafia TRYING to play his troll game," not "town troll just trolling." Slam does not need to TRY to be a troll. If he's trying, it means he's mafia? Maybe? I dunno.


VE was suspicious of Templar, then feels good and swaps to boone in a SINGLE POST with nothing else. His reason for swapping is super mega mega not good by me.
On March 05 2014 17:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel better about GGTemp from him posting - not so much because I like his targets or his townreads or whatever, but because the way he's defending himself /feels/ genuine. Like, "I wasn't here, now I am, deal wit it". Boone's defense however looks like this:

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 09:33 boonetown wrote:
Okay templar, this is for you...

I have called you out, and have even voted on you (as have a few others). In video mafia, you're a pretty easy read for me which I have already stated, and you have neglected to speak much at all in the thread. I will for now assume you are using the QT, because you just laying low and not talking at all would be super weird for me. I would like for you to at least talk a little in here, so we can get a better read on you.

Tell me your thoughts on the game thus far, and how you feel about the reasons i've stated for you to be scum. You of all people know how I play, so cough it up, do you disagree with my read on you and if so, why?


Note how diplomatic this is. She's supposedly suspicious of Templar too, and look at the bolded statement! Who asks a scumread if they disagree with them ABOUT themselves? Does that even make sense? To anyone? What's he supposed to say there? "Oh well you know, I wasn't convinced before but now I guess you're right I could be scum" No. He's not supposed to say anything but "no" in that situation regardless of his alignment, so why ask it? This whole post reads to me like she knows Temp is town but wants him to townread her even though she has to call him scum based on her previous posting. She's concerned about appearing consistent. It's scummy, and frankly I could lynch boone today.

##Unvote
##Vote: boonetown


I'll be back tomorrow to see if she posts anything valuable to me, but right now I think she's a good lynch.
Boone is asking a scum suspect if he agrees with her scumread on him.

Therefore she is mafia.

WAT? (1) She's done more than just that this game. (2) That's a ridiculous thing to call someone scum for (imo). (3) Seriously, there are 12 non-VEs in this game and his vote goes on someone for asking their scumread if that person agrees with the scumread.

This post, again, with a changed read and vote, is similarly...kinda weak
On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.

That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.

##Unvote
##Vote: Killing
Boone is a hard read on forum mafia [citation needed]. I'm willing to give her more time to prove to me that she's out of her medium.

Boone was just scummy for doing an explicit thing --> asking a scumread about the correctness of the read. Now she's just hard to read, maybe out of her medium, unvote.

THIS UNVOTE IS SMELLY. THE VOTE IS SOMEWHAT SMELLY BUT JUST. He never explains his unvote of boone further, despite me asking him. Seriously, he thinks she did a scummy thing. It doesn't matter if she comes from voice mafia or face mafia or toe mafia or is actually a popsicle. She did a scummy thing. Suddenly that doesn't matter.


When asked about Boone's medic claim, he missed it. Or "missed it." This means he unvoted because of the reasons he gave (assuming truthfulness on missing medic), which again, are so bahd. Everyone else swapped off boone because of x, he swaps because of y, and y is ... not a thing I like.



THERE'S NOT A PARTICULARLY COHERENT CASE AGAINST VE BUT I THREW THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE I LIKE SILLY CHALLENGES SO MUCH

WHY IS VE MAFIA?

(1) HE'S NOT REALLY HUNTING SCUM. HE'S ACTIVE ABOUT BOONE POSTING ABOUT QT, ROBIK/DI FIGHTING, BLAH BLAH, BUT HE'S NEVER REALLY LEADING THE PACK WITH A CURIOUS SCUMREAD.

(2) HE, IN FACT, HAS NO CURIOUS SCUMREADS. ALL HIS DISCUSSION TOPICS ARE SAFE AND SUSPICIOUS AND HE CAN JUST CHAT ABOUT THEM.

(3) HE SWAPS HIS VOTES FOR REASONS I DON'T LIKE, AND THE JUSTIFICATIONS HE GIVES FOR HIS SWAPS (BOONE IS HARD TO READ ON FORUM MAFIA) RING HOLLOW.

Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 05 2014 23:01 GMT
#1366
Deadline is reached, stop posting
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 23:01 GMT
#1367
Priority of scum

VE
Dandel
Rayn


I'm ok with the Killing lynch though, it's probably 4th
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 23:03 GMT
#1368
On March 06 2014 07:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
What now palmar?


Hammer Killing pls.

I'd rather deal with VE later in the game than that dude.

I'm amazed boone isn't getting lynched. She should be an auto-lynch.



What the fuck is your deal? I am in no way shape or form an auto lynch. Either you haven't bothered to read what I have said because you're scum, you don't care about winning this game because you're subborn or you're not good at this. I know you're good at this because I have a lot of people that talked you up before I took this on.

I have said this countless time, in order to be good at mafia you need to have a willingness to adapt, listen, observe, and be wrong.

Figure out which part of that you need to encounter in the next part of this game, or this town will lose.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 23:03 GMT
#1369
shh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 23:08:27
March 05 2014 23:07 GMT
#1370
Final Vote Count!


VisceraEyes (6): Grackaroni, GGTeMpLaR, boonetown, Killing, Palmar, Dandel Ion, Palmar, Grackaroni, Palmar, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion
Killing (5): Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, justanothertownie, IAmRobik, Palmar, Grackaroni, GGTeMpLaR, Dandel Ion
GGTeMpLaR (1): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, Killing, Alakaslam, boonetown, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion: (0): IAmRobik
austinmcc (1): Alakaslam, boonetown
boonetown (0): Palmar, VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion, GGTeMpLaR, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam
raynpelikoneet (0): GGTeMpLaR
Rayn (0): GGTeMpLaR

VisceraEyes has been lynched. Stand by for the night post, no talking. Remember that nights are silent.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 05 2014 23:13 GMT
#1371
Night 1

[image loading]


What of the Time Vault? People speak of divination and destiny, but these people know nothing of psychohistory and merely use the word to absolve themselves of their apathy. I say no, we must forge our own paths. If mathematical prophecy is indeed a potent force, surely it helps those who help themselves.

~blazinghand, known dissenter


Thirteen representatives of Foundation were sent across the galaxy.

Nine were sent to the Four Kingdoms, the warlike territories which neighbored Terminus and therefore posed the most immediate threat to Foundation’s existence and prosperity. Three went to Anacreon and groups of two went to the other three states.

Two were sent to Helicon in a desperate and somewhat romantic attempt to explore Hari Seldon’s home planet, with the hope that their founder had hidden vital information somewhere on the world.

The remaining two were sent to Trantor to discover what remained of the fabled Streeling University.

After a few short months, Foundation lost contact with VisceraEyes. When contact was restored, VisceraEyes was unable to account for his whereabouts during the time he was off the radar.


VisceraEyes is accused of treason and has been ordered to return to Terminus to face trial by his peers.

“VisceraEyes, you are accused of conspiring against Foundation with our enemies in Anacreon. How do you plead?”

“Not guilty. Everything I have done I have done for Foundation. I….. I wish I could explain.”

The council’s verdict…….. VisceraEyes is guilty and is sentenced to execution!


VisceraEyes has been atomized!

+ Show Spoiler [flip + role pm] +
You are a Foundationer. All you have is your vote.


+ Show Spoiler [vote count] +
Final Vote Count!


VisceraEyes (6): Grackaroni, GGTeMpLaR, boonetown, Killing, Palmar, Dandel Ion, Palmar, Grackaroni, Palmar, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion
Killing (5): Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, justanothertownie, IAmRobik, Palmar, Grackaroni, GGTeMpLaR, Dandel Ion
GGTeMpLaR (1): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, Killing, Alakaslam, boonetown, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion: (0): IAmRobik
austinmcc (1): Alakaslam, boonetown
boonetown (0): Palmar, VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion, GGTeMpLaR, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam
raynpelikoneet (0): GGTeMpLaR
Rayn (0): GGTeMpLaR

VisceraEyes has been lynched



It is Night 1. Nights are silent so don't post anything in the thread until D2. Night 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

PM me for obs.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 07:09:28
March 05 2014 23:13 GMT
#1372
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 05 2014 23:14 GMT
#1373
BISH PLEASE DOUBT ME MOAR
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 23:16 GMT
#1374
The thing about silent nights is that they are silent
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2014 19:31 GMT
#1375
N1 ends (and night actions are due) in
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2014 23:00 GMT
#1376
HIJOLE YOU FOOLS

why on CHUPAZI did you lynch VE?!?!

I voted Austinmcc because
1: I SWEAR HE IS SUM WITH TUNNEL OF THUU!
2: I WAS GONE! I HAD PHONE CALLS COME UP AND THEN THIS SIIILENT NIIIGHT, HOOOOOLLY NIIIGHT, ALLL IS C- I CANT STAND IT I TELL YOU! THIS IS DRIVING ME SANE!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2014 23:01 GMT
#1377
Day 2

[image loading]


Secrets are curious things. They shape the course of our lives without our knowing, indeed they can do much more than that. The smallest of secrets can have unfathomable effects on human history….how bizarre is it that we must be subject to the unknowable machinations of those that came before us?

~Promethelax, disillusioned Priest of Scientism


austinmcc has died while searching Helicon for the lost art of Heliconian Twisting.

+ Show Spoiler [flip + role pm] +
You are a Foundationer. All you have is your vote.



Please stand by…...

Keep clear of the Time Vault

Please stand by…...

Incoming message from Hari Seldon

Please stand by…...


...



It is now Day 2. Votes go in the voting thread. Day 2 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)!

PM me for obs.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:02 GMT
#1378
wow, that was a bad night kill. Or good, depending on where you look from.

##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
My work here is done.
table for two on a tv tray
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 06 2014 23:03 GMT
#1379
gg folks.

GO TOWN
Fe fi fo fum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2014 23:03 GMT
#1380
HIJOLE jumped the gun

Well I was wrong anyway
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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