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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 17:51 GMT
#981
Okay so templar made a case on me that was really bad and then he gave three town reads. I think that qualifies as not doing anything useful? I would lynch Killing for his posts but i have a hard time believing he went all out on me like that as mafia.
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boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 17:55 GMT
#982
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 17:55 GMT
#983
Also the post where he stated his reads was full of contradictions and stuff that's not alignment indicative, i'll make a post about it, Oats caught some already earlier.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:58 GMT
#984
Im gonna make a case soon, but thoughts on Killing?
No gg, No skill.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 05 2014 17:59 GMT
#985
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote:
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?

Complains about deflecting off austin

Complains about too much talking about austin


I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 17:59 GMT
#986
dandel, has your read on rob changed at all?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
March 05 2014 18:00 GMT
#987
On March 06 2014 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 01:45 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn,

if you're town calling me maf, you're going to be very embarrassed at the end of the game. I'm posting openly and freely (although to be fair a tiny bit less than last game) regarding all of my opinions. I think Killing COULD be mafia, but setting up a situation where we are mafia together is pretty scummy (cause, like, I'm town, and like whatnot).

What he just said is highly unlike to be an individual thought and i have only "shat on players" when i called your smiley post dumb and templar's post bad (because they were bad).

Let's be honest here - you shit on players all the time. Doesn't make you scum though.
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot

Dunno why I felt the need to quote this.
On March 06 2014 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also where the fuck is VE?

Let's summon this guy.

We are definitely not lynching boone today. Dandel neither. Austin I could be convinced maybe.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 18:01 GMT
#988
On March 06 2014 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote:
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?

Complains about deflecting off austin

Complains about too much talking about austin


I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.



People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 05 2014 18:01 GMT
#989
On March 06 2014 02:59 boonetown wrote:
dandel, has your read on rob changed at all?

from when?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 05 2014 18:06 GMT
#990
On March 06 2014 03:01 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote:
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?

Complains about deflecting off austin

Complains about too much talking about austin


I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.



People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.

I would only it really genuinely doesn't make any sense what you're saying and even if it did, there's nothing I could do about it.

dunno what you're trying to do here.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 05 2014 18:08 GMT
#991
On March 06 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
staph! both of you Grack and Oats. Grack why VE, are you being srs?

Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda.

VE is a good lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 05 2014 18:09 GMT
#992
He's jumped hard on these small things such as Templar's first line in the QT and I think it's scummy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
March 05 2014 18:09 GMT
#993
On March 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
staph! both of you Grack and Oats. Grack why VE, are you being srs?

Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda.

VE is a good lynch.

This post. It isn't bad.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 05 2014 18:10 GMT
#994
On March 06 2014 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
staph! both of you Grack and Oats. Grack why VE, are you being srs?

Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda.

VE is a good lynch.

This post. It isn't bad.

all my posts are great babe.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:10 GMT
#995
Explain pls Grack.
No gg, No skill.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 18:12 GMT
#996
On March 06 2014 03:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:01 boonetown wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote:
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?

Complains about deflecting off austin

Complains about too much talking about austin


I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.



People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.

I would only it really genuinely doesn't make any sense what you're saying and even if it did, there's nothing I could do about it.

dunno what you're trying to do here.



I am trying to figure out your alignment. If you want me to see you as town, stop being an asshole and show me youre town. All I have seen in your filter is you trolling or being rude to people for the most part. There are less than a handful of posts from you that I could see you even trying to play the game, but you're still trolling in them.


So, how about you give me your town and mafia lists. Please and thank you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
March 05 2014 18:15 GMT
#997
On March 06 2014 03:12 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 06 2014 03:01 boonetown wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote:
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?

Complains about deflecting off austin

Complains about too much talking about austin


I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.



People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.

I would only it really genuinely doesn't make any sense what you're saying and even if it did, there's nothing I could do about it.

dunno what you're trying to do here.



I am trying to figure out your alignment. If you want me to see you as town, stop being an asshole and show me youre town. All I have seen in your filter is you trolling or being rude to people for the most part. There are less than a handful of posts from you that I could see you even trying to play the game, but you're still trolling in them.


So, how about you give me your town and mafia lists. Please and thank you.

While it would be really nice if Dandel followed your request - please direct your attention to other players. You won't get Dandel lynched today.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 18:16 GMT
#998
This post. For starters he has five scumreads in a game where there is three mafia.
I'll break the post in parts:
On March 05 2014 14:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2014 13:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GGTeMpLaR called you fucking scum and town in the same post and gave two easy other reads with 10010 words and some fancy pictures..


You're not even reading clearly.

I was explaining why I had initially voted for him and then stopped voting for him. I clearly concluded I had a light town read on him.

go reread my post, which isn't even that big - it's 50% oversized pictures

So who is mafia? I don't care about your townreads on DM people because it's the easiest thing you can write an essay about. I don't care why you had a scumread on Slam and why you did change your mind.

You basically wrote a big post about something that says very little.


People I'm currently suspicious of/things that struck me as scummy:

Boone - For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.

Some other potential candidates depending on how the day plays out -

Sheeping thread sentiment, not necessarily scummy but nothing new to see here.

VE - Early on I thought things like this were weird:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=9#171 lot of fluff responding to someone else's question has me a little curious about him early on. Later on his reason for voting me felt forced and weak - very scummy in my eyes.

Ehh.. this is pretty much OMGUS and nothing more.

Palmar
Lots of fluff posts that _look_ pro-town on the surface without actually contributing to finding scum. It's a lot of asking people to contribute to find scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=12#240
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#242
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#244
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#245
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#247
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#256 (calls him town after a bunch of people already make the read, convenient that you give him that softball and then just agree with him anyways)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#258 (another useless question asked by you that he answers with a lot of fluff that doesn't actually contribute towards finding scum)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#260 (not from palmer but another useless question from you. his response is another fluff post but it was a fluff question to begin with. where you went with it is just fluff)

Killing sort of pointed similar thoughts in one of his posts, which is why I townread him more (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=17#336)

Asking people to contribute to find scum is a way of finding scum, and at worst is a null tell and not scummy. He also brings up the me/Palmar interaction and the conclusion is hilarious. Even if asking "useless questions that do not move town forward" was what Palmar was doing in those quotes it does not make him mafia because he has other posts aswell, and templar is not telling what the mafia agenda here is (also see the read on me for that). [/quote]

rayn

Your questioning of Palmar was pretty scummy and you not reading my post properly is a little scummy as well, but I somewhat understand the criticism in your current post. I still don't like the early bit, or your fucking vote on me like I'm the best lynch.

Another OMGUS + a read that i am scummy because i am questioning his scumread... w00t??

Dandelion
The dumb argument he had with JAT around page 15 and Robik later on felt like mafia just filling the thread arguing useless stuff with stubborn town.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=337&topic_id=444554
Not even accusing him, just lightly throwing suspicion on him. Can't remember if someone else pointed it out or not.

I know he's been called a trolly player but this game it's more like a mafia spreading chaos that fills up the thread with confusion and misdirection.

Another instance where he takes a post or two that may or may not have anything to do with the game and ignores the rest of Dandel's posts. EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS MADE A TROLLY POST IN THIS GAME! Someone joking or making a trolly post(s) does not make them mafia. The argument with JAT was not dumb, or if it was it's not proven here why, and why dumb =/= scum??


TLDR;
- Too many scumreads in the first place makes no sense, why would a townie have more scumreads than there are mafia, seems like scum saying "i can lynch half of the people in game so i can change my mind more than just between three people"
- Bad reasoning for scumreads, doesn't point out why something is scummy, it's "dumb" or "bad".
- Contradicting reads, people who are scum call out other scum and again he does not explain how this is more likely to be scum/scum interaction
- All the stuff that's been questioned in this post by me & Oats has basically been retracted by GGTeMpLaR so it in itself proves this is really bad. He is not bad as he himself proved (by quoting the LXIV game when questioned by Oats) -> a lot of misrepresentations that have been pointed out.

That's why ggtemplar is mafia. lynch.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 05 2014 18:17 GMT
#999
On March 06 2014 03:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Explain pls Grack.

Normally if you don't really care too much about a game as town you aren't anxious to push a lynch on to somebody for having a scum mindset such as GGtemplar's "you guys are all scum" (which somehow translates to, "I think there is scum in this qt because I AM the scum in this qt"

I think that is pure bullshit and I think if VE was town and disinterested he would be more willing to just sheep Palmar or some other vet rather than push that lynch.

I think his Boonetown observation looked decent but now I'm feeling that he was probably wrong on Boonetown so I guess that's just unfortunate for him.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 05 2014 18:19 GMT
#1000
On March 06 2014 03:12 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 06 2014 03:01 boonetown wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote:
Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?

Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.

@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?

Complains about deflecting off austin

Complains about too much talking about austin


I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.



People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.

I would only it really genuinely doesn't make any sense what you're saying and even if it did, there's nothing I could do about it.

dunno what you're trying to do here.



I am trying to figure out your alignment. If you want me to see you as town, stop being an asshole and show me youre town. All I have seen in your filter is you trolling or being rude to people for the most part. There are less than a handful of posts from you that I could see you even trying to play the game, but you're still trolling in them.


So, how about you give me your town and mafia lists. Please and thank you.

You are aware that lists are literally the easiest shit in the history of mafia to fake, yes?

But okay maybe you'll stop being salty if I make one. Or at least reasonable. I'm not asking for much.

Not the day1 lynch:
Me
Palmar
rayn*
grack
Oats
JAT
The medic claim

Would lynch day1:
Killing
Alakaslam
Robik*
austin*
ggtemplar*



*mite be scum
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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