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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 22:56 GMT
#1349
On March 06 2014 07:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm town. You're wrong.

I'll believe it when I see it.

For the record, since nights are silence, if you're not lynched I'm so shooting you dead.
Or maybe Robik.
idc you're both scum it shouldn't matter too much.


that's ok if you're vig and shoot me I'll just laugh at you for being bad
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 23:01 GMT
#1367
Priority of scum

VE
Dandel
Rayn


I'm ok with the Killing lynch though, it's probably 4th
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:39 GMT
#1475
On March 07 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:07 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, if you believe Killing is ... curious/mafia, and my case or posts on him is/are good, then why vote DI, who is not getting lynched today?

Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah)

Well, do you care about winning?

I do. Very much so. Will vote how I feel is right. Want more information before I decide between VE/Joey.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE.


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey was _NOT_ making up his reads. Stop it.

To clarify....JOEY'S READS HAVEN'T EVEN CHANGED SINCE HE'S REEVALUATED. READ WHAT HE SAID AND READ HOW HE WAS CONVINCED HE NEEDED TO REREAD AND REEVALUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SAID HE WAS SO WRONG AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS BEFORE.


Austin...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do me a favor and make a quick case against VE (even if you think Joey is more scummy)

All this doesn't really line up with "VE was a terrible lynch and Killing so good lynch!"


see, I actually like you when you're not voting me over dumb shit. anyways,

I'll be the first to say I'm genuinely shocked VE flipped town but I guess he was really busy on at the end of the day or something because he didn't really do anything to deter his lynch.

I talked some in the QT topic at night with JAT and he's a town read right now. I don't really put much faith in a world where both he and Dandel are mafia together (mostly cause their stupid argument d1) and the points he brought up for why I should interpret Dandel as town in the QT really made a lot of sense to me, so if he's mafia defending town here with good logic for no reason, then he's got me fooled - for now. If someone thinks I'm reading too much into our QT convo then you can try to convince me otherwise, but right now I townread both JAT and Dandel[/green] based on our QT convo.

Boone's (VE's) case on me (regarding the QT) is horrible and no different than when VE made it to begin with. I refuted it before, VE never said anything about it, then grack brought up the same refutation and VE still never said anything about it. Now Boone is bringing it back up again and STILL hasn't mentioned the refutation originally made by myself, then brought up again by Grack (who she null reads now - maybe significant, maybe not).

I was literally the first to say I play forum/video mafia differently before so idk why she's bringing that up, and now she's going back to it again and accusing me of "playing up paranoia to get townread by DM players". I haven't even done anything paranoid this game.

Her point against Palmer is odd because

On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm also willing to kill Palmar for not knowing for a fact that I'm town at this point. Players like Grack/Oats are like..meh. But Palmar should know.


I want to believe this is true so much. I had Palmar down as a scum read but he seemed to "i dont care about this anymore, goodbye" toward the end, that it worried me he was just a pissed off towny. Can anyone explain to me if he should have been reading VE as town this game or not, do they typically have good reads on each other? Furthermore, does Palmar usually refuse to play the game when he's frustrated?


mafia tend to ask more questions than they answer.

That's what Boone is doing here, casting light suspicion on Palmar. She's not expressing hard interest in lynching him today as she's already saying it's between myself/killing, so why cast this vague suspicion on Palmar? Her accusation is mostly that he is trying to policy lynch people / being BM.

also, more importantly, how am I the first person to bring up boone not dying after she hardclaimed medic? someone explain this to me.

I feel dumb for townreading Grack d1. I loved his point that he made against VE because I made the same point. because I made the same point. So yes I liked him siding with me against VE, but it was literally a sheep read and now with VE flipping town, it looks even worse, especially when he pushed so hard on VE.

Killing's post here is useless - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444554-foundation-mafia?page=72#1434
I don't know why a vigi didn't shoot him, at the very least, to get information from the votes, since he literally had 0 content at the end of the day anyways because he scrapped it all.

Robik feels like he's forcing the tunnel BM out now, I revoke my townread on him.

tl;dr

Dandelion
JAT


Kinda like Palmar/Slam still

Like Boone/Killing/Robik a lot less, there's probably at least one mafia in them but I don't know who it is yet.

Oats isn't even in the game. a lot of people liked him day1 but I didn't like how he kept straw manning my points because he's bad at reading

Grack - like grack a lot less. he did nothing except sheep my read against VE and used it to force a misslynch

still don't like Rayn. He's not even trying to argue I'm scum anymore he just linked two filters and said "if you read these templar is mafia"

I encourage everyone to read them and determine for yourself that Rayn is being bad or mafia

If I had a hammer right now I would bop Rayn like a fucking goomba.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:42 GMT
#1477
regarding the three DM players, why it's hard for me is they've all replicated their video meta pretty well, but they've all done things I don't like (or in Killing's case hasn't done anything at all)
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:45 GMT
#1479
On March 07 2014 10:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently video mafia players just OMGUS people.


yep I totally OMGUS'd slam the entire game
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:49 GMT
#1481
On March 07 2014 10:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like this point the most:
Show nested quote +
I feel dumb for townreading Grack d1. I loved his point that he made against VE because I made the same point. So yes I liked him siding with me against VE, but it was literally a sheep read and now with VE flipping town, it looks even worse, especially when he pushed so hard on VE.

"I thought Grackaroni said something good but now that he was wrong it was not good but scummy instead. I did the same thing but me totes town of course".

Logic!


this is why you're mafia - you've straw manned me the entire game. idk if it's a language barrier thing but you're probably just mafia

The thing is he just sheeped it off of me and used it to propel forward a VE misslynch.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:51 GMT
#1482
That was literally his main reason for starting to tunnel onto VE.

I'm waiting for him to do something because I've got literally nothing on him now except that he sheeped my reason/read to propel forward a misslynch.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:56 GMT
#1483
Also slam what about my post made you unvote me?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:05 GMT
#1486
On March 07 2014 10:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can't believe i need to tell you how a mafia game works.

As town you either make your own arguments why someone is mafia or pick the good arguments other people make and agree with them and disagree with bad arguments. What you are suggesting here is that you made an argument and Grackaroni agreed with it.

Grackaroni used your argument to push a lynch on VE (something you failed to do yourself).

Now that your argument was in fact wrong, because VE was town,

that suddenly makes Grackaroni more likely to be mafia.

That can't possibly be true if you are town because

being wrong does not make anyone mafia.

You are basically arguing that your argument was bad in the first place

, because otherwise Grackaroni would have been following a good argument.

In fact that makes you mafia.
/get dunked kid


Yes Grack sheeped it to push a misslynch on VE.

Yes it makes him more likely to be mafia.

You're right being wrong doesn't make you mafia

My argument wasn't bad, his argument was bad. I refuted it. He never responded.

All the useless//irrelevant filler striked out leaves your argument making literally no fucking sense. You are scum who makes no fucking sense. If you were town you wouldn't be this retarded.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:06 GMT
#1488
On March 07 2014 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stop with your bullshit staw man shit already. The only thing you are able to do as mafia is discrediting other people for no good reasons as you do in this game. That's something that should be quite clear for anyone who reads the Really Small mafia game filter of yours.


You just described yourself. Everyone should read the filters you linked because nothing about them makes me mafia. Your arguments suck.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:07 GMT
#1490
##Vote: Rayn
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:30 GMT
#1495
On March 07 2014 11:24 boonetown wrote:
Templar, I am telling you my claim is real and I have no idea why I am alive unless they want to meta this. Furthermore, where did I use VE talking about you and the QT as a case against you? In fact, where have I called you mafia at all? All i'm saying is that I need to adjust the way I read you because I wasn't expecting your video/forum games to be this different, or getting a read on you to be so hard.

Yes I think you are being paranoid, and the shit you did at the beginning with the votes was hella weird. I think that's a pretty general consensus tho.


On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR


Because there isn't support for the RNG.

I was torn between voting for GGTemp and voting for boone here, but boone stroked the ego in saying that she wanted to play with me, so GGTemp gets the vote. GGTemplar has been more useless than me this game, and I haven't even been here playing it. Not that GGTemp has been here, but he's at the very least pretended to have opinions on people. So far those opinions have consisted of a scumread on Alak (which his posts show no indication of releasing, barring an unvote) and a townread on his DM peeps (which his posts give no explanation for). He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.

Answer for Joey: I've been inactive because I was playing Video Mafia yesterday. Lurking isn't even accurate because until this morning, I hadn't even really read the thread.


The bolded part at first, felt to me like he was trying to look for something in templar to show us templar was mafia, now that i know VE is town, this is way more valid of a point.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote:
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?


Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.

VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play.

I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie.


I am going to take what he says about Templar more highly than my own read on him at this point. I think templar probably plays his forum mafia and video mafia very different and knowing that myself, killing and robik are in this game, he might play up his paranoia to get us to read him as town. If that's the case, screw you templar.

After he wrote this, Templar did his big ol' thread of pictures and reads on the DM people. IMO, if templar is mafia, the other DM people are likely all town. Why do I say this? If templar was mafia with someone from DM he wouldn't go out of his way to only read us as a priority over other players with little about anyone else, because we are well aware that he's played forum mafia before. He should be able to help us with reading a few of the TL players.



Bold answers the bold. Then later on in the same post you said "this is about killing vs templar at this point" with regards to calling me mafia. Maybe you didn't mean that but it sure as hell looked like you meant "killing vs templar as the lynch for today"

Can you cite any example of how I have been paranoid this game?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:37 GMT
#1499
Rob, did JAT's thoughts in the QT change your read at all of Dandelion?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:59 GMT
#1506
On March 07 2014 11:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 11:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Rob, did JAT's thoughts in the QT change your read at all of Dandelion?

Please link me. I must have missed it


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444554-foundation-mafia?page=72#1428
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 04:33 GMT
#1509
VE stopped being suspicious of me a while back
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:20 GMT
#1679
On March 07 2014 23:29 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm about to lose my shit.

Dandelion. I hope you're mafia, because this agenda you're pushing is the furthest thing from pro-town. People called me out for tunneling and many people have you as town, so I'm avoiding you at all costs, but seriously if you're town, you have to reevaluate how you play the game, cause you have NO FUCKING CLUE what you're doing.


On March 07 2014 23:34 IAmRobik wrote:
All the deflection away from Joey is fucking stupid and you people need to get your heads out of your asses. I don't even give a fuck if he's town or mafia. We had two wagons yesterday. I was bullshitting about being a vigi, but if there is a vigi, they should have shot the shit out of him last night so that we could have had more information regarding the two wagons we had.

At this point, the Joey lynch should just be fucking standard. It provides us with the most information. Anyone who says different is not playing logically....but that makes sense for this game since it's filled with several players who troll, get mislynched, get carried by their team (whichever team they're on) and think they're fucking good


On March 07 2014 23:36 IAmRobik wrote:
on that note. I've cast my vote. If you want to mislynch me and put yourself in a worse position than you're in now, go for it. The amusement I'm getting from this game is non-existent. I might check in every once in a while to laugh at anyone that follows Dandelion


On March 07 2014 23:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you're only not tunneling me because people would call you out on it

That speaks volumes about your priorities.

I MADE MY CASE ON YOU. YOU CALLED IT SHIT.

YOUR CASE ON ME IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BONKERS NONSENSICAL AND I CANNOT SEE IT COMING FROM AN INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEING UNLESS YOU'RE SCUM TRYING TO PICK AT THE SMALLEST DETAILS. YOU SAID THAT I WAS PUSHING FOR ANOTHER "MISLYNCH IN KILLING". THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THAT YOU SWITCHED YOUR VOTE AT THE FUCKING LAST SECOND AND ACTUALLY GOT SOMEONE MISLYNCHED. HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME MORE SCUM THAN YOU WHO VOTED FOR SOMEONE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THEM ALL FUCKING DAY, AS OPPOSED TO ME VOTING FOR JOEY WHO I POINTED OUT AS BEING SCUMMY FOR MUCH OF DAY 1. GO BACK TO TYPING GIBBERISH. IT'S MORE USEFUL AND MAKES MORE SENSE THAN WHEN YOU TYPE IN ENGLISH.


So the only actual content in all of those in response to Dandel's case is that you think we should lynch Joey for information. The rest is fluff/bm/yelling.

I think it's very possible you've been overacting this game for DM people to townread you.

On March 08 2014 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2014 01:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 08 2014 01:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
Same goes for you, but in contrast to you I'm town and I know I still have to read them anyway.

The only thing you said in response was NO NO NO NO NO BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT and that's literally the extent of it.
I don't know which hole you climbed out of where that counts as super-great logic. But then again, you're just scum that doesn't know how else to "defend" himself.

ok cool

THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN. TODAY IS THE DAY WHERE YOU LYNCH BETWEEN ME AND DANDELION. I HONESTLY DON'T CARE HOW THE VOTING GOES. I'D RATHER HE DIE THAN ME CAUSE I KNOW I'M TOWN, BUT IF I DIE AND DON'T HAVE TO READ ANOTHER ONE OF HIS FUCKING POSTS I'LL BE JUST AS THRILLED. MAKE YOUR DECISION.





I tried to avoid this situation all of yesterday, but it has become apparent to me that this is impossible. So let's do it. If dandelion is town, he's effectively ruined the game.

##unvote
##vote dandelion

You don't get to decide that friend.


that's fine. that's what's i'm willing to do each and every day to fulfill my participation quota. i don't give a fuck if it's bm. i think that that's the best course of action to help town win. every day is gonna be the same bullshit with both of us in this game. get rid of one of us and town has a better shot to win, thus i'm actively trying to fulfill my win condition, no matter if he's town or scum. he's gotten under my skin so much that i'm UNWILLING to reread another fucking thing. Like...I was rereading austin for his reads so that maybe we can garner something from them...but like. that's it. I'm past my final straw.


So you can't even blame anyone else if you get 'misslynched' at this point. You've stopped playing the game and 80% of your posts are BM fluff/threats/insults.

If this were video mafia, maybe I could get a town read on you for acting like this because it's not something you can fake as mafia on cam, but it's just way too easy for you to fake here and thinking you can rely on it as if I should townread you from it isn't gonna fly.

On March 08 2014 02:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 05:17 Killing wrote:
On February 28 2014 05:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
On February 28 2014 04:15 Killing wrote:
/in


On February 28 2014 03:33 Forenzik wrote:
So when does it start?


Have either of you played mafia before?


I've played 400+ games of epic mafia and 100+ games of video mafia but this will be my first forum game.



Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 02:24 Killing wrote:
Whenever someone says, "Oh well I'll do X" in text mafia. I insta hammer that shit. It's such flipty floppy garbage where scum is completely fine with either route because they either don't want to look bad or both outcomes are good for town.


OH LOOK. ANOTHER BLATANT CONTRADICTION FROM JOEY, unless he considers the 5 words that are said in EM as "text mafia" LOLOLOL


It's like you're grasping for straws here. I don't see any planet where a contradiction like this makes someone scum, it's just like picking at semantics.

On March 08 2014 03:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are wasting everyone's time with your personal vendetta with Dandel. Clearly what you have put up so far is not conclusive enough to convince everyone so either make a new case with new info or go push someone else.

I'VE BEEN PUSHING PEOPLE THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO FUCKING VOTE DANDELION TODAY. HE'S PROLLY JUST A BAD PLAYER WHO RANDED TOWN. LIKE WTF ARE YOU EVEN SAYING. I want to lynch Joey today. I think Joey is mafia. I've been saying this for 2 days now. It's the first thing I said. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO AVOID DANDELION...but like he's too fucking ASEFNOASDIFNASODFINASDOIFNASD;FNI!!!!! he's pushing my fucking buttons cause he has nothing better to do with his fucking life than come into games and purposefully troll and annoy and irritate. THAT is why I want one of us dead. Like honestly, if I get mislynched this game, I won't even give 2 shits cause I'm THAT annoyed with this game.




On March 08 2014 04:37 IAmRobik wrote:
1) VisceraEyes - dead town
2) Killing - prolly maf
3) Alakaslam - unsure...leaning scummy because of the early troll game
4) Palmar - leaning scummy
5) boonetown - medic or scum
6) Dandel Ion - prolly a town who is so blatantly misguided it hurts
7) raynpelikoneet - lean scum
8) Grackaroni - haven't paid any attention to him...would reread
9) IAmRobik - 100% unequivocally town. This read is 100% right. I assure you. If you think otherwise you're wrong
10) austinmcc - dead town
11) justanothertownie - one of my top town
12) Oatsmaster - another one of my top town
13) GGTeMpLaR - leaning town, but i really need to reread his long posts again. There is a lot of information in there to process


If you're town and you think Dandel is probably town stop fucking voting him and vote for someone you think is scum.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#1683
On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum.


On March 04 2014 08:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 07:45 Palmar wrote:
Hi guys I'm basically confirmed town by now so you should totally just follow my lead.

I livve Tto sservee!!?!

this Palmar!



How come you never brought this up?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#1691
Like seriously though, I was rethinking it over last night as to why I liked Slam so much as town and I couldn't remember. Ever since his early pressure on boone, slam hasn't done anything but troll.

Ton of people townread him because he called out "textbook scum" (which was like the easiest read in the world at the time to make). It sort of just snowballed to a general feeling that "slam is town".

Slam do something.
GGTeMpLaR
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United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:42 GMT
#1694
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United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:51 GMT
#1697
Everyone either town-read slam or avoided him.
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