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But VE is right. There is no town motivation for what he wrote.
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How is the name of your qt austin?
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On March 05 2014 03:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:05 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey JAT, do you agree with what VE is saying about his QT talks with GGtemp?
I see where he is coming from - GGTemplar posted something really weird in there. I am way less sure if it really makes him mafia though. Can you clarify as GG has a very high chance of getting lynched. He basically refused to talk to us claiming we were both scum.
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On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote: How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here?
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On March 05 2014 03:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I want to know what makes Boone "literally guaranteed" to flip scum Dandel. Explain it to me like you think I'm a complete idiot. Shouldn't be hard. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 08:53 thrawn2112 wrote: [At the start of each Day, 3 randomly selected players will be invited to the Foundation quicktopic mason group [NOTE THE LACK OF "-s" AFTER GROUP]. At the start of the next day, 3 randomly selected players will join a new Foundation group and the old Foundation quicktopic will be locked. Thing is: If I am not mistaken noone of boone and austin claimed it was the foundation quicktopic. Maybe it is a different one. Does your qt end N1 austin?
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On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote: There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote: How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not?
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On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote: There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote: How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op?
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On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote: There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote: How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP. Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE.
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On March 05 2014 03:28 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote: There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote: How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP. Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE. Then you already have your answer. We're not the foundation QT. Ok. So you are not only masoned for this cycle?
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On March 05 2014 03:28 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:28 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote: There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote: [quote]Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP. Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE. Then you already have your answer. We're not the foundation QT. Ok. So you are not only masoned for this cycle? Actually screw that. If you don't wanna tell then don't.
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On March 05 2014 03:28 boonetown wrote:@NAT - My read on alakaslam has developed over the course of the entire thread. Rereading made me more confident in what I was writing though. I'm not trying to play myself down, I'm just trying to be open and honest about the way I feel the game is going and my own personal part in this game. @Dandel - I wasn't worried I was going to look like a sheep, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I said people are taking what I say out of context. I said that my first post was making it clear that I wasn't going to bandwagon. If everyone started doing it and I just joined in with no explanation and a "haha, lets RNG the shit out of this guy" or if I just decided not to vote for him because screw RNG, then that would have been harped on as well. I am telling you all, I'm going to try my best to find the mafia, get my own reads and vote the way I want to vote, based on the knowledge I feel I will or have acquired. I had also hoped that in saying that I wasn't going to vote for VE based on the RNG, that anyone else who didn't want to do an RNG vote would step up. Unfortunately it back fired, we're talking about it as if it was the worst thing in the world that I could have said as a starting post. I realize that the way I'm playing is scummy to you guys because you don't know the way I play, the way I think or the goal behind the decisions I make. I assure you, my goal is the same as yours, to find the mafia and lynch them. Do not let me be a mislynch because a handful of people have decided to take small things and make them huge. For example, when Robert said Show nested quote + Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
No where did I say I 'respected RNGsus', this is someone taking what i said out of context, and other people jumped all over it. If you cannot see that I'm town based on the way I have responded and the way people have jumped all over me, then I fear you will never see me as town. Ok, so I will explain now why I have a problem with the way you handled slam.
You were threating him as if you knew he was town while he attacked you. This is not what I would expect from you. Other video mafia players instantly give trolls scumreads somehow (even lynched chezinu day1) and I find it hard to believe that you are able to townread slam if you never played with him especially since he went at you. I know for a fact that is very hard for a scummer to threat townies as if he doesn't know their alignment. This + the way you played yourself down/ tried to not stand out (slam pointed this out) does look really fishy to me.
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On March 05 2014 03:38 austinmcc wrote:If this is to me, because if rayn or boone is mafia, then mafia knows about the QT and any specifics. Could be faked, but because of the frustration at me not answering, he seems to be legitimately in the dark about specifics. Which he wouldn't be if he were mafia with one of them. Therefore, if one of them is mafia (or both), he likely not. Congratulatios. You found out that I am likely not mafia together with the only 2 persons I attacked thus far.
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He is totally sheeping your scumread on yourself! What a bastard.
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On March 05 2014 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote: No but for real I'm hardly confirmed town ez game ez life ftfy
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I am not a disciple of metaing people I never played with before. Correct.
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On March 05 2014 04:03 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 04:00 justanothertownie wrote: I am not a disciple of metaing people I never played with before. Correct. well far be it from me to discourage people from playing in unneccesarily-hard-mode You can stay (for now). Too funny to be scum.
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On March 05 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote: You guys need to seriously stop going at each other. If you're both town then this is getting us literally nowhere. If one of you is scum then whichever of you is town is doing yourself a disservice by continuing to shit up the thread going at each other...it makes you look just as bad as the scum you think you've found. Who do you want them to talk about instead? Any suggestions?
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On March 05 2014 04:22 VisceraEyes wrote: GGTEMPLAR What is there to talk about as long as he doesn't return to the thread? I mean we can kill that guy but it would be more of a policy lynch as far as I am concerned.
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On March 05 2014 04:24 Dandel Ion wrote: You really shouldn't have.
I have a feeling that mafia is not the game for you. Will you stop it now? 2 possibilities: 1) You are annoying the shit out of a fellow townie and prevent him from playing the game properly. 2) You are giving mafia an excuse to ignore you or just shit the thread up an go emo without doing productive things.
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