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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:04 GMT
#716
ok guess im alone here
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:13 GMT
#719
k
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:13 GMT
#720
##Vote: Oatsmaster
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:19 GMT
#722
10/10
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:23 GMT
#725
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:29 GMT
#728
On March 05 2014 15:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
why are you disregarding what people do in favor of calling them scum because fluff clearly = scum?
Even your VE read is incorrect, he brought up a great point but its fluff to you?
And your dandel read. Why is him bitchfighting with Robik and JAT scummy as opposed to what Robik is doing?


I never said fluff=scum

But posting a lot of fluff under the guise of it being pro-town is scummy.

I don't know if you're talking about VE's accusation against me or the post from him I found suspicious.

Robik seems genuinely/stubbornly invested in figuring out the game but is oblivious to how useless his responses are to Dandel b/c he's emotionally invested, whereas Dandel seems a lot more level-headed and rational so you would think he'd be the bigger man and let it go but he eggs it on and encourages it.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:30 GMT
#730
On March 05 2014 15:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's like the worst reasoning ever Robik.

GGTemPlaR your reads are really bad and contradicting. Vote stands.


don't bother explaining

##Unvote
##Vote: Raun
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:32 GMT
#732
On March 05 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf

and? What exactly are you justifying?


I'm discrediting your judgment of me by showing it having a poor track record.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:45 GMT
#735
On March 05 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
why are you disregarding what people do in favor of calling them scum because fluff clearly = scum?
Even your VE read is incorrect, he brought up a great point but its fluff to you?
And your dandel read. Why is him bitchfighting with Robik and JAT scummy as opposed to what Robik is doing?


I never said fluff=scum

But posting a lot of fluff under the guise of it being pro-town is scummy.

I don't know if you're talking about VE's accusation against me or the post from him I found suspicious.

Robik seems genuinely/stubbornly invested in figuring out the game but is oblivious to how useless his responses are to Dandel b/c he's emotionally invested, whereas Dandel seems a lot more level-headed and rational so you would think he'd be the bigger man and let it go but he eggs it on and encourages it.

You seem to think Palmar is scum because of fluff posts 1-20 and that VE is scum because of this fluff post. I was talking about the post you linked.

Why is Dandel more level headed than Robik?


regarding Palmar:
I guess I'll say it another 3 times.
Fluff posts in themselves aren't necessarily scum, but when you pass off fluff as actively pursuing a town agenda/leading town, then it is.
Fluff posts in themselves aren't necessarily scum, but when you pass off fluff as actively pursuing a town agenda/leading town, then it is.
Fluff posts in themselves aren't necessarily scum, but when you pass off fluff as actively pursuing a town agenda/leading town, then it is. Reading is a very useful a talent toi have.

regarding VE :
I about 99% sure if you go back to my post, you would see that I said I found it curious, but didn't get a real scumread on him until _____________ happened that had nothing to do with the fluff. Reading is a very useful a talent toi have.

regarding Dandel/Robik, it felt like he had more control over himself in the argument and could have stopped if he wanted to whereas Robik was tunneled like an emotional donkey who lost his temper. It was just a more radical version of the Dandel/JAT dispute where Dandel looked like he had more self control as well.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:46 GMT
#737
On March 05 2014 15:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf

and? What exactly are you justifying?


I'm discrediting your judgment of me by showing it having a poor track record.

So wrong once = wrong all the time?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_fallacy
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:48 GMT
#741
On March 05 2014 15:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf

and? What exactly are you justifying?


I'm discrediting your judgment of me by showing it having a poor track record.

So wrong once = wrong all the time?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_fallacy

Thats what you said man, not me.


I said I was showing it had a poor track record. I never made the deductive leap you just made for me, which makes the entire thing absurd and easy to laugh at.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:50 GMT
#743
On March 05 2014 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Link posts for the dandel shit man, thats what I was asking.
Where has Palmar promoted his 'fluff' posts as being pro town?


He never explicitly promoted it as fluff. It was implicit the way he was directing discussion - telling X people they need to do Y, asking people all sort of questions then he himself even admitted he wasn't really giving many reads.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:51 GMT
#744
I'm not going to link the entire fight between Dandel/Robik, it's there for you to read. If you didn't get the same impression from it that I did then you're free to disagree.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:55 GMT
#747
Do you town read Palmer from all those posts?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 06:56 GMT
#748
On March 05 2014 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm not going to link the entire fight between Dandel/Robik, it's there for you to read. If you didn't get the same impression from it that I did then you're free to disagree.

ok cool you cant back up your assumption.


So you disagree and think that they both lost their temper and that Dandel wasn't jerking Robik around or that he didn't have the upper hand in that shitfest.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 07:10 GMT
#750
Well it might just be me knowing Robik well in video mafia. He can get really emotionally invested in games and when he loses his temper he'll be really stubborn/resentful/bitter about it which is what I saw in his argument with Dandel, whereas I didn't get the same impression from Dandel.

w/e
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 07:11 GMT
#751
I've only seen Robik get that way as town as well.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 07:50 GMT
#753
Well, it was the second time he got into a useless argument with someone that he seemed to encourage (and this time with someone I had a townread on).

The first being JAT on page 14/15 where he sort of kept forcing it even though JAT seemed to want to move on:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=15#282 - JAT wanting to move on but Dandel continued to egg on him on and troll him for another half-page.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 07:57 GMT
#756
On March 05 2014 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is me questioning Palmar scummy?


You throwing Palmar softballs // useless questions is scummy.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 08:10 GMT
#763
I explained I was never really convinced Slam was mafia, it was an early gutread based on his trolling meta seeming off from the game I played with him. That combined with his early pressure on Boone made me vote him to see how he would react.

Then Boone made some really scummy, hyper-defensive posts (like the two I quoted/linked in my picture post) and argued a lot with things like

On March 04 2014 15:08 boonetown wrote:
you don't know how to read people that you've never played with.


which felt like something I'd never hear her say as town in video mafia. It felt like a really scummy way to respond to early pressure, almost like she had a guilty conscience. A town would probably just be like "IDGAF", not get all emotional about it and blame the game/environment with

On March 04 2014 15:08 boonetown wrote:
I guess I'm not as funny as I thought, and having an opinion that differs from the rest, is seen as scummy here. FML, I should stick to video mafia.

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