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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 14:54 GMT
#2543
On March 11 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote:
I just read the voting thread, I think I may be mafia.

oh god lol, who posts this shit?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 15:21 GMT
#2545
I just saw the scum qt that was leaked to Artanis. Good one.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 15:59 GMT
#2548
Waiting for certain people to show up...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 15:59 GMT
#2549
Fuckin muricans
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 16:33 GMT
#2555
On March 12 2014 01:27 boonetown wrote:
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On March 11 2014 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's the point. He calls people scum without telling why they are scum.
Did you read his defence? He twists every piece of argument into something that it isn't and calls me names.

rofl, i am not switching my vote. I yell you at post game if you don't see why that dude is mafia.

True but to be fair this seems like a dm thing somehow. Just look at boone - she does exactly the same. Or are you calling both of them mafia?



how have i been doing that? granted, i know i'm flip flopping a lot on my reads, but i think i have to to try and get better at this medium of mafia. i'm trying to learn from your guys at the same time that i'm trying to actually help, it's not easy. but i dont think i've done any name calling other than maybe 1 or two times when i was frustrated, and yeah, i shouldn't have. but to say i'm acting the same as templar is so far from the truth.

It's not about the namecalling. It's about the unexplained reads.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 16:34 GMT
#2556
On March 12 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote:
Also I don't call people bad post-game for lynching me, unless it's done without giving me a chance to explain things. You have given me plenty of time to explain things so if I get lynched it's on me.

Remember, if I get lynched because you want me lynched, you've successfully managed to lynch me using terrible arguments (they're terrible by definition as I'm not mafia) and I couldn't win over bad arguments.

hence, my fault.

I like this mindset.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 16:56 GMT
#2572
On March 12 2014 01:50 boonetown wrote:
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On March 11 2014 22:57 Palmar wrote:
rayn looking town in this conversation, templar is the lynch.

Grack looks slightly better for defending me. Ez game for maf, just don't call palmar scum.

Maybe we should come back to lynching that lurky and statement posts medic..


you aren't lynching me today, yes i have been a little lurky the last day or so, but i have been active in the earlier days. life happens as i'm sure you're all aware. i am here now and just reading through the pages.

other than you thinking i should be policy lynched for something i didn't realize i wasn't supposed to do, or making "statement posts" which might just be the way i play... what else makes me mafia in your eyes?

Let's see.... being a non-factor in pushing/questioning people, overall defensiveness and excuses/lack of confidence and unexplained weird reads.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 16:57 GMT
#2575
On March 12 2014 01:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Anyways, right now, assuming Rayn is wrong, I can't really put stock into his townreads because I know his reads are shit this game. He will get time to re-evaluate them once I flip green though so hopefully he can figure this shit out after he wastes one of the misslynches based on a "meta-read".

I know there seems to be this huge town circle from Rayn/Palmar that seems to conclude that Grack/Dandel/Palmar/Rayn/Slam are all town but I know this can't be the case because I'm fairly confident that Robik is town now so it can't be Robik/Boone, meaning someone is pretty fucking wrong.


So your scumread on rayn has vanished?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:03 GMT
#2582
On March 12 2014 02:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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On March 12 2014 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Anyways, right now, assuming Rayn is wrong, I can't really put stock into his townreads because I know his reads are shit this game. He will get time to re-evaluate them once I flip green though so hopefully he can figure this shit out after he wastes one of the misslynches based on a "meta-read".

I know there seems to be this huge town circle from Rayn/Palmar that seems to conclude that Grack/Dandel/Palmar/Rayn/Slam are all town but I know this can't be the case because I'm fairly confident that Robik is town now so it can't be Robik/Boone, meaning someone is pretty fucking wrong.


So your scumread on rayn has vanished?


It's not vanished. If I meta-read him he's playing almost the same as his other town game (although not exactly the same). I'm suspicious over that small discrepancy but it's so small it could just be regular town-town discrepancy in his play.

I think his accusations against me are bullshit but apparently I'm the only one (aside from the Grack point I concede). I can sort of understand where he's coming from though, and almost everyone here seems to think he's town at this point so it's pretty pointless beating a dead horse. If he's mafia you guys probably already lost. In any case he isn't the lynch today.

Ok. If you think so there are only 2 ways for you to survive this day.

1) You convince rayn that you are town. Unlikely.
2) You make a better case on a mafia. Maybe possible.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:26 GMT
#2599
On March 12 2014 02:22 boonetown wrote:
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On March 12 2014 01:46 Palmar wrote:
So who scum boone?



Okay, here we go....


I still think that between Grack and Dandel there is a mafia, and with you in there, we might have 2. If I am wrong, then I can see a world where it's Templar/Robert. I'm pretty sure based on votes and activity and post content that Rayn and JAT are town. Alaka is more of a weird question mark to me because of Hair. I want to think Alaka is mafia, but I can't.

Robert seems to be playing fairly similar to what I'm used too, I know his style and aggression isn't everyone's cup of tea but he can usually figure the game out later on. He's better late game than he is early game.

Templar, I just don't see him putting this much effort into his posts as mafia, and if he did, he would try harder to make them more cohesive I think. Instead he's posting what he thinks as he thinks it and to me that's really town. I also think that while i'm not used to the foul mouthed templar, it's a change he needed to make to make sure people take him seriously. For that, I want to say he's town.

Grack and Dandel, I hate you both. Lol. I feel like I'm either really really wrong, or right on the money. I just can't figure out where I'd be wrong, aside from the fact that I'm alive.

Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world.


I'll give some more reads after I'm done reading certain filters.

You know what's funny? You are asked to give scumread and what you are doing is giving townreads with reasoning and scumreads without.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:30 GMT
#2601
On March 12 2014 02:27 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 01:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Boone,

You know very well that you're off the table for one reason and one reason alone, otherwise you would have been BURIED already. I am tired of these excuses "i'm getting used to this medium" blah blah fucking blah. I want cases on people. I want you to tell me why certain people are town and why certain people are mafia. I don't care if you're wishy washy about it, but like read people and give them +/- points either way. Take some sort of stance besides

On March 12 2014 01:44 boonetown wrote:
I still think Templar is probably town but I don't understand his game play style, but that's just me getting used to the way people play on forum mafia.



Like this isn't Boonetown. This is Boonemafia. This is even worse than Boonemafia. This is BoonemafiaIdon'tgiveashit.



you're so fucking wrong it's laughable. the fact that you are this wrong on me, makes me wonder how wrong you are about other people.

i HAVE to explain myself this game, i HAVE to let me know that this is new for me, because if they assume i'm in this game because I know what I'm doing, i'm even more of a detriment to town than I am now. You also cannot say to me or anyone that this is my mafia play, because you have never seen me play like this before. You need to adapt your reading on people this game, just as I am trying to.

I wouldn't have been buried, and I guarantee you if I wasn't the medic, I would have played D1 much differently, and probably much better. So to say that unless I claimed medic on D1 I would have been buried isn't true. I claimed because I had too, because it's my role and I wanted to try and get at least one save. Until that point I hadnt even been able to use my role. So, if I could get just ONE save, I would have died happy. That being said, if I wasn't claiming medic on D1 it would be because I had a different role, or no role at all, in which case my play would have been different and I could have defended accordingly.

I HAVE given reads, I have also given reasons, they just aren't adding up so people can't make sense of them. Hell, I can't really make sense of them. I am working on it, it's why they change and I flip flop. Give me a fucking break.

Then we have identified part of the problem if you are town. Don't play differently because you are a blue role. Always play like a VT.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:32 GMT
#2603
On March 12 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:50 boonetown wrote:
On March 11 2014 22:57 Palmar wrote:
rayn looking town in this conversation, templar is the lynch.

Grack looks slightly better for defending me. Ez game for maf, just don't call palmar scum.

Maybe we should come back to lynching that lurky and statement posts medic..


you aren't lynching me today, yes i have been a little lurky the last day or so, but i have been active in the earlier days. life happens as i'm sure you're all aware. i am here now and just reading through the pages.

other than you thinking i should be policy lynched for something i didn't realize i wasn't supposed to do, or making "statement posts" which might just be the way i play... what else makes me mafia in your eyes?


Now don't go all lying on me, you have the shortest filter of anyone in the game by quite a bit.

That's a good metric for lynching scum usually.

But hey, I'm the listening type of person, let's hear what you have to say.

And my vote isn't actually on you, I am not pushing towards your lynch right now, and that is precisely because all I have on you is that you are some wifom day 1 roleclaiming medic thing + your posts look very much like statement posts and you're very inactive and don't interact much with people in the thread.

This looks bad, but I can't conclude you must be scum because of those things. So for now you're just some random medic.


I'm not lying, I thought I was pretty active D1 and D2, or at least as active as life allowed me to be. I know some of my posts were longer but I explained why they would be, if you want me to explain it again... I will.



No, no, no. Don't do that. Your contributions need to be on point from now on. No mentioning of video mafia no mentioning of rl or the likes of that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:38 GMT
#2611
On March 12 2014 02:35 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:50 boonetown wrote:
On March 11 2014 22:57 Palmar wrote:
rayn looking town in this conversation, templar is the lynch.

Grack looks slightly better for defending me. Ez game for maf, just don't call palmar scum.

Maybe we should come back to lynching that lurky and statement posts medic..


you aren't lynching me today, yes i have been a little lurky the last day or so, but i have been active in the earlier days. life happens as i'm sure you're all aware. i am here now and just reading through the pages.

other than you thinking i should be policy lynched for something i didn't realize i wasn't supposed to do, or making "statement posts" which might just be the way i play... what else makes me mafia in your eyes?

Let's see.... being a non-factor in pushing/questioning people, overall defensiveness and excuses/lack of confidence and unexplained weird reads.



I was a non factor!?!? I questioned joey start of D2, determined he was mafia, and voted accordingly. I also tried my best to explain to people WHY i thought he was mafia. I tried to explain why I thought Austin was mafia on D1 and Rayn was town (though we now know I was wrong on austin). I tried to get him lynched, and no one was having it. Yes, I have excuses and maybe I'm lacking a little confidence and I don't really care if this is scummy to you or not. I know my role and alignment, and if you don't want me to explain why I have played the way I have, don't ask me. I am defensive because that is how I play, and I'm frustrated. I shouldn't have played this game, I even tried to get out of it at one point but was told because of my video mafia and epicmafia games, I qualified. Now that I'm here, I'm out of my element, I have no fucking clue where I'm going wrong and people want to push on me for the most retarded reasons, without accepting that my excuses are FACTS.

You want to lynch me, for right ahead. You'd be doing me a huge fucking favor at this point.

At the start of D2 mafia knew Joey was going down no matter what. Better bus him.
Your excuses may be facts. The scummy thing about is that you are bringing them up all the time in the first place. Just stop that and contribute by giving reads/questioning/pushing people.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:43 GMT
#2617
I think I made it clear that I will take giving up as scumclaim. I have to go now - I don't know if I can make it back before deadline but I'll try.
For now:
##Vote.GGTemplar
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2623
On March 12 2014 02:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I didn't give up

that's very convenient of you though JAT

Is it? Then you better try lynching me while I am away! Maybe you will succeed!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 21:55 GMT
#2761
I am back what's going on?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#2765
Why is Grack leading in votes?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 21:57 GMT
#2768
And why does he vote himself? Did he claim scum or something?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 21:57 GMT
#2771
Did Hari seldon speak again or is this some kind of blind sheeping?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 11 2014 21:59 GMT
#2775
On March 12 2014 06:58 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
this is so bad.

"lynching who the cop tells you to is bad play"
-Rayn 2014

" A cop without a check isn't more informed than a normal townie" - JAT 2014
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