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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 13:21 GMT
#2212
rayn town hero btw.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 13:23 GMT
#2214
No I don't care anymore rayn, I read your interactions with templar day 1. You're now town hero.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 13:26 GMT
#2216
On March 10 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 22:20 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

i. Alakascum

Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.

-snip-

Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.

-snip

Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit.


huehue

These are from the same post.

Rayn pointed it out day 1. Everyone is bad.

To be fair he later on said "he explained his thought process on Slam read throughout the game" and that's why he wrote a scumread and townread on him in the same post. It kinda makes sense, what doesn't make sense is why he did it in the first place.


His big post where he calls me/ve/dandel/boone scum is terrible too anyway.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 13:28 GMT
#2218
oh and then he has a new list of scum

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin

and he voted you at some point.

so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.

In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 13:50 GMT
#2223
On March 10 2014 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Rayn are you town?

Of course i am fucking town.

are you fucking town? wow.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 13:50 GMT
#2225
Can I call you bad if you're wrong on templar?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 14:48 GMT
#2229
Tbh, templar wanted to lynch me today, and killing everyone that tries to kill me is usually a great strategy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 17:45 GMT
#2235
Much discussion
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 17:46 GMT
#2237
rayn if you're scum I'm going to try to lynch you for like 5 games in a row or something.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 18:06 GMT
#2243
rayn tell this dude I'm town pls
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 20:27 GMT
#2302
On March 11 2014 05:24 IAmRobik wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar


Based on what?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 20:28 GMT
#2303
I mean while I'm as big of a fan of random awful votes as everyone else, it's really hard to argue with "I'm going to vote for you".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 22:22 GMT
#2318
On March 11 2014 05:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 11 2014 05:24 IAmRobik wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar


Based on what?

VE vote d1
-subpar play all game
-increased activity today when you knew you were going to get pressure
-hari's ungodly wisdom


1. The VE vote was the most towny thing I've one this entire game. It was a terrible play, but it was not mafia play. Remember that I started out on VE. Then I randomly decided all the scum was on VE's wagon so I moved over to Killing, then I figured VE wasn't defending himself and was probably scum and went back.

I had no guarantee that enough people would follow me to make the lynches count. In fact I pushed a few people onto Killing (who in your theory is my scumpartner) before moving back.

2. Yes I've had an off game. That doesn't make me mafia, it just means that something about this game doesn't quite click for me. Even now I'm still constantly doubting myself. I'm having to remind myself that rayn's interactions with ggtemplar look quite good, just so I don't doubt the townread on him because he feels still somewhat off this game.

3. Today is not weekend. That helps?

4. Shouldn't you be trying to lynch Grack then? hairy seems much more confident in his grack read.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 22:23 GMT
#2319
Btw this is how you deal with people wanting to lynch you, not just yell and shout. That part of your play was incredibly boring.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 22:27 GMT
#2321
Oats was supertown, he was a good shot by the mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 22:29 GMT
#2323
And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 10 2014 22:34 GMT
#2329
On March 11 2014 07:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 11 2014 07:29 Palmar wrote:
And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy.

You are really that convinced about rayn by now?

The points he made about templar on day 1 basically showed he was reading the thread very attentively. I am no, not entirely certain, and a lot of his other play makes me question him being town, but it's good enough reasoning for me to assume he is.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2014 10:43 GMT
#2420
On March 11 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So there's far too many people this game who don't know how to read for them all to be scum, so most of the people doing dumb shit are probably just incompetent/lazy town who SHOULD feel stupid as hell when I flip green.

At this point the best thing I can do is try to have my vote on scum when I die so I can feel better about getting lynched by logical fallacies.

Rayn is probably just a noob town tunneled on me at this point, partially motivated by a meta-read from another game.


Don't be the guy who blames other people for his lynch. The worst player in the thread is the one who gets lynched as he didn't manage to argue his way out of it, which is the entire point of playing mafia. No matter their alignment.

On March 11 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The way Palmar completely flipped on him/me though felt weak as fuck. I thought Palmar was scummy D1, and after analyzing the votes he's probably with Grack or Dandelion. Fortunately you still have a misslynch after you kill me so if you kill Palmar tomorrow, the order in which you kill Grack/Dandel doesn't matter too much. Kill the three of them and you probably win the game.


I did not flip. Me flipping on something implies having had the opposite opinion beforehand. and the more I read this day the less I feel sure I'm making the right call. I am tempted to trust Sheldon and try to lynch Grack, but you lying about what I've done doesn't help your case.

What I simply did is notice a few points in rayn's day 1 filter that suggest he's attentively reading the thread, and thus is less likely than before to be scum. I am still uncertain on him, but if I have any reason to believe he is town, I also have a reason to assume that he's doing his best.

Your day 1 filter IS all over the place, if you explain why that is logical from your point of view I'll listen.

On March 11 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I was seduced into townreading Dandel by JAT after the D1 flip but in light of Killing flipping scum I think it's possible his analysis was just wrong, sort of like how he's wrong on me right now. If he's right though the last one is Grack.

I scumread Dandel/Palmar D1 as well and D2 Grack went on my radar. Rayn defended all three of them and pushed me the whole game. No one wants to lynch rayn so if rayn is scum, all the town should feel stupid because they are (although they probably won't. they'll just blame me).

And if I'm right that it's Palmar and Dandel or Grack, then Rayn should feel stupid for defending mafia against a town accuser the whole game and pushing a lynch on a townie who was trying to kill scum (although they probably won't. they'll just blame me).

##Vote: Palmar


Tinfoil hat time:

Templar could be mafia, but if he is, he is basically clearing me. There is literally no reason at all for the mafia team to clear me, I'm under heavy suspicion by multiple people. The reason I say he's clearing me is that I am still very much at risk at being lynched today, so if I flip town, templar looks bad, if templar flips mafia I look good. It makes very little sense from mafia perspective to leave a read like this by templar.

I am actually really thinking about moving back to Grack. I would like input on that idea.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2014 10:44 GMT
#2421
On March 11 2014 10:10 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
It's harder for me to read into Grack though because he has more troll content whereas I think I have a better read on what Palmar is doing because it's just plain scummy.


Please demonstrate where I have been scummy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2014 10:56 GMT
#2423
On March 04 2014 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We lynch Grackaroni if he decides to troll, no fucking trolling because when he tries to play he is actually good or readable if he is mafia.


Does this still apply?
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