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On March 10 2014 16:01 thrawn2112 wrote:whoops, there's been a mistake. "-a---" should be "--a--"
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See this is where we can add "Grack" to the mix 
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On March 10 2014 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote:
btw, 1000 townie points for whoever comes up with a reasonable solution to the first paragraph from that hairy sheldon guy ##Vote: Palmar
On March 10 2014 11:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
See, I need you guys to elaborate on what reasons you have behind those in order to explain why you're wrong. There is literally no downside as town to expand upon your reasoning, as if I am mafia I will be unable to explain why I'm not.
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Maybe the reason this game sucks is that too many players are american, impossible to communicate with sleeping people.
pls respond... someone...
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On March 10 2014 15:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, I read both messages, I very much doubt that Hari is "fictitious." You can tell that what's written is done so in the nighttime, as it doesn't have information on the night kills.
I agree with this.
The only problem I have is that I'm not entirely certain of Hari's alignment, but if he is mafia he has done a good job of continuity with the Slam plotline. If you read his day 2 post, he mentions Slam being completely unreadable which makes perfect sense with him checking Slam on n1.
The good news is that if he's cop, we will get another check on day 3 no matter what, as messages are almost certainly written at nighttime. Sort of hoping he checks me.
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Fuck it I'll just talk to myself then.
So Palmar, now that people want to lynch you, maybe it's time you start doing something.
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On March 10 2014 18:07 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it I'll just talk to myself then.
So Palmar, now that people want to lynch you, maybe it's time you start doing something.
Yeah don't worry, I'm preferably not going to get lynched, but at least I will make whoever wants to lynch me earn the lynch, that will leave a ton of information because the lynch will have to be actively pushed, so town can then check if people had legitimate motivation for pushing me.
I'll also try to leave as much information as I possibly can to the thread, that sounds like a good idea.
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On March 10 2014 18:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 18:07 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it I'll just talk to myself then.
So Palmar, now that people want to lynch you, maybe it's time you start doing something. Yeah don't worry, I'm preferably not going to get lynched, but at least I will make whoever wants to lynch me earn the lynch, that will leave a ton of information because the lynch will have to be actively pushed, so town can then check if people had legitimate motivation for pushing me. I'll also try to leave as much information as I possibly can to the thread, that sounds like a good idea.
So who do you think is scum then?
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That's the problem dude, I don't really know. What I do know is the town reads I have. I was pretty sure Oats was town but he got deaded, so there's that.
I'm pretty convinced JAT is town too, as I said yesterday, he's just being way too reasonable to be scum.
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Boone seems to think JAT is scum, I think we should go figure out why.
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Palmar:
Also this is confusing I'm going to tag the posts using a color, so I know which head is talking.
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Palmar:
You can pick your own color.
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Green:
I'm picking confirmed-town-green. It's a great color.
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Palmar:
So Boone did have a town read on JAT in the early game, and to be honest she has repeatedly mentioned and is very much aware of her changing stance throughout the game on JAT.
On March 06 2014 02:40 boonetown wrote:
JAT and Slam are probably town for how they pushed on me, trying to figure out the game
This next post is the only content post that actually says why JAT is mafia. And it's for the most part based on Austin's read.
On March 07 2014 08:45 boonetown wrote:
Austin says (in order as I read)
Jat worries him. The only thing he really liked about JAT was that he questioned if the QT's should be open about what's discussed within them. He thinks JAT is a little too interested in the QTs, and that you didnt really do much other that ask a lot of questions about it. He questioned why you rebuffed VE wanted to talk about templar, when you're all in a QT together. He thinks that you were trying to put together an attack/case against me by questioning my reasons for my reads on Austin.
"His suspects are all the common suspects. No idea who to lynch, maybe Killing/GG/Boone. Shocker. Won't kill VE (why?), slam (why?), DI (why?)" that was about JAT still.
This is also really good to bring up I think :
"He's NEVER giving his own reasons for why GGtemplar or killing or anyone are mafia. And he's chippy with oats, like...calling oats out for not making points to convince JAT of something, while JAT never takes the time to make original points against ANYONE."
Is that typical of JAT, cause I was actually reading him super town yesterday.
He wanted to know about past games JAT was in.
And then she just has a new read, mostly based on associative stuff about Killing
On March 10 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote:
This is what I prepared last night in the off chance that i was alive.
I think there is a mafia between Palmar and Dandel. I hate how they changed their vote literally in the last minute of the lynch from KILLING/TEMPLAR to VE, ensuring his death. If there is one between the two, I'm certain it's Dandel. Now, I have flip flopped a LOT on Oats and JAT, and so, other than Grack whom i think is mafia, the other possible mafia is JAT imo. I reread joey's filter and he tries really hard not to talk to, or about either of them. JAT is mentioned more than Grack but still very seldom. Templar and Robert are town in my eyes, You're my biggest question mark but I have thought you were town for this long, I dont want to get paranoid and change that read. Alakaslam is another WTF for me but if I had to make an opinion of him on the spot, it would be town. So to sum it up, I think that Dandel, Grack and JAT are most likely scum, with Palmar trailing at the end.
But the problem here is that JAT isn't the only read boone doesn't explain. She writes a lot about who she thinks is mafia or town, but seems to have a really tough time pointing out the "why".
So I have no idea if it makes her scum. It makes her hard to read and it makes her reads pretty pointless for everyone else as there is no way anyone can related to those feels.
What I know is that boone's filter does not make me doubt the town read I have on JAT.
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Palmar:
So we just ignore boone based on the medic claim?
This is the thing, I am, just as you are a fan of the whole "We don't come back to lynches unless we really should." And boone should have been policy lynched on day 1. I'm not sure how much we need to consider her.
Also while I didn't look at the JAT stuff specifically, I noticed her filter is fairly short and contains a lot of those "statement posts" (think holyflare's play in survivor series).
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Palmar:
Meh, we could always just leave her out. Just ignore that she exists and look at other targets, and only come back to her if we run out of mafia candidates.
Grack is probably the one we should be checking out, thank you based hairy sheldon.
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Palmar:
Go read Grack bitch.
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Palmar:
So remember how I had a town read on Grack on day 1, that was mostly based on him making a few really good reads (imo at the time). I thought him being right = him being town. Here is his read on Slam:
On March 04 2014 14:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Alakaslam ez town read. You no vote slam you need sheep. Sheep Grack win. Grack win = good.
I totally forgot about this post too, this is where I called Grack out for being useless/trolling. (remember on day 1 I was trying to get people to play the game).
On March 05 2014 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 01:50 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2014 01:44 Grackaroni wrote:
lol Oats and Rayn are both buddying you so hard. Btw at what point do you intend to do anything useful btw. I mean you've thrown out a town-read on slam, which at the time was justified I think, and you seem to think I'm town (your wording that the two players mentioned are buddying me seems to imply that I must be town). Do you think it's likely rayn is scum? If so, why? I wasn't implying that you have to be town. It's just you have people who you like which coincidentally appear to be the people who like you.
Another little nugget: VE apparently called Grack out:
On March 05 2014 06:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 05:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 05 2014 05:09 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
@austin
Alak is fearless in his trolling, Grack not so fearless. Between the two I'd say Grack has a higher chance of flipping scum based on what's been said, Alak more likely to flip town. I don't think they both scum, but it's possible they both town. You're of the opinion that they've both just been purely trolling? Nothing's non-trolly and valuable for readin'? No Alak has been providing limited opinions - I say limited because he's intentionally trying to make himself hard to understand. Grack has also been providing opinions, but what he's been doing I wouldn't classify as trolling, and that's why I say he's not fearless this game. He quickly faded off the trolling early and got to business, and I don't expect that from a town-aligned Grack. Drats suspicion. And I was the confirmed town too - prime sheeping material whenever I figure out who I will kill. You suck VE.
This next post is the big town-read post. When Grack posted this I felt really sure that he had to be town, there is no reason really for mafia to ever give Oats (knowing how Oats is usually a lynchbait) a townread. You can almost count on Oats to be there to screw up for town in lylo, but Oats actually played a very impressive game and (ironically I am the lynchbait now...) and Grack gave him props for it.
So Grack has thrown out two town-reads on people who are almost certainly town, and at this point he also seemed to like me as town too.
On March 05 2014 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 07:52 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2014 06:22 Grackaroni wrote:On March 05 2014 03:45 austinmcc wrote:AFK 40ish. SLAM- Mind meld with boone. Is her revealing our QT townie or scummy and why?
- Pick DI or oats or Killing please, and give your thoughts on them, BUT at least 60% of the words you use to give your thoughts must start with the letter R.
- Why are you not RNG lynching?
GRACK- You summoned Oats, he appeared and has posted a good bit. What are your thoughts on Oats?
- You disliked rayn's post on me, can you speak about his other posts as well, an overall read on rayn? If you'd like, you can do so using at least 50% words that start with the letter T.
- Who are the three MOST NULL people in this game right now?
Oatsmaster: Oatsmaster offers opinions of other origins. Oatsmaster often opposite others. Once overly open - obvious Oatsmaster Least bad post you've made in this thread. GJ. I liked that one too.
See! I loved that post!
On March 05 2014 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:
eh It's really not as hard this game as last game. I'm sure that Slam is town. Oats looks pretty good to me. DI looks quite good when you compare this game to his scum play. Robik is pretty active and I'm inclined to believe that he would lurk as mafia. Palmar looks decent.
From there you just have to narrow it down. Rayn and VE both sound like fun lynches to me. Boone/Killing are harder for me to read because I'm unfamiliar with them and they make longer posts, which I misread frequently because players have plenty of time to craft them and make those posts look good.
This is a super interesting post from Grack. He gives me/dandel/slam/robik all a pass. We know VE is town now. Rayn is still that one piece of the puzzle I just can't get.
If anyone can explain to me if the part about "I'm inclined to believe that he (robik) would lurk as mafia" is a legitimate read, that would be great. I have no idea why Grack would assume this. But it could be based on past games? assuming robik is a newbie? idk.
To give Grack what he deserves, he was at least trying to poke at the game.
On March 05 2014 15:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn can you please talk about your Austin read? Usually when you find something suspicious you will harp on about it until people agree with you. Why did you drop your suspicion?
This is one of few posts where Grack is poking at Rayn, several others regard to rayn's call for a policy lynch on Grack.
On March 06 2014 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
hmmm I like Austin's killing points.
Again, to be fair to Grack, he did like me come around on austinmcc when austin started posting.
The timing of this post is very important. Grack who had previously agreed to a Killing lynch changed his mind based on Killing's "remorse" post, if you want to call it that. He then moved over to VE who Grack was also pressuring at the time. This next post is written when I had just made the switch over to Killing and called for everyone to go hammer Killing (something Grack did not do).
On March 06 2014 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
wtf is palmar doing?
Since this Grack hasn't really done anything at all in the game. He argued a bit with Oatsmaster, but his filter is extremely short and he doesn't appear to be really trying to win.
That all being said, he has for the most part explained his pushes (his VE push had reasons, they weren't great but they were there). He did explain why the post by killing made Grack think Killing is town. So there are some points in his favor.
However his filter is _extremely_ short, there is almost no content in it. And here's another post that looks quite bad.
On March 09 2014 00:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Has anyone questioned Palmar on his thought process from the end of the day?
He never followed up on this against me, didn't even bother asking me himself. He just threw that out there but apparently did not care at all about the results this would generate.
He may be lazy and trolling but he may also be scum.
For now I'd say I stick him at the bottom of my town->scum list and see if anyone drops below him before we start lynching
Palmar
Jat
Slam
boone
Grack
I still need to read these other people:
Robik
Dandel
Templar
rayn
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Palmar:
So you're saying Grack is scum?
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Palmar:
No I'm saying that he is more likely than the other people I have read to be scum. And that is with the caveat of leaving boone out of the equation for now.
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