EPTI'm a cop you idiot mafia 2 - Page 34
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Sylencia
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On March 02 2014 00:16 Sylencia wrote: Everything is clear tomorrow in any case. At least, it should be. And yet you claimed that no-lynching is bad?  | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
Not worth risking everything for. Towncred isn't scum's #1 priority. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Xatalos
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Oatsmaster
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On March 02 2014 00:26 Xatalos wrote: And yet you claimed that no-lynching is bad? Nah, it's only something I realised when I woke up this morning. It still ends up with the fake-cop getting lynched tomorrow, so it's still the same. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
What if Oats is actually the Doctor? This is what got me thinking: On March 01 2014 22:29 Oatsmaster wrote: shits dont need no reasoning Xata pls check me. Maybe I'm just imagining things, but it felt like Oats both 1) wanted to be checked and 2) wanted to be checked by ME especially. This means that he basically thinks I'm the real Cop. Now, it could be just that he's scum and it's a slight slip, but it's a possibility that he's been the Doc all along and pretended to support Sylencia (and overall look bad) in order not to get NK'd. I also don't like how JJD has pretty much been inactive in the discussion for a long time. That's part of the reason that got me to reconsider him being near-surely town. I still think Oats is the most likely remaining scum - but it might not be impossible for him to be town. Or... it could be that this was intentional by Oats and I get killed now.... Or it could be that I noticed something that really wasn't there... We'll see (AFK a moment now) | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
1. Sn0_Man - 100% Town Hurr. 2. Xatalos - 85% Town Reason 1: WIFOM during the night Could be faked, but it seems like something a cop would think of and he was the first to think about it. I thought it was smart. Reason 2: Claimed Green on Sn0 Sn0 was a potential mislynch, and in this setup mafia only needs one mislynch for a victory. He was the easiest person to push, yet Xata came out with a green claim. This could be an attempt to get cred, but it seems more likely that he's just town. Also a 25% chance of getting busted instantly if Sn0 CCs cop. One point to note though is that he did try to claim credit for it. On February 28 2014 08:19 Xatalos wrote: Haha I suppose the most logical conclusion is that we're both town or both Mafia. It'd be pretty weird if I removed the most lucrative mislynch target as scum.... Reason 3: Weird wording after his claim. On February 28 2014 08:24 Xatalos wrote: I'll be going to sleep now and hopefully there will be another Cop claim by the time I wake up. I don't really see scum winning this anyways without a fakeclaim (and even then it'd be quite difficult). Would scum post hopefully? They would know that another claim is going to happen. Reason 4: He's actively tried to figure out the game at many points. He's explained himself a lot and everything he's said after the claim makes sense. A few things bother me though. His play before the end of N0 had a few holes. It felt like he was following thread sentiment a lot back then. His reasoning followed after mine, most of the time, and his suspicions on BH were ill-founded, but given scum shot BH there's no real reason to suspect him for it. I'm quite good with town Xatalos. 3. JarJarDrinks - 80% Town Reasons: He has given a lot of stuff to the thread. He called Sn0 out for good reasons and formulated a plan for the doc. There are a few holes in his plan though, like with both players checking the same player; it seems like scum could simply shoot the player that they would check. Another thing that has sparked my interest in hindsight is how his entire plan that he talked about revolved around the optimal play for if the cop died on N0. The cop didn't die on N0 and now JJD has only 2 pages of filter despite being quite active at the start of the game. It worries me. He's been in a great position, getting lots of cred and then proceeds to not use it for anything. Town has the motivation of wanting to aid town, so they should post. Scum want to not raise suspicion for why they're still alive, so if they're in a great position they'll probably try to alleviate some of the credit. It could also be demotivation if scum is in a poor situation, which would be the case if Sylencia is mafia and the counterclaim went poorly. Cop didn't get shot on N0 either, so it's a situation I see as real. Problem with that is that JJD instantly said that Xatalos is 99% town. If he's scum with Sylencia, why would he do that? It could be an attempt to get into a better position in the endgame, but I'll have to give JJD townie points if Xatalos is indeed the town cop, and if Xatalos is the scum cop JJD shouldn't be demotivated as scum because they're in a great spot. In the end, everything JJD has said seems to be in town's favour but there's feels about him. I've got me feels. 4. Oatsmaster - 20% Town Oats and Sylencia are very strongly connected in that Oats has hard defended Sylencia quite a bit. This is what he's been doing for most of the day. Oats being scum with Sylencia is therefore at the forefront of everyone's mind, which means Oats' play would be bad if he were scum with Sylencia. Doesn't mean that it isn't the case though, and if they're both scum they're in a terrible position. The speed with which Oats believes Sylencia's claim is not something I see as alignment indicative. Oats has strong gut reads and doesn't let go of them. Something I believe Prom told me about reading Oats though is that he often sheeps his town reads as town which he doesn't when he's scum. Oats has not really done that this game. He's taken the opposition and ran with it. Other strange things in his filter are how he ragged on Xatalos for not voting for Sylencia because he was confirmed scum to him. It should be obvious to everyone that Sylencia is confirmed scum to Xatalos and the other way around. Not voting doesn't mean anything in that regard, you're already making your voice explicit. He's also set a "trap" which he then sprung, a short while after he says there's no reason to hide what you think. It's not a direct contradiction but it shows two conflicting thought processes. Why couldn't people hide their own thought process as a trap? It doesn't really make sense. His reasoning on targets is poor and he's tunneling pretty hard. Calls Xata scum for having a more prepared claim when both scum and town cop should be prepared to claim. Also said that scum profit from the game going on longer despite town having two blue roles and scum having nothing to counter it other than claims. He has been pressuring people though, and that puts him ahead of Sylencia. 5. Sylencia - 15% Town There is nothing town about Sylencia's filter other than his claim. He hasn't done anything in the game other than claim cop, and when he did he just followed thread sentiment. His cop claim was on someone who already got checked green so there's little risk there. One point though; he could've claimed green on someone else and then there wouldn't have been any confirmed townies. Problem with this is that he set himself up on D1 to check sn0, so he didn't leave much choice there. One thing to note on that thought process is that if he was scum, he would be more likely to leave himself open to check multiple targets if he were going to claim cop. His recent rage is not really alignment indicative to me. He hasn't really been trying to prove that Xatalos is scum. For some reason Oats took that away from him. He looks quite bad. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On March 02 2014 01:18 Xatalos wrote: If I die, here is one (unlikely) theory that could possibly be possible. What if Oats is actually the Doctor? This is what got me thinking: Maybe I'm just imagining things, but it felt like Oats both 1) wanted to be checked and 2) wanted to be checked by ME especially. This means that he basically thinks I'm the real Cop. Now, it could be just that he's scum and it's a slight slip, but it's a possibility that he's been the Doc all along and pretended to support Sylencia (and overall look bad) in order not to get NK'd. I also don't like how JJD has pretty much been inactive in the discussion for a long time. That's part of the reason that got me to reconsider him being near-surely town. I still think Oats is the most likely remaining scum - but it might not be impossible for him to be town. Or... it could be that this was intentional by Oats and I get killed now.... Or it could be that I noticed something that really wasn't there... We'll see (AFK a moment now) hahaha scumslip thanks Xata :D | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
Day 2 ![[image loading]](http://www.bubblews.com/assets/images/news/2117938982_1386716510.jpg) Holy shit, someone died again! Xatalos the cop has died It is now day 2. The day will end when a majority has been reached. With five players alive it takes 3 to lynch. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
Here's the breakdown: If I'm scum, I shoot Art. - Art Dies - Syl and Xat vote each other - Sno votes for Syl mosy likely - Oats votes for Xat - I hammer Xat and we win And you can switch me and Art for the same conclusion. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
I think he is scummy. | ||
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