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On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up. My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play.
On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?
Looking into more people now.
These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it
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On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up. My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?
Looking into more people now. These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it
She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play.
The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it.
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Mocsta (2) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern
geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz
TheChyz (2) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript, gumshoe
gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (2) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet
Vivax (1) - WaveofShadow
Not Voting - Ange777, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho
suki is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
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On February 27 2014 14:28 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up. My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play. On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?
Looking into more people now. These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play. The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it.
right.... so then she said it was a legitimate call out only to then say my case was bad despite agreeing that her case was bad in the first place ~__~
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ok wave for the sake of sanity, let's be friends! i'll re-read/discuss your vivax stuffz
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I like Wave's case on Vivax and it was one of the ones that stood out to me when I was rereading the thread.
I have a strong townread on Wave and I'd be willing to sheep him on Vivax.
On February 27 2014 04:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 04:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
vivax, how do you feel about Chyz or the people voting him? I find it odd that you haven't mentioned him despite the fact that he's got 4 votes on him right now. I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned. I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause: 1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious.
I think this was already pointed out but this post is weird as hell. He's trying to give a townie explanation why he should withhold information.
On February 27 2014 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 27 2014 04:37 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 04:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
vivax, how do you feel about Chyz or the people voting him? I find it odd that you haven't mentioned him despite the fact that he's got 4 votes on him right now. I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned. I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause: 1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious. lol right off the bat that's pretty awful. You'd rather focus on the people you find scummy, except they're not around right now so you have nothing further to push as you've said yourself. Why not comment on Chyz? People in glasshouses and stones, that's all I have to say to this post. It's no surprise you're one of my scumspects (now officially) when you now accuse me of something you're guilty of yourself. How is Chyz a person of interest to you if you never seem to mention him in your own posts yourself?
Vivax's counter-attack on Wave seems really forced. Like 'you called me scummy for this? No you're scummy for this!'
On February 27 2014 05:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fucking school internet
Vivax difference between you and me is I haven't looked into chyz yet but I want to, as it is relevant to thread interest right now. I don't take a stance on him yet because it doesn't make sense for me to have one before reading. You give a read based on.....? And then refuse to elaborate further.
Those two things are most certainly not the same thing. Can you explain to me how you can find me suspicious for not-scumreading a guy you didn't even look into yet? You want to hear reasons for him being something when you don't even know what he wrote? What would you do with these reasons when you didn't even reach any own conclusions you could compare the information with? But you're suspicious cause I give reasons for not talking about my read on him when you give out reads for "feels"? ##Vote WaveOfShadow
Vivax misses the point of Wave's pressure entirely and basically OMGUSes him.
So in short I would be fine with Vivax lynch as well today.
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On February 27 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 14:28 Cavalinho wrote:On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up. My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play. On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?
Looking into more people now. These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play. The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it. right.... so then she said it was a legitimate call out only to then say my case was bad despite agreeing that her case was bad in the first place ~__~
You're nitpicking.
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On February 27 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 14:28 Cavalinho wrote:On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up. My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play. On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?
Looking into more people now. These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play. The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it. right.... so then she said it was a legitimate call out only to then say my case was bad despite agreeing that her case was bad in the first place ~__~
At this point, we are just arguing in circles.
Let's look at the facts we have in front of us now: Chyz has added nothing, and it clearly isn't due to time constraints, whereas the second suki comes back and has a chance to sit down and look at shit, she expounds her initially poor case with good evidence.
I think it's solid, for the moment.
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Holy I looked through your filter and recently you've only talked about me as scum.
Please, share some of your other reads. Do you still find Mocsta suspicious? Who else is on your lynch list?
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Cav who do you find scummy? Let's see a vote.
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On February 27 2014 14:45 suki wrote:
Cav who do you find scummy? Let's see a vote.
I've already voted TheChyz once, but I unvoted because my townread on rayn is pretty strong and I'd be willing to follow him.
My current scumread is TheChyz, but geript is being weird as fuck and I can't really read him.
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On February 27 2014 14:38 Holyflare wrote:
ok wave for the sake of sanity, let's be friends! i'll re-read/discuss your vivax stuffz
We're already friends. I have lots of friends in this game, I'm just angry at them.
Why for the sake of sanity though?
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On February 27 2014 13:35 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him. Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar? Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched. My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up. Explain
Alright let me pull up the things that gave me a town vibe:
On February 26 2014 11:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:K, don't like mocsta claiming suki looks scummy for an "overly worded [claim]" Saying everyone else was acting carefree while suki was trying extra hard seems like total BS. In fact I thought the exact opposite. I felt like suki seemed pretty relaxed while guys like WoS and Geript were trying extra hard to look playful. Then this: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:42 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:40 suki wrote:
hm.. can we please not let this misspelling of my name become a trend? That's the most important thing to respond from my observation? I'd like to know exactly how suki is supposed to respond to this:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:38 Mocsta wrote:
Sukmi
U seem most out of place for me so far
Everyone else is relatively carefree whereas u seem more try hard - in particular your claim is overly worded
I get the history with toad, but your approach is not conducive towards gleaning alignment either
Bolded part shows critical thinking. I actually thought it was a really clever question.
On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
So...
in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.
Congratz JJD.
Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards. But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case.
This as well.
Like, he's looking at the interactions and reading between the lines, trying to figure out the game.
On February 26 2014 13:28 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 26 2014 12:46 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 12:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript i don't get what you are saying.... Like, he's acknowledging how scummy it would look for him to sheep the suki case. That feels really off to me coming from any town perspective. Ahh okay. I don't know, i don't really get what JJD is saying there, maybe he can explain, it's not really clear to me. Anyways if your interpretation is correct why would he say that as mafia? Like say something irrelevant that makes people think he is avoiding doing scummy stuff? I think my statement is pretty self explainitory. I think it's scummy that gumshoe sheeped mocstas terrible case. Nothing cryptic about it. The suki case was bad.
Posts like these are confident. He doesn't overexplain his reads.
Yeah he just feels to me like he's trying to understand the game. He's being transparent and open with his thoughts, even if he doesn't have high quantity.
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On February 27 2014 14:40 suki wrote:I like Wave's case on Vivax and it was one of the ones that stood out to me when I was rereading the thread. I have a strong townread on Wave and I'd be willing to sheep him on Vivax. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 04:37 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 04:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
vivax, how do you feel about Chyz or the people voting him? I find it odd that you haven't mentioned him despite the fact that he's got 4 votes on him right now. I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned. I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause: 1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious. I think this was already pointed out but this post is weird as hell. He's trying to give a townie explanation why he should withhold information. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 04:56 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 27 2014 04:37 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 04:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
vivax, how do you feel about Chyz or the people voting him? I find it odd that you haven't mentioned him despite the fact that he's got 4 votes on him right now. I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned. I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause: 1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious. lol right off the bat that's pretty awful. You'd rather focus on the people you find scummy, except they're not around right now so you have nothing further to push as you've said yourself. Why not comment on Chyz? People in glasshouses and stones, that's all I have to say to this post. It's no surprise you're one of my scumspects (now officially) when you now accuse me of something you're guilty of yourself. How is Chyz a person of interest to you if you never seem to mention him in your own posts yourself? Vivax's counter-attack on Wave seems really forced. Like 'you called me scummy for this? No you're scummy for this!' Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:39 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fucking school internet
Vivax difference between you and me is I haven't looked into chyz yet but I want to, as it is relevant to thread interest right now. I don't take a stance on him yet because it doesn't make sense for me to have one before reading. You give a read based on.....? And then refuse to elaborate further.
Those two things are most certainly not the same thing. Can you explain to me how you can find me suspicious for not-scumreading a guy you didn't even look into yet? You want to hear reasons for him being something when you don't even know what he wrote? What would you do with these reasons when you didn't even reach any own conclusions you could compare the information with? But you're suspicious cause I give reasons for not talking about my read on him when you give out reads for "feels"? ##Vote WaveOfShadow Vivax misses the point of Wave's pressure entirely and basically OMGUSes him.
So in short I would be fine with Vivax lynch as well today.
See this.
This is the problem I'm having.
We either have people who flat out ignore the case and don't read it, or people who say something along the lines of, 'yeah it was ok, but I have a stronger read,' or 'I'd rather lynch so-and-so' today.
No votes, no discussion.
The case is good.
Fucking good even, but for the people who still think Vivax is town, I haven't even gotten 'your case is bad and I still think Vivax is town and here's why.' It almost makes me feel better about Vivax is scum---just so much hidden resistance to something staring me blindly in the face.
This thing of suki's is the closest I've gotten but it just feels like a let-down at this point. It's all just +1...I don't know what I expected but still....ugh.
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That's a really bad town read
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On February 27 2014 14:48 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 14:45 suki wrote:
Cav who do you find scummy? Let's see a vote. I've already voted TheChyz once, but I unvoted because my townread on rayn is pretty strong and I'd be willing to follow him. My current scumread is TheChyz, but geript is being weird as fuck and I can't really read him.
What? By your logic you should be voting me then because rayn is voting me.
Also is that geript is being weird as fuck I think he's scummy but I can't read him, or geript is being weird as fuck I have no conclusion on him?
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No Wave, I think you're wrong. I think the atmosphere and stuff makes me think there's a scum lots of people think is town. Doesn't feel like there's any scum scramble right now.
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On February 27 2014 14:55 geript wrote:
That's a really bad town read
And so? What's your point?
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On February 27 2014 14:58 suki wrote:And so? What's your point?
Like it's super scummy but you have a freebie pass... You should be thanking me.
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geript all you seem to be doing around JarJar is saying you find him scummy with no explanation, and then pressuring people to post why they think he's townie.
I want to know why you think he's scummy.
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