On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote: @moc Anything you want to discuss?
Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released.
As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play.
Red Herring or something to keep note of?
Well this is a bad post.
Are you going to tell me now that all our IRC conversations about Toad were lies?
In my opinion, if you are town, and you dont respect a players ability as town you tend to avoid reading their alignment (e.g. Slam)
Early game you are chasing ppl you feel confident about reading that can help you.
Frankly, the reason I asked your opinion on wave was because I thought we could be useful together if you are town since we just played scum together. Given that decision I took, it is indeed odd to me you did the same but with Toad.
In case anyone wonders because I've been mostly spending my time on geript and didn't get to explain more in detail. The above is one of the main reasons I don't like mocsta atm.
This post makes very little sense from a town PoV imo. Okay I get that Rayn doesn't respect my townplay and I would have guessed so. Now I don't know what those irc talks are about but telling him to ignore me is just bullshit. Rayn doesn't respect my townplay, no shit sherlock, if he did he'd be voting geript right now... But not respecting my townplay doesn't mean he should just toss me in a corner and not try to read me. That's one of the most anti-town idea's I've ever read.
I can actually say the feeling's quite mutual and I think rayn is aware of that. I am sure he knows I'm taking digs at him for being wrong A LOT in... I always forget the name... the parity cop game I already referenced. Still I do end up with a read on him and Mocsta isn't holding that against me.
The reason that's a yellow and not an orange in my sheet is because I have no idea what thse irc talks were like but anyways, don't like that sentiment.
On February 27 2014 09:03 Toadesstern wrote: yeah. I've got geript, Holy and Mocsta as red/orange/yellow in that order. If I ignore Holy for because of mysterious meta reasons the only people I'm left with are Ange and gumshoe as replacements. gumshoe technically speaking a green on my list but the weakest of them all. Ange still neutral for obvious reasons.
green: Toad does not respect my town play -> i often have crap reads in his opinion red: but he trusts my meta-read on Holyflare enough to ignore his scum suspect
These two don't go together very well.
well, there's an "if" in the red part and I still have him in my list. So it obviously shows that I'm not deleting him out of my list Also there's another reason I'd rather not want to share in here. Has something to do with your wording.
I'm not playing host-wifom. I don't understand why rayn thinks you're confirmed town for no reason and I think the fact that that's a thing makes you even more likely to be mafia.
On February 27 2014 23:06 Toadesstern wrote: I'm not playing host-wifom. I don't understand why rayn thinks you're confirmed town for no reason and I think the fact that that's a thing makes you even more likely to be mafia.
Toad, did you read the context of why I raised that point?
It was specifically relating to gumshoe saying he is aware of my mentality because we played scum together.
The sad thing is, this is very similar to your position (just opposite decision) with the miller claim (i.e. you would have gone after Rayn as scum) The fact that you are not dropping this, is highly indicative that you are town.
I have not. I read how rayn unvoted you +r reasoning and found that giant crap of bullshit, so I just read through the rest of thread real quick and brought it up. I'm going to check up on it again just now.
On February 27 2014 12:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fine, Mocsta is modconfirmed town, i have made my decision. If Mocsta is mafia this game is invalid. Thank you for ruining the game Mocsta. ##unvote
I'll look into other people tomorrow. Good night.
(it's really only 20 seconds)
So yeah I don't see a reason why I shouldn't be voting Mocsta or geript right now.
I'll look into vivax and suki like I said yesterday but all this came up first and I'm out with my dog now... sooo see you in 2 hours or so.
If you don't want to vote Mocsta for whatever a bullshit reason you might have, I'd be very much delighted to get geript lynched instead rayn.
On February 28 2014 00:18 Vivax wrote: I don't get it Toad (that video and what it has to do with me, but funny nontheless). Besides, do you understand the rayn thingy? I still don't comprehend how Mocsta is supposed to be modconfirmed.
I am actually considering him to be confirmed mafia because of it and rayn is being wrong on it.
On February 28 2014 00:18 Mocsta wrote: Toad, Why are you fixated on getting the support of Rayn.
Everytime you keep raising this issue (that everyone else has said is not an issue) you bring up Rayn.
This is growing tiresome.
Rayn and WoS are the two people I have the biggest townreads on, so yeah I tend to try and convince them more than other people. Rayn happened to be around, WoS not really, timezones are a bitch.
On February 28 2014 00:20 Holyflare wrote: toad... what....? how have i now dropped off your list
read my posts. I told you yesterday I'm not reading you for todays lynched and I'm on either geript of Mocsta so yeah, hasn't really changed.
On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote: Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer?
What I don't like about this post is that he can't simply say what he thinks about suki, but feels like has to put a Mocsta townread in front of it.
That reads to me like he feels pressured to overjustify for picking a side in the debate, which is something I could see scum doing in a town vs. town argument, after all you're always painfully aware that what you say just isn't right, so you need to create a story. And this looks like a story, the story of how you think suki could be scum ONLY after thinking that mocsta is town, which is something I don't see townies do at D1.
Explanation: Gumshoe feels that he can't attack suki without supporting Moc cause he thinks that he would look like his lacking suspicion of Mocsta was unjustified. Like, in a hypothetical town vs town argument as scum you would think that you can't attack one townie without clearing the other.
Moreover you can see that the part about Mocsta could be construed (in best-case scenario, ie gum town) as a justification for sheeping him ("but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit"), but gumshoe doesn't exactly use Mocsta's arguments (tryhard looking posts, "why-not-vote-for-me-question") and brings his own, which strengthens the overjustification version of events.
The last bit with the nostalgia is either overanalyzing (if town) or making stuff up (if scum), so I think it should be disregarded entirely for now (@ geript).
Nitpicking from this case is strictly forbidden, either you address all points and give a conclusive opinion or your remarks will be ignored.
Vivax's opening post (not counting the geript townseal horseshit). Initially when I looked at this I thought it was worth some town points given that he can come up with a narrative on gumshoe that made a good deal of sense and was from a POV I nor anyone else in the thread had considered thus far. I was wrong about this as Rayn showed me---JJD essentially mentioned it earlier, though obviously not nearly this fleshed-out. It's actually not too bad except for two things. The first being the bolded section: gumshoe 'overjustifies' by giving reasons for sheeping Mocsta and trying to bring his own opinion to someone else's case/scumread. Townies do this all the friggin' time, and I see no reason why this is scum-indicative alone. If town doesn't want to sheep for no reason then gumshoe is doing the right thing AND providing his own reasons for agreeing with Mocsta. The second problem with this was brought up before: why now?
Vivax finally explains here after being endlessly prodded:
No, I didn't read all of it at that point. I just found that post scummy and wrote the points right off the bat.
Now there is nothing wrong with that on its own but Vivax shows here that he has none of the townie desire to 'get to the bottom of things' and figure out what gumshoe's alignment truly is. I find the post 'interesting' as I mentioned earlier and he posts this:
Interesting perspective isn't an opinion, Wave. And showing past posts that give you the impression that somebody could be scum is the essence of this game. How does gum having already been discussed affect the points brought up? it's completely irrelevant.
How is the fact that there was a MASSIVE discussion around determining gumshoe's alignment irrelevant if that is the purpose of posting a case on him in the first place? Like that's basic scumhunting 101---find scum. Vivax posts a case and just asks for comments, he doesn't actually seem to be interested in figuring out gumshoe at all. + Show Spoiler +
(BAD ASSOCIATION READ - never mind the fact that an obvious answer as to why he brought up gumshoe is as scum he doesn't want a town mislynch of gumshoe off the table, but that's weak. Just something to consider)
On February 27 2014 02:53 Vivax wrote: Jeez why couldn't I roll scum in this game. You guys are all so busy with fighting each other in such an unproductive way, and nobody called me out for not doing anything since I posted those points on gumshoe
Oh well back to lurking.
I mentioned this post earlier and immediately I got the willies. Shitting on thread atmosphere when basically everyone in here has been (apparently) earnestly trying in one form or another to do some determination, and Vivax has the nerve to come in here after doing dick all and call out others. Also important to note is the preemptive lurker call. This is scum mindset right here: call myself out for something real easy so nobody else has the chance to do so. And hey, if anyone brings this up, I can always say: "Well why as scum would I draw attention to myself in that way?" There are many scum who have no issues drawing attention to themselves, me included. Vivax doesn't strike me as being afraid of the spotlight. It sounds WIFOMy but it absolutely isn't. It shows clear scum guilt and a scum mindset. Town has absolutely no reason to post this.
On February 27 2014 04:28 Vivax wrote: I thought we were supposed to gather information for town, not just for ourselves. Hence it matters to everyone why you ask questions that seem to lead to nowhere except for shitting up the thread with information that nobody can use productively cause the answers you request are mostly nobrainers, like the next one:
Gumshoe has my points to comment on, he can explain why he felt like he had to townread one and scumread the other, and why he calls suki scummy, then asks which circumstance is the correct explanation for her behavior in the case that she's town (which looks like he's offering her an out, taking away pressure from her).
He basically gave her two possible explanations for her behaviour to pick from that don't picture her as scummy, and that after mentioning points that point to him thinking the opposite.
On February 27 2014 04:27 JarJarDrinks wrote: vivax, how do you feel about Chyz or the people voting him? I find it odd that you haven't mentioned him despite the fact that he's got 4 votes on him right now.
I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned.
I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause:
1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious.
Vivax puts a lot of effort into making a case that calls me hypocritical and yet does similar things himself. He calls out gumshow for not gathering info for town and yet town wants his Chyz read,which he refuses to offer.
On February 27 2014 08:21 Vivax wrote: Imagine you're scum and a townie defends you thinking you're town.
Imagine you're town and a townie defends you when you're not really at acute danger
Imagine you're town and a scum defends you.
All alternatives aren't really attractive except for the scum party involved, except when you're at realistic danger of being lynched, which you weren't.
Shouting your townreads out loud without need only helps scum in picking their targets, for the nightkill and for lynches. They will know who they can push safely without facing resistance and who they have to NK.
Besides, town shouldn't spend time circlejerking around why somebody is town in such situations, but why somebody is scum. Of course it's situational, and in your case I didn't feel the need to redeem you from anything to find scum. I simply didn't find you scummy like others did, and that's all town needs to know.
But I disagree with this, and apparently so does Rayn. I find absolutely no reasoning why you can't provide a townread, ESPECIALLY when providing said townread allows people to get a read of YOU. It has NOTHING to do with town circlejerking around each other's reads, this post makes it simply seem like you're avoiding giving the Chyz read above because it's bullshit and you don't want people reading you because of it.
Vivax's points also reek of someone who is trying to come up with justification as he goes along:
On February 27 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Fucking school internet Vivax difference between you and me is I haven't looked into chyz yet but I want to, as it is relevant to thread interest right now. I don't take a stance on him yet because it doesn't make sense for me to have one before reading. You give a read based on.....? And then refuse to elaborate further.
Those two things are most certainly not the same thing.
Can you explain to me how you can find me suspicious for not-scumreading a guy you didn't even look into yet?
You want to hear reasons for him being something when you don't even know what he wrote? What would you do with these reasons when you didn't even reach any own conclusions you could compare the information with?
But you're suspicious cause I give reasons for not talking about my read on him when you give out reads for "feels"?
##Vote WaveOfShadow
Already commented on this---uses 'feels' to try to make me look bad even though whether 'feels' are ACTUALLY bad or not doesn't matter worth a damn to me and people who have played with me since I started using them know that. Has absolutely nothing to do with the main set of points he tries to use against me---the perceived hypocrisy which in fact, ISN'T.
On February 27 2014 06:49 Vivax wrote: After rereading GSL IV I gotta say that I find gumshoe a lot less scummy. Basically all he has been doing in that game was justifying for people he could lynch, summarizing stuff and defending himself.
Here he actively participates in discussions, and I'm confident in stating that the post tone is a lot different.
Doesn't change where I stand with WoS though. Multiple of his actions don't make sense from a town point of view, him abandoning the gumshoe vote so quickly, suspecting me for not commenting on a player he doesn't know anything about, the not delivered look at a gumshoe scumgame he promised.
He neglects to mention this last point in that case full of effort I linked above, why just drop it here? Oh I know, just looking for more random crap to paint me in a scummy light, despite the fact that (as I already explained) I did in fact read the gumshoe scumgame and it was part of what very obviously led me to be very unsure of gumshoe's alignment as he is hyper-aware of his own meta.
More 'justification trying' below: Complains about gumshoe sheeping weakly while adding a random point for overjustification earlier...well what do you know! Look here!
On February 27 2014 07:31 Vivax wrote: I'll sheep ya, Rayn. I want to add a few points though.
Filterskim reveals a very passive Mocsta, no cases on people he believes to be scum since he has been put into the defensive.
What I also don't understand is how he townreads WoS out of nowhere. He looked scummy to you, he looks scummy to me, and for him it's the strongest townread, and then he asks a question like this, which shouldn't interest him in the slightest if he's town imo:
On February 27 2014 01:30 Mocsta wrote:
On February 27 2014 01:28 geript wrote: Toadescum. Idgaf what you think or ever thought about claiming miller. It's trolly regardless and I wish Palmar were here to help lynch you.
Where do you stand with Wave currently?
##Unvote ##Vote Mocsta
Putting WoS on the backfire for now. Mocsta is a more solid (and likely) lynch.
'FIlterskim-' yeah that basically sums up Vivax's efforts this game. Association reads Mocsta based on his random-ass townread of me and takes a basically inane question and calls it scummy. Bingo, good enough to sheep Rayn!
TL;DR Vivax has a clear scum agenda throughout his posting. He has no desire to actually read through the filters of any of his scumspects (Mocsta, me, gumshoe), provides weak reads that are all then dropped---he cba to actually figure out the alignment of the people he talks about because he doesn't have to DO that as scum. When he does he comes up with his reads and what he wants to do FIRST and adds in weak justification points later---not the towny way, bro.
Vivax is obvscum to me at this point. A much stronger read than Mocsta (at least to me) and I believe he needs to be lynched.
No more ignoring the points I'm bringing up about Vivax, I expect people to read this and if they still find Vivax towny, I want to know WHY. If you're all still on Mocsta you can at the very least have a look at this before he comes back.
Okay I get some of this, some of it not so much.
Long story short would be: I like the part where WoS is essentially calling Vivax out for not putting in effort when he's doing anything and when he's calling him apologetic about his attitude. He didn't exactly call it that way but that's what it comes down to and especially in combination with the not putting effort that reeks of guilty feelings imo. The parts I don't like about this are those that I already mentioned in my filter or have to do with that, like that whole "I don't like giving out townreads" stuff, which seems plausable to come from Vivax as either alignment, so it's a null or slightly townish for me as it does put some spotlight on him. The one thing I like the most about the case is probably the "shitting on townatmosphere" thing and I really don't understand that at all. Same goes for suki and Cavalinho as my f5 skills seem to indicate.
So yeah I'd much rather lynch geript or Mocsta today. On to rereading that situation from earlier today.
On February 28 2014 02:31 Vivax wrote: Toad the town atmosphere thing was cause of your and geript's argument which was something that looked like it would lead to nowhere. I already explained this, and also tried to improve the situation as you already acknowledged.
yeah but I see no purpose at all for a post like this:
On February 27 2014 02:53 Vivax wrote: Jeez why couldn't I roll scum in this game. You guys are all so busy with fighting each other in such an unproductive way, and nobody called me out for not doing anything since I posted those points on gumshoe
Oh well back to lurking.
The other one had purpose when you were trying to calm me down and make me look into people other than geript. I liked the other one you did. This one really not at all.
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently... Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today. At some point it's just enough.
On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote: I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently... Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.
exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.
What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.
Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today. At some point it's just enough.
##unvote ##vote Geript
On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote: I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently... Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.
exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.
What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.
Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?
Also I don't back off of any read at all. Where in the world am I backing off anywhere there. I'm saying that I didn't do a case on Vivax. Next time I get here and lie about having done a case on Vivax, my bad...
In the midst of the tl mafia ban list crisis, I asked Geript on team speak "Geript, if tl mafia is incapable of changing to your liking, would you rather just see it all burn to the ground?" his response? "ABSOLUTELY". Having thought about it, I realize that Geript is entirely capable of this level of tunneling on toad for such shoddy reasoning, but as others have pointed out, he knows his own meta / : Geript is my Gumshoe T_T. Down grading to null. We should all just ignore his Toad case so hes forced to talk about other people.
We did for at least 24 hours . He choose to ignore his chance and is back at it, hence I am voting it. Now can you do the same as you promised and vote him with me because he claimed mafia?
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today. At some point it's just enough.
##unvote ##vote Geript
On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote: I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently... Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.
exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.
What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.
Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?
No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today. At some point it's just enough.
##unvote ##vote Geript
On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote: I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently... Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.
exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.
What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.
Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?
No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.
On February 27 2014 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:18 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cavalinho why are your posts so short and lack content unlike the last game?
Because I died immediately last game.
I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens.
I like this guy
Third time I caught you lying.
LYNCH IT
lol. That's not a read. That's not even close to a read. If you are town and think that's a read then you need to stop ever playing mafia because that would make you the dumbest person in history. Like a walrus, dolphin or orangutan could make a better mafia read.
you can't possible expect me to flash out a case on every single guy in the game on d1.
You're calling me mafia because I haven't explained EVERY SINGLE READ I HAVE and instead opted to explain the important ones...
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today. At some point it's just enough.
##unvote ##vote Geript
On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote: I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently... Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.
exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.
What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.
Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?
No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.
I just can't believe that this post could come from scum, get the fuck off of geript.
On February 27 2014 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: fucking shit geript has to be town. but please please don't be like thins geript. okay?
dude don't let take too stupid to be town as a towntell...
He's been omgus'ing me the entire day When he saw that's not working he started spouting lies And now that that's not working, you both got in the thread and told him to shut up he realized that's not working either and he's going for that...
It's like a tour around the block to see what works...
He's lying the entire game. Nothing he said's reasonable as has already been stated by EVERY SINGLE GUY IN THE GAME. There's literally not a single soul in here that things geript makes sense and he's been through all these "stages" of defending himself.
You're calling him too bad to be mafia. I don't take that as an excuse after seeing that he did all the other shit as an attempt to try to "defend" himself.
He hasn't even tried. He could have just done anything else, he could have come back and gone for someone else like he was clearly told to do. He ignored it and is still tunneling for bullshit reasons not because he's bad but because he has no other options. He's all-in because he's mafia
On February 28 2014 04:11 Vivax wrote: I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.
I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that.
The guy was given a chance to come back and proof himself. He threw it in the bucket, ignored it and kept doing what he was doing all game long ignoring everyone else.
On February 28 2014 05:57 Holyflare wrote: is geript not coming back before deadline?
He might but he's made it extremely clear that he's throwing his vote away now and for the foreseeable future (with some possible movement to suki or some shit?)
JJD: I'll read it, but I can't say I'm going to be supporting a gumshoe lynch at this time.
Vivax, you haven't answered my question. What is it you would say you've been doing for the past few hours?
I may open the floor to this question to other people. Maybe not Holy though.
reading your case on vivax, getting angry because of geript, re-reading that whole mocsta bullshit, getting angry again because of geript, putting my vote on geript because he keeps on spouting bullshit, openly claims he won't stop and you people tell me geript is town for being mighty emotional when it's clear that he has planned to play like that for the last 48hours because he WAS GIVEN the chance to cool down and threw it out of the window...
I really don't think I'll be able to bring myself to reading anything else tonight with all this shit going on, so if you want my vote on anyone else than geript / mocsta, make sure to explain it like I'm a 5 year old because I won't bother to filterdive.
On February 28 2014 06:30 Holyflare wrote: not gonna lie if i rolled scum this game i would have just quit
This is a big part of where my Moc read is coming from, I think he would have done similar.
I have no issue letting Vivax's claim play out tommorow, just dont think theres a point, would still love to lynch Suki.
how come you only mentioned this about mocsta though? It's been the same situation for all of HF, Mocsta and me. There was a lot of talk about it pre-game, yet you only felt the need to mention it about mocsta?
EPT
