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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 18:34 GMT
#2220
I made this exact case fwiw
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 20:32 GMT
#2234
On March 02 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
hes locked us into a death match and is not even considering that I'm town.
Pretty sure U'r the one who has us locked in a death match. I don't think I've ever called you 100% scum. But how else am I supposed to read you when you act like your completely sure that I scum? I just read your confidence exactly how it was in GSL.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 21:08 GMT
#2239
On March 02 2014 03:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I made this exact case fwiw


To summarize:


Chyz tells us in this next post that he will lynch suki. But in the next 2 posts he basically bullies Cav into switching his vote off her and on to Moc.

That and the fact that he didnt vote means he seemed to be lying about wanting to get suki lynched.


On February 28 2014 08:44 TheChyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 08:33 Vivax wrote:
Yeah well I'll give you the newbie benefit cause lynching people you don't find helpful is something you would like to do when you're new to the game.

However I don't like that you say you don't mind other people being lynched, since I would expect that you want the person lynched that you DO want to get lynched, and not anybody else you didn't really take a closer look at.

Or did you take a closer look at suki and Moc?

Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will








On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.

HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two.

And yet your vote is in suki.......?
On February 28 2014 08:56 TheChyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 08:55 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:
On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.

HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two.

And yet your vote is in suki.......?


Go reread. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you if you aren't diving my incredibly short filter.

##Unvote
##vote Mocsta

I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 21:12 GMT
#2240
On March 02 2014 05:58 Vivax wrote:
Conclusion after reading the stuff happening at deadline is that Cava and Chyz look equally bad.

Chyz for saying suki is a candidate for his vote, but not Moc and then doing jack to get that opinion through when the suki lynch was at danger.i

Cava for voting her while hard-defending her at the same time, cause his townreads voted her.

JarJar didn't do anything to influence what was happening at that point, but I'm not even sure if he was around at deadline. But he had a pretty strong townread on her and a scumread on Moc.

JJD have you been around @ deadline?

Anyway we lynch these three and we hit scum, no question. Basically what HF has been saying all the time, but I wouldn't be Vivax if I hadn't been trying to question even that.

Please replace Cav w/ gumshoe. Dont let gumshoe solo win this game.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 21:19 GMT
#2242
On March 02 2014 06:13 Vivax wrote:
Man you just posted points on Chyz that would make me lynch him in the blink of an eye and now you still say gumshoe is scum.

Wtf???

Just want to make sure gumshoe is on ur list if Chyz flips town and u lynch me.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 23:49 GMT
#2254
On March 02 2014 07:53 TheChyz wrote:
If I was scum then I had an easy chance to take an out. With votes on moc and suki as the majority I was given an out where I could have voted on moc instead of suki. Note this was just 15 minutes before the deadline. Do you guys really think that the person you have been calling noob all game would be able to bus onto their gf and hope to ride the game till the late game when I could have easily made some reason to lynch moc instead. No. I don't care if you think I'm scum because of things I did before since I have played pretty shit but the argument on me for the last few minutes before the lynch is complete and utter garbage.
That's like, the whole point.

There was 15 minutes left in the day. Suki had SIX people voting for her and Moc had THREE. @ that point of course ur gonna be all like "Yo suki is scum, I'd totes lynch her" But then when votes started switching and they were TIED in votes, you didn't try to make sure she got lynched like u said u would.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 01 2014 23:50 GMT
#2255
On March 02 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
I mean Jar, I need you to acknowledge that I just demolished your fake vt argument. I had clear reasons for everything I did N1, and I'm glad you gave me the chance to air them ( :
Why did you claim?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 07:05 GMT
#2265
On March 02 2014 08:43 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 02:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 01 2014 00:21 gumshoe wrote:
Oh and hes been absent since lynch as others have pointed out 0_o seriously guys, if Vax shoots me tonight Jar Jar better be bloody dead by night 3.
Oh really Vet?


Oh I missed this XD easy question to answer. Say Vivax does shoot me, then we get no mishots and we have too confirmed townies, I was just trying to bait his shot. I was also trying to imply that I was blue via my confidence that Vivax's shot wouldnt go off, in hopes scum would shoot me minus an rb.

To be honest, I really doubted VIvax's claim ) : I was vet, I thought there was a cop cause of the god father and 3 blues(one bieng vig, another dt) seems really op for 10/3. Basically getting shot was win win, just so long as I wasnt role blocked, which is why I couldnt just come out and say I was vet. With Vivax's shot gone, the rber dead, and scum basically trying to use me as thier endgame mislynch, there was no reason not to claim. So I did, because unless theres a reason not to I am always as transparent as possible when town.


On March 02 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 08:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 02 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
I mean Jar, I need you to acknowledge that I just demolished your fake vt argument. I had clear reasons for everything I did N1, and I'm glad you gave me the chance to air them ( :
Why did you claim?


Because there was no reason not to. Rb is dead, I know for a fact scum wont shoot me because they NEED me to get mislynched. If I can afford to be transparent I always will be.


you're contridicting yourself
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 07:11 GMT
#2266
And also, has anyone come up w/ better reason for vivax not getting roleblocked other than them wanting him to misfire on me?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 15:50 GMT
#2287
On March 03 2014 00:06 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 16:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 02 2014 08:43 gumshoe wrote:
On March 02 2014 02:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 01 2014 00:21 gumshoe wrote:
Oh and hes been absent since lynch as others have pointed out 0_o seriously guys, if Vax shoots me tonight Jar Jar better be bloody dead by night 3.
Oh really Vet?


Oh I missed this XD easy question to answer. Say Vivax does shoot me, then we get no mishots and we have too confirmed townies, I was just trying to bait his shot. I was also trying to imply that I was blue via my confidence that Vivax's shot wouldnt go off, in hopes scum would shoot me minus an rb.

To be honest, I really doubted VIvax's claim ) : I was vet, I thought there was a cop cause of the god father and 3 blues(one bieng vig, another dt) seems really op for 10/3. Basically getting shot was win win, just so long as I wasnt role blocked, which is why I couldnt just come out and say I was vet. With Vivax's shot gone, the rber dead, and scum basically trying to use me as thier endgame mislynch, there was no reason not to claim. So I did, because unless theres a reason not to I am always as transparent as possible when town.


On March 02 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:
On March 02 2014 08:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 02 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
I mean Jar, I need you to acknowledge that I just demolished your fake vt argument. I had clear reasons for everything I did N1, and I'm glad you gave me the chance to air them ( :
Why did you claim?


Because there was no reason not to. Rb is dead, I know for a fact scum wont shoot me because they NEED me to get mislynched. If I can afford to be transparent I always will be.


you're contridicting yourself


NOW they won't shoot me, I was trying to crumb blue night one by implying I knew Vivax wasn't vig( via knowledge of my own role) at the same time I wouldn't mind getting shot by Vivax cause double confirmed. That's why I didn't claim night 1. but because rayn was shot, it implies they're trying to make me look bad and need me to get a mislynch, and vigs shot is gone so my bullet ain't coming from there either.

I would not reveal my role if I was not confident that it would have more use as a claim then as a power. like how rayn revealed parity cop d1 in a game we recently played because the likelihood of it getting as much value as the claim itself was minimal.Oh and your nitpicking shit that doesn't matter again cause "look guys, an inconsistency this guy has to be scum!"
What do you mean NOW they wont shoot you? Why would they have shot you last light but not tonight?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:07 GMT
#2292
On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote:
Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not.

If you believe that vivax might have shot you then don't you think he would have been roleblocked if I was scum? Cause if you get shot, I'm obviously the next lynch.

I still haven't seen one good reason why they let the vig shoot that could possibly mean I'm scum.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:09 GMT
#2293
On March 03 2014 01:05 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote:
Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not.


I think both of us are town and JJD is just trying to push us to lynch each other.

How the F am I trying to push anyone to lynch you. I haven't called you scum @ all. I even told vivax to remove you off his lynch list.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:12 GMT
#2294
I think it's dumb to think you're scum for the same reason it's dumb to think I am. I can't image an entire scum team piling their votes up together. I think there's either 1 bus on the suki wagon or Chyz is scum cause of reasons already stated.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:26 GMT
#2298
On March 03 2014 01:19 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote:
Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not.

If you believe that vivax might have shot you then don't you think he would have been roleblocked if I was scum? Cause if you get shot, I'm obviously the next lynch.

I still haven't seen one good reason why they let the vig shoot that could possibly mean I'm scum.


What 0_o What does my alignment have to do with yours? Jar Jar, we could both be town, it's possible, I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before (see basterd mafia.). The fact that you honestly bilieve that one of us HAS to be scum is revealing. Besides, you were likely to get lynched today anyways XD you dont need my flip for that.

Also, are you actually fighting my honest motivation with your hypothetical scum one? I thought you were desperate before but this takes the cake. As for the vig shot, it's simple, when your in a bad spot, you have to take a risk to win, scum NEEDED that shot to hit a townie, it didn't, end of story.

WHAT!???? where am I implying that one of us has to be scum?

You're the one who called me "100% scum"

You're the one who said "If JJD flips green, lynch me next" /paraphrasing

You're the one who refused to talk to me because you don't talk to scum"


Please explain how I went from 100% scum where you say to lynch you if you're wrong to "I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before "

JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:32 GMT
#2301
Gumshoe next after me ange please.


Just everyone voting me promise to to reread gumshoe after my flip.

ANd listen to rayn:
On February 28 2014 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is scary. Like really scary and i would keep an eye on him. He's like scum kushm4sta way of right. It's like he is too right in calling JJD and suki scum together. I read pages 74-76 and my impression of gumshoe is "what the fucking hell, is this post-flip already??". Really, if you don't believe me read it. Either he is playing a towngame of his life and is just really right or he is too right and scum. Anyways would not lynch but instead listen to unless something really strange happens.

Especially the part where rayn notes that gumshoe is already setting me up as sukis scumbuddy before the flip.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:36 GMT
#2306
On March 03 2014 01:32 gumshoe wrote:
The reason I've been wavering is because cav looks pretty bad as well, toads dt read on him could have only been a green read, because a red read doesnt help him win the game. Its possible your town and hes scum, but I still think your my man XD
This guy knows exactly what I'm gonna flip and is setting up the next mislynch. Reread posts like this after u all know my alignment.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:37 GMT
#2307
On March 03 2014 01:34 gumshoe wrote:
You see, town feel fine changing their reads and adapting, because they are interested in winning the game, not looking townie. It's scum who cant back down, which is why you held onto your Chyz read even though at that point it made no sense.
YOU MADE A WHOLE CASE AGAINST ME BASED ON THE FACT THAT I KEPT CHANGING MY READS AND ADAPTING!!
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:39 GMT
#2309
On March 03 2014 01:35 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Gumshoe next after me ange please.


Just everyone voting me promise to to reread gumshoe after my flip.

ANd listen to rayn:
On February 28 2014 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is scary. Like really scary and i would keep an eye on him. He's like scum kushm4sta way of right. It's like he is too right in calling JJD and suki scum together. I read pages 74-76 and my impression of gumshoe is "what the fucking hell, is this post-flip already??". Really, if you don't believe me read it. Either he is playing a towngame of his life and is just really right or he is too right and scum. Anyways would not lynch but instead listen to unless something really strange happens.

Especially the part where rayn notes that gumshoe is already setting me up as sukis scumbuddy before the flip.


WHY WOULD I SHOOT RAYN THEN. Good god Jar Jar T_T if your town your so bad at this game.

Huh? Why would you shoot someone who is getting suspicious of you and is capable of leading the town against you?

Is this a real fucking question?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 16:48 GMT
#2313
On March 03 2014 01:44 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:35 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Gumshoe next after me ange please.


Just everyone voting me promise to to reread gumshoe after my flip.

ANd listen to rayn:
On February 28 2014 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is scary. Like really scary and i would keep an eye on him. He's like scum kushm4sta way of right. It's like he is too right in calling JJD and suki scum together. I read pages 74-76 and my impression of gumshoe is "what the fucking hell, is this post-flip already??". Really, if you don't believe me read it. Either he is playing a towngame of his life and is just really right or he is too right and scum. Anyways would not lynch but instead listen to unless something really strange happens.

Especially the part where rayn notes that gumshoe is already setting me up as sukis scumbuddy before the flip.


WHY WOULD I SHOOT RAYN THEN. Good god Jar Jar T_T if your town your so bad at this game.

Huh? Why would you shoot someone who is getting suspicious of you and is capable of leading the town against you?

Is this a real fucking question?


Because that fucking frames me, you leave the people who are accusing you alive to imply their scum. You yourself said my death would make you look bad T_T
Rayn wasn't Fn scum cmon. And really it frames you? How's that working out? How many votes do you have?

Rayn wasn't screaming to high heavens that you were scum. He was just starting to suspect you.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 02 2014 17:01 GMT
#2320
On March 03 2014 01:43 gumshoe wrote:
I dont think my reads are infalible
Whaaa....? What about Moc? And Me? And Suki?

Did you forget your persona this game and think you were town for a second?
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